Floatyworm
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But it's true....in before the dak sucks it dont matter comments.
But it's true....in before the dak sucks it dont matter comments.
Good grief, the Op asked about the FA class, ALL I was saying is that Cook and Gilmore arent 'Technically' Free Agent additions. Do I like that they were added? Yes I do, I also like most of the additions this year with the exception of LVE. Next time you call someone a complainer maybe pull your head out of whatever dark location it might be and actually read what they are sayingbecause we feel like it .. why not? you do you realize we have been a winning team for a while, been to the playoffs 4 of the 6 seasons daks been healthy, daks top 5 in wins since 2016, having to add very little to stay at the level of b2b 12-win seasons. A Minor retool is all team that been winning is far different from teams that haven't made the playoff's, won division, or had an above 500 season is a decade or more lit the jets .far more moves are needed. Even Washington , they finished last and making more moves then most of their division. umm of course they are.. they finished last.
we are Better today right now then we were last year going into the season In most opinions.
think is it better to have,
at wr- Lamb first time #1 with Brown at 2 LOL Tolbert at 3 LOL or now Lamb year 2 #1, Gallup healthy, Cooks, and then the rest added later.
At OL- Tyler rookie LT -McGovern forst time L:G starter-and Streele first time RT starter NOW Tyker is now expereinced-New LG- TB at center seems to be vastly improved-Martin-Steele now comfortable at rt
RB- Zeke gone pollard taking over 1 with jones, malik, and Dowdle plus the draft, so younger and faster at rb
NEW OC OLC and MM calling plays.
that why we consider these moves an improvement and very good and we are 4 weeks into the offseason with 6months to go..
does that do not resonate with most of you complainers? Weve been winning and have chance to farther improve.
2019 Garret and the team melts down the back end of the season, he gets fired.9-8
MM hired 2020- c19 lost horrific amounts of Players to injuries; Dak and the OL =lost season, Nolan fired
2021 Quinn hired rebuilt defense, won the division 6-0 in the divisions 12-5 and a playoff berth
2022 12-5 2nd round of playoff's, wasnt happy fired Moore and a lot of other staff people, moved on from zeke, McGovern, maher, gifford and Brown added better players already with more coming
seems to me we are improving under MM and they are still making changes, havent been as complacent with players and staff
Good grief, the Op asked about the FA class, ALL I was saying is that Cook and Gilmore arent 'Technically' Free Agent additions. Do I like that they were added? Yes I do, I also like most of the additions this year with the exception of LVE. Next time you call someone a complainer maybe pull your head out of whatever dark location it might be and actually read what they are saying
most here understand the difference between a FA and a Trade but its still was his intent meaning grade the off season moves ..i stand by my last statement, your reply meant to be a complaint "they do what they always do" meaning not getting big enough names, expensive FA Fans covet...
they all wanted Wagner, Ramseys, Dhop, and a big DT with a prominent name. none were signed, so many are upset. Your reply Implied that for sure. that's what i call a a passive aggressive way of complaining lol
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last offseason, all we heard was it was a historically bad offseason, and they went 12-5 and the 2nd round
now its we are over selling how good its been..now im worried LOL
B+. I think they got very good value in the trades. Gilmore should give us a good season for a 5th and is someone younger CB's can emulate. Cooks should give us a good two years for a 5th and 6th. The Wilson contract was good value. He'll finish it. Im neutral on LVE.I was expecting 1 big WR in either fa or the trade market, thought OBJ was the favorite. Wanted both Hankins, Robinson to fortify the NT position and thought they would either resign Lve or sign Bobby Wagner.
What they did:
-Did add a veteran receiver via the trade market in Cooks, but were also able to restructure his deal.
-Lve was resigned, but surprisingly they also were able to keep Donovan Wilson
-Probably the biggest surprise was them adding a legitimate #2 corner in Gilmore
-Just did resign Hankins back, but it doesn't appear Robinson is in play, rather they are going to bring back Watkins
-Cooper Rush was also an important resigning.
-They were able to restructure Tyron Smith Contract based on his availability.
-Smartly they decided to move on from Zeke all together
-Nobody likes to see the tag used for a running back
-Did lose Shultz, McGovern, Brown
-Failed to find a kicker
Have to give the front office an A- grade. They were able to retain their key defensive role players, added a legitimate #2 WR/CB and made some good decisions about veteran contracts. All this and they still have room to do even more, along with Zeke's money coming in June.
My only issue, is I rather them adding more at NT then just Hankins.B+. I think they got very good value in the trades. Gilmore should give us a good season for a 5th and is someone younger CB's can emulate. Cooks should give us a good two years for a 5th and 6th. The Wilson contract was good value. He'll finish it. Im neutral on LVE.
I thought they should have done more in FA, even if they used trades instead. Thats why I dont give it an A.
They have mentioned the draft when speaking about adding DT's for the run defense. I dont see that happening in the first two rounds, but round 3 could be a possibility if Benton is thereMy only issue, is I rather them adding more at NT then just Hankins.
