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peplaw06;1558028 said:
On the frickin nosey.

Part of me thought that people were wanting to see Vick go down because they thought it would benefit the Cowboys, I just couldn't say it as well as you did. Problem is we don't play them this regular season, and I didn't think they were a threat to snag a playoff spot.

But I guess, if he's gone you have one less thing to worry about if we are in the playoffs. But I think it's a little petty.

If this were McNabb or Eli Manning or dare I say Brady Quinn, the cartwheels around here would make more sense. After all, their loss would be our gain. Nor is Vick a loathsome figure in the mold of a Barry Bonds or Dennis Rodman. Yes, he's had some embarrassing episodes, and his little brother appears to be a recidivist truant (where are their parents??), but the casual fan doesn't "love to hate" him. He just picked the worst possible victims from a public opinion standpoint.
 

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bbgun;1558069 said:
If this were McNabb or Eli Manning or dare I say Brady Quinn, the cartwheels around here would make more sense. After all, their loss would be our gain. Nor is Vick a loathsome figure in the mold of a Barry Bonds or Dennis Rodman. Yes, he's had some embarrassing episodes, and his little brother appears to be a recidivist truant (where are their parents??), but the casual fan doesn't "love to hate" him. He just picked the worst possible victims from a public opinion standpoint.
I heart Brady Quinn.
 

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Jaxonsdaddd;1558061 said:
I am amazed that people constantly look to the Duke lacross situation as a reason to not prematuerly judge Vick. The two situations couldnt be more different.

First and foremost, there was never any evidence in the Duke case. Once that story broke I took the position of, lets wait to hear what the DA has on these kids and the evidence never surfaced..

With Vick there is so much evidence that it is ridiculous..People wont admit this but because hes a NFL player and rich, some people are taking more of a wait and see than they would for anyone else. I mean think about it, if you learned your neighbor Bob Smith had 30 carcases in his back yard, would you all really be saying, "He may not know anything about it, lets wait and see, its only a vacation house"...:rolleyes: ..
Omigod.... I just told you I thought he was guilty. There's a huge difference between believing someone is guilty based on the little evidence you know, and acting out on that belief based on the little evidence you know.

If your neighbor Bob Smith had 30 human carcasses in his backyard, would you go over and execute him yourself?

And it doesn't matter how different the situations are. Jeffery Dahmer has the same right to due process as Joe Blow who got arrested for DWI.
 

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fortdick;1557803 said:
Knew the lawyer would come to his defense. Musta traded in your soul when you signed up for law school.

Actually, they have it surgically removed shortly after the start of the second semester...
 

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BB, your last sentence explained it all.

This has nothing to do with the Falcons, or wins and losses, or the sport he plays. If you're going to eletrocute and otherwise torture man's best friend, people are going to hate you for that fact alone. It's that simple.
 

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I was in the shower thinking of this thread, and the below popped into my head.

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Chocolate Lab;1558075 said:
BB, your last sentence explained it all.

This has nothing to do with the Falcons, or wins and losses, or the sport he plays. If you're going to eletrocute and otherwise torture man's best friend, people are going to hate you for that fact alone. It's that simple.

Exactly. You can slap around a ho, but keep your hands off Fido. Now we have to determine if it really happened.
 

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peplaw06;1558072 said:
Omigod.... I just told you I thought he was guilty. There's a huge difference between believing someone is guilty based on the little evidence you know, and acting out on that belief based on the little evidence you know.

If your neighbor Bob Smith had 30 human carcasses in his backyard, would you go over and execute him yourself?

And it doesn't matter how different the situations are. Jeffery Dahmer has the same right to due process as Joe Blow who got arrested for DWI.


Peplaw, my post really wasnt directed specifically at you but I see you took it that way. I have just been hearing for days how not to jump to conclusions ala the Duke case. As I said before the only problem with making that point is one case had no evidence, Duke, and the Vick case has a tremendous amount of evidence that we already know of. I can only imagine the totality of everything they have....

And of course I believe Vick deserves a defense and due process as every other american does.
 

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zrinkill;1558031 said:
Hmmm this is a touchy subject.

Personally I think its barbaric and stupid.

But I do not think I could send someone to jail and ruin their life over a dog or a cat.

Now I would have no problem for someone to beat his arse ...... punk deserves it if he is guilty of cruelty to animals.

But I dont know if I could sit on a jury and send a kid who has never gotten in any real trouble (other than being an idiot)to prison over an animal.

Sorry ahead of time if that offends anyone.

I have to admit that your position on this issue does disturb me a great deal but obviously we are all entitled to our beliefs....But the idea of someone walking the streets, who would hang dogs, bash there heads in and drown a dog for pleasure scares the hell out of me...I think someone who would commit these types of acts is capable of just about anything
 

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diamond cutter;1558082 said:
Cowboys fans want the Falcons to have more wins than the Browns!
Good point. Vick getting suspended may actually hurt us. Eek.
 

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theogt;1558083 said:
Good point. Vick getting suspended may actually hurt us. Eek.

I would think the Falcons would be in line for a QB if Vick is suspended. Cut bait and move on.
 

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Thehoofbite;1558085 said:
I would think the Falcons would be in line for a QB if Vick is suspended. Cut bait and move on.
Maybe. Or maybe they'd be willing to trade out to someone who wanted McF.
 

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fortdick;1557787 said:
I was checking out Extemeskins to see how they were taking the Vick news over there.

Their poll

81% say he should be suspend

Our poll

55% say he should be suspended.

Now, does that mean that Skins fans are more compassionate towards animals? Or that we just have more persuasive Vick defenders?

All these polls mean is the Vick isn't a Cowboy or a Skin. If he were, I doubt more than 20% would want him suspended.
 

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It's called innocent until proven guilty even though one knows the "true" answer.

To say what you "think" is one thing, to follow the rules of the country when rendering your decision is another.
 

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It doesnt look good for Vick, obviously.

But you have to wait it out.

Look at the Duke kids, they didnt do **** and theyre lives are forever changed. A coach resigned, the season was cancelled ect.



It has all the makings of Vick heading to jail anyway, so let the courts take care of it
 

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Stop reading so much into this. It's simple. Portis. It's a knee-jerk reaction to Portis' comments following the Vick fallout. Shamed, and their reasoning has been construed and they probably don't even know where they stand. Just want to make it a point that they "don't endorse" behavior like this. We would be no better if it was one of our players having made those comments.
 

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GlitzCowboy;1558169 said:
Stop reading so much into this. It's simple. Portis. It's a knee-jerk reaction to Portis' comments following the Vick fallout. Shamed, and their reasoning has been construed and they probably don't even know where they stand. Just want to make it a point that they "don't endorse" behavior like this. We would be no better if it was one of our players having made those comments.

"I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not, but it's his property, it's his dog,"

"If that's what he wants to do, do it. I think people should mind their business."

When told that dog fighting is a felony, Portis replied, "It can't be too bad of a crime."

"You want to hunt down Mike Vick over fighting some dogs?," Portis told the television station. "I think people should mind their own business."

- Clinton Portis

Knee jerk reaction? Not hardly, no need to read into Portis' comments, it's pretty clear what he is saying. Are you a Portis fan or something?
 
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