I Am Sick Of Hearing...Bledsoe...

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Is good IF you give him time, IF he can plant his feet, IF the pocket stays intact, IF his receivers can get open, IF you give his enough time, IF, IF ,IF...

Like he's only capable IF you give him a perfect pocket and only if he doesn't have to think or run or WHATEVER...

NOW, all the announcers are like monkeys, mimicing each other...Bledose, he can be dangerous IF they protect him...

Bledsoe can make that throw IF you give him time...


STOP!

It's true for most QB's that if you give him a pocket and time and open receivers...they caqn make the throw...So what is he handicapped or something?

Enough already!:banghead:
 

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I really thought Simms did a good job yesterday of pointing out how good Bledsoe really is, and how he's sick of hearing all the things Bledsoe can't do. it was nice to hear.
 

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People just hate him because he is old and was not an original draft of ours. He is far from our reason for losing.
 

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Dogstar said:
Is good IF you give him time, IF he can plant his feet, IF the pocket stays intact, IF his receivers can get open, IF you give his enough time, IF, IF ,IF...

Like he's only capable IF you give him a perfect pocket and only if he doesn't have to think or run or WHATEVER...

NOW, all the announcers are like monkeys, mimicing each other...Bledose, he can be dangerous IF they protect him...

Bledsoe can make that throw IF you give him time...


STOP!

It's true for most QB's that if you give him a pocket and time and open receivers...they caqn make the throw...So what is he handicapped or something?

Enough already!:banghead:
Be prepared to duck.
 

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I noticed that too, he even said it..."You hear alot about Bledsoe can't do..." I remember that statement.

But when you hear the same generalization over and over again, you come to realize how these announcers just mimic each other and go wth what others already are saying. Get some originality guys!
 

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There is something Bledsoe has that these young flashy QBs cant...Lead a team when the team needs him most. For example, How many QBs can throw an int for a TD and then comeback as if it never happened and almost win the game
 

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I have been very critical of Drew on this forum. Here is what I think he brings to the table:

1. Height - Can see over the linemen.

2. Strong Arm - He is more accurate on the long passes.

3. Confidence - No matter what you do to this kid he will continue to play.

4. Leadership? I haven't seen it for myself yet.


What he doesn't bring to the table:

1. Accuracy on short passes. He is going to get JJ killed someday soon.

2. Lack of mobility to even side step a rush. Teams will make up there mind to go after him because where he usually plants his feet is where he is going to stay. Easy target. Can take a hit though.

3. Slow drop back. He's like Herman Monster when he drops back. This gives defenses time to adjust to the routes of our WR's and sniff out the play.

4. Suspect decision making and has shown that he will give up the picks that you don't want to throw. Usually the kind to go back for a TD.

5. Lacks the ability to take over a game although he has a couple of times this year. In other words, he shows flashes of greatness but will fall back to earth if everything isn't working on all fronts. Is not consistent in this area.



** As I have said earlier. I am not sold on the Drew project (both of them) as of yet and DB has to prove to me that he can raise his game above the adjustments of the remaining defenses that have now figured out how to beat him. He doesn't have a good 'O' line but we haven't had one of those for a while now so if anything he should be able to adjust to the pressures of bad 'O' line play better than our younger QB's had to deal with.

As far as I am concerned, he is still a bus driver and I believe it is because Drew doesn't make the right decisions more times than not. BP knows him better than anyone on this forum and there is a reason why he doesn't let him fling it around. Also, to let Drew fling it around means that he can fend for himself for the most part back in the pocket and he just doesn't have the ability to keep plays alive on his own. He is horrible passing on the run so pass protection is a premium. With our 'O' line playing the way it is, BP has to be careful on when he needs to let Drew pass.

If I had to compare him to any QB in the league right now I would say that he is taller, stronger armed and less mobile Brad Johnson.

I will now go and get my bullet proof vest and take cover.

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I'm happy with Drew. He's been better than I expected, and there's no doubt he's miles better that what we've had at QB for years now. But it makes me jealous seeing these QBs, like even Plummer, who can move around and at least buy time with their legs. I can think of at least 40 or 50 yards that Plummer got yesterday that probably would have been sacks or throwaways with Bledsoe in there.
 

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When I saw him yesterday, live at the game, I was astonished at how big he is. In warm ups, he towered over the linemen and D. I could not believe what I saw. You dont see this on TV. But man, hes a big ole man.