You saw that Hankins contract, I'm a doubter outside of day 3. Benton is also one of my favorites, but I need to see it to believe it!They have mentioned the draft when speaking about adding DT's for the run defense. I dont see that happening in the first two rounds, but round 3 could be a possibility if Benton is there
but you still replied.,.Irony.. this place is time wasting venture at best. you will fit in fine.. check the ego, its unbecoming..That mind-reading ability would come in handy if you actually know what you were talking about. I've wasted enough time on you
that's why fans cant be GMS we got 3 for one all whom were and will continue to be important to our team,. I grade that last bullet point an FCombined I'd give it an A- Well above what we usually have done (although recent years haven't been terrible). If it's me I would have signed:
- Dalvin Tomlinson (14.25m to Cleveland)
- Bobby Wagner (7m to Seatle) instead of LVE
- If required I would have sacrificed any (or all) of Wilson, Fowler, and Ronald Jones to fit Tomlinson.
this sounds about how i'd see things. they didn't get the big name splash some people measure success by, but they filled needs with quality in their needed roles, kept our backup qb who proved they're certainly worth keeping, and letting zeke go i also think was a solid move.I was expecting 1 big WR in either fa or the trade market, thought OBJ was the favorite. Wanted both Hankins, Robinson to fortify the NT position and thought they would either resign Lve or sign Bobby Wagner.
What they did:
-Did add a veteran receiver via the trade market in Cooks, but were also able to restructure his deal.
-Lve was resigned, but surprisingly they also were able to keep Donovan Wilson
-Probably the biggest surprise was them adding a legitimate #2 corner in Gilmore
-Just did resign Hankins back, but it doesn't appear Robinson is in play, rather they are going to bring back Watkins
-Cooper Rush was also an important resigning.
-They were able to restructure Tyron Smith Contract based on his availability.
-Smartly they decided to move on from Zeke all together
-Nobody likes to see the tag used for a running back
-Did lose Shultz, McGovern, Brown
-Failed to find a kicker
Have to give the front office an A- grade. They were able to retain their key defensive role players, added a legitimate #2 WR/CB and made some good decisions about veteran contracts. All this and they still have room to do even more, along with Zeke's money coming in June.
umm fowler as the 3rd choice 30% of the snaps put up Gregory numbers atn3M hes a steal.. depth is very important and rotational guys keep the rest fresh and cover us for injury insurance, Armstrong, tank and Fowler not much difference so they cover each other well..then add Parsons and Sam and that what we need... Yes, Wagner is better then LVE but guaranteed hes not coming here for 7mil that hometown finish up my career as a Seahawk deal.. he would ahve wanted 11 here like the rams gave him. they went with younger and less expensive.In terms of all the off-season moves
A+
- Stephon Gilmore: He's a huge upgrade that gives us arguably the best secondary in the league. A fantastic deal
- Brandon Cooks: He fills a massive hole and has a lot of traits missing in our receiver room. The price was great
B:
- Donavan Wilson: In a vacuum, it's an A but I've dinged it a little on resource allocation grounds. It's great to add a playmaker but with Kearse/Hooker and playing Mukuamu more there were other areas we could have spent the money.
- Tony Pollard: The key player on our offense last season that we couldn't afford to lose. We simply couldn't afford to lose him but the price is a little high relative to the market.
- Jonathan Hankins: We had to address the run game so this was a critical signing. It was the floor of what needed to be done. I would have liked someone closer to the ceiling.
- Chuma Edoga: It looks like a good deal for a versatile backup
C
- Leighton Vander Esch: We get our leader back who played solidly. Bobby Wagner hands down would have been the guy I signed and it would have been a B if that wasn't an option. The neck still scares me.
- Dante Fowler: He had solid production last year and he's a bargain price. I just think 3m spent on a 4th choice DE is a bit of a waste
- Cooper Rush: It's good to have a backup QB that has won games. 2m is another solid deal
- Ronald Jones: It gives us coverage at the position. It's not a move I would have done but I don't hate having insurance
- Rico Dowdle: The price is right and it adds competition. He played a similar role to Noah Brown on special teams so may have a road in that way
- CJ Goodwin: A good special teams
- Trent Sieg: No idea
Combined I'd give it an A- Well above what we usually have done (although recent years haven't been terrible). If it's me I would have signed:
- Dalvin Tomlinson (14.25m to Cleveland)
- Bobby Wagner (7m to Seatle) instead of LVE
- If required I would have sacrificed any (or all) of Wilson, Fowler, and Ronald Jones to fit Tomlinson.
I wonder if they are done, have space and more coming after June 1stthis sounds about how i'd see things. they didn't get the big name splash some people measure success by, but they filled needs with quality in their needed roles, kept our backup qb who proved they're certainly worth keeping, and letting zeke go i also think was a solid move.
i loved schulz but we seem to find TE's easily enough.
failing to find a kicker doesn't bother me much. ours did just fine except for one game. im all for bringing competition into camp but im also all for letting him show it was a freak accident / head game he lost. im not ready to write him off yet.
like most teams, im sure we'll be looking over cuts to see if we can improve in any given area.I wonder if they are done, have space and more coming after June 1st
Bland, Diggs, Gilmore gives you a very good (dare I say great) cornerback grouping. Jourdan Lewis will be back and is a good #4. Izzy Mukuamu was starting to flash at the end of last season and figures to slot in as your 5th CB.Defense still 1 good DT away in my opinion, also need another high-end corner as both Joseph/Wright fails last yr when given the opportunity.