Chocolate Lab
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Funny how after all this horrible "regression" talk I see so often, if we win this weekend we'll have won as many games as Parcells ever did in a season.
Chocolate Lab;2522747 said:Funny how after all this horrible "regression" talk I see so often, if we win this weekend we'll have won as many games as Parcells ever did in a season.
theogt;2521912 said:I don't think there's a more overrated coach in the NFL than Bill Cowher.
wileedog;2522750 said:Which again is an irrelevant argument considering Parcells inherited a 5-11 cluster and Wade inherited a completely rebuilt organization, top to bottom.
Parcells didn't even have a quality starting QB until his last half season here. Wade started with a Pro Bowler. How'd he do the 3 games Tony was out?
wileedog;2522750 said:Which again is an irrelevant argument considering Parcells inherited a 5-11 cluster and Wade inherited a completely rebuilt organization, top to bottom.
Parcells didn't even have a quality starting QB until his last half season here. Wade started with a Pro Bowler. How'd he do the 3 games Tony was out?
CATCH17;2521757 said:Holmgren is the only big name that may ever be realistic and with him u have to inherit the WCO
And we have evidence of 2 offseasons of Jerry adding a large amount of talent without Parcells. Maybe he learned something from Parcells. Maybe not. Maybe he just learned his lessons from the late 90s. Maybe not. Nobody will ever know.wileedog;2522744 said:We have a decade of evidence that Jerry wasn't 'learning' anything.
And yes, he could have hired someone else, the point isn't really about Parcells. Its about Jerry giving up real control to someone with real football knowledge. It could have been any number of people who walked in and turned this around, it happened to be Parcells.
The problem is, we are moving back in the other direction. Jerry is back to assembling stars, not a team. He's got a wishy washy head coach back whose authority he undermines by letting players go over him. He's back to creating media attention instead of winning football games.
My only ray of hope is he seems to be doing a little better with the draft than the last time around, although we still can't find an O-lineman to save our butts (Parcells time included too).
Chocolate Lab;2522754 said:Yes, we all know that Chainsaw Al Parcells improved us from 5-11.
You still didn't didn't explain how winning as many games as the last coach ever did counts as "regression". Not to mention winning more than he ever did last year.
CATCH17;2522757 said:Bledsoe was a quality QB.
theogt;2522804 said:LOL @ spinning the defense actually playing well as a negative for Wade.
Wily dog, indeed.
dbair1967;2522777 said:how'd that defense do under that great defensive mind Parcells?
Parcells the GM did a good job here, Parcells the coach was a liability.
Stewart is the DC now right? The defense is playing well right now, right? Stewart is significantly involved in coaching, gameplanning, teaching the defense, right?wileedog;2522810 said:Who picked the DC that couldn't get them to play?
That's part of a Head Coaches job you know.
To me its evidence what everyone says - Wade is a good DC, not a HC.
theogt;2522839 said:Stewart is the DC now right? The defense is playing well right now, right? Stewart is significantly involved in coaching, gameplanning, teaching the defense, right?
If Wade is here, Stewart is here. Stewart is part of this winning formula, whatever his role is. Firing guys even when their unit is performing well is pretty stupid. But hey, if the shoe fits.wileedog;2522849 said:I don't know, is he? Because they sure stunk before Wade got "more involved". Do we know all Wade has done has taken over play-calling, or is he doing a lot more of these things too? My guess is the latter, defensive play calling doesn't account for everything.
And by that logic Wade is also then responsible for the team being physically annihilated by the friggin St. Louis Rams. Not sure shutting down poor offensive teams like Pitt or Baltimore, or the Giants without Plax or Jacobs washes that out.
If Stewart isn't here next season my guess is he's not nearly involved as you think he is anymore. We'll see.
theogt;2522864 said:If Wade is here, Stewart is here. Stewart is part of this winning formula, whatever his role is. Firing guys even when their unit is performing well is pretty stupid. But hey, if the shoe fits.