jcraw11 said:
The thing that i did not understand about Carter's critiques is that even though he showed improvement each year with the cowboys, people never accepted him as a young qb prospect. Maybe it was his speech problem or precieved lack of smarts but it seems he was always viewed as a dumb mobile quarterback who could not read the field and needed the offense to be facilitated to his mental ablility . I see other players like Harrington or Ramsey continually revcieve the benefit of the doubt without showing the improvement carter showed. I dont know it was a racial thing, but it just seems even before the drug issues he was never accepted or rooted for like most other young qbs around the league.
I wasn't going to respond in this thread any more, but your post changed my mind.
Was there racism? Yes, for some fans I am sure there was. I am also sure it went both ways.
Simple question, does that mean all fans who disliked his game are guilty of that nonsense? Does it mean all fans who rooted for him did so only because of his skin color? I find this kind of labeling of others to be dangerous, and I find it to be insulting. In saying this I am not accusing you of it. I just want to emphasize that denying it existed in some is silly, but assuming it was a sweeping thing that encompassed everyone is truly outrageous.
I was never a fan of his at Georgia. In fact, I did not want to draft him and when we did I was sick. I think he makes too many poor decisions to ever be an elite QB. In turns out he was making them off the field as well as on it.
I got labeled a "hater" for stating my opinion that he was not very good. Because I stood by my opinion some guys started to hate me and it is still very personal with them to this day. I'll be honest, I don't understand that. I am never going to look at you, or anyone else, and decide to hate you over your opinions.
In one thread on this QB I complimented him on his work ethic and said I appreciated his character. In fact I went so far as to say I hoped my daughters dated young men with morals like him. Obviously at the time I had no idea about his drug use or I wouldn't have said that. In that same thread I never backed off my opinion that he simply wasn't very good. One poster who has replied several times in this thread openly accused me of being a racist. The good things I said about him were completely ignored.
That kind of hysteria is why this particular player is so hated. It has nothing to do with the man himself. He is hated because of his most ardent fans who made it very personal. There is not a doubt in my mind that many fans rooted for Hutch just so the Q fans would go nuts. I've never seen anything like it. Well, at least not until our current Henson vs. Romo nonsense.
The fan base is still divided but suddenly race isn't the issue. That's my whole point. It never should have been an issue because the people who post here for the most part deserve the benefit of the doubt and they never got it.
I have never seen a situation more unreal than the QB wars on Cowboys sites. If it had been over players who were great it would have been fun. I'm sorry, they weren't great.
My initial reaction and post in this thread was to lambast the fact that this hatred of fellow fans still exists over 2 guys who don't even play here any more. Saying that either side should apologize for having liked a player is just stupid in my opinion. That kind of chest thumping arrogance is insulting and will do nothing but stir up more hatred. Anyone who thinks it will cow the other side is out of their freaking mind.
I liked Jamar Martin and couldn't stand Darian Barnes. We kept Barnes and waived Martin. Should I apologize for that? No, I should be allowed my right to an opinion.
There have been 300 Henson/Romo threads without me replying to anyone of them. He brings out a comparison between their dropbacks and now I'm a basher, go figure! Are you still there my lord?