I like him. His problem is the same as JJ and MBIII and Keys and Wittens. The O line. Sure the IF's suck, but its not a matter of IF. Its a matter of our O-line really is bad at Run blocking and Pass protection. Here goes.....If we had a line that was just average compared to the rest of the NFL, He would really be something special. But the fact remains under pressure as he is, hes still doing what Vinny, Quincy, Hutch, Ryan, who else has played there since Aikman left, cant do. By time, make plays and win games.

The fact the fans hate him is really making me scratch my head. I dont know how you can hate a guy that gives his all, wins more games then he loses and really does a great job of protecting the ball and letting the plays develope. Hes no Vick, but then Vicks no Bledsoe. Sure he makes mistakes, they are part of the game, every QB that has ever played made mistakes, and made mistakes that cost their teams some games. Nothing new on that front with Bledsoe, Hes made his share.

I personally would take Drew Bledsoe on my team any day of the week. hes done more with what we have then could be reached by any of the QB that have played for us since Aikman, Hes done about as well as any FA QB that we could have brought in here. I doubt with Brett Favre we would be unbeaten.

While your tired of 'What ifs'..... its true though, If we had the line we could be proud of, we would be looking a lot better in areas of the game, including W-L columns. Our O-line is really hurting us.
 

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Chocolate Lab said:
I'm happy with Drew. He's been better than I expected, and there's no doubt he's miles better that what we've had at QB for years now. But it makes me jealous seeing these QBs, like even Plummer, who can move around and at least buy time with their legs. I can think of at least 40 or 50 yards that Plummer got yesterday that probably would have been sacks or throwaways with Bledsoe in there.

I hear you Choco Lab. Unfortunately, this is why Drew needs more working parts in the overall offensive scheme to work on every Sunday. You give him time and he will give you a nice pass. However, under pressure he will be as inaccurate as QC was. How many times did you see bad passes to receivers yesterday and even JJ was getting a little pissed off when Drew threw a pass behind him.

Everyone is saying that he is the best thing that we have had here in a while but it doesn't matter until he proves that he is the smartest player on the field when the offense has the ball. If a defense is limiting you in terms of what you want to do on offense, then you have to make sure that whatever you do on offense has to be timely and precise. Late and slow passes won't get it done. With our 'O' line we cannot waste opportunities when we throw the ball and Drew hasn't been the most accurate these last few games.

Now that I think about it. We run the risk of backing into the playoffs (if we make it at all) just like in 2003. Our passing game got off to a fast start in 2003 and we were the toast of the town for like 5-6 games. Then we started to struggle and every game became much like the ones that we are having now. A big soap opera! Terry Glenn and Company got off to a fast start as well that year but he and Joey started to not be involved in the offense as much as defenses stopped respecting the running game. That's when our skirt was lifted and QC started getting more erratic as the pressure started building from opposing defenses.

Drew and this offense has holes no doubt but as far as anointing him the QB for the next 3 years like some have said earlier. Forget about it. One more year if that for me. Point blank. Drew has to be able to rise above the coming pressure despite the short comings on offense. This is what great QB's do when their teams need them the most. They are in the glamour postion because of this ability. They are the leaders of the team because of this. They are in the enemies scope because it all starts and ends with the QB postion and we cannot afford to have a QB that doesn't have another gear to switch to when the going gets tough and believe me, it's going to get a lot more tough then what we have seen.

Get it together Drew! We need you now!!
 

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Sorry bro but it's not true for most QBs.......Drew Bledsoe delivers almost every sigle time he has time to throw...And he doesnt just deliver little wobbly passes, he throws bullets into areas most QBs wont get them in.



Drew Bledsoe is a HUGE reason this team is even contending.
 

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Martice said:
** As I have said earlier. I am not sold on the Drew project (both of them) as of yet and DB has to prove to me that he can raise his game above the adjustments of the remaining defenses that have now figured out how to beat him. He doesn't have a good 'O' line but we haven't had one of those for a while now so if anything he should be able to adjust to the pressures of bad 'O' line play better than our younger QB's had to deal with.

As far as I am concerned, he is still a bus driver and I believe it is because Drew doesn't make the right decisions more times than not. BP knows him better than anyone on this forum and there is a reason why he doesn't let him fling it around. Also, to let Drew fling it around means that he can fend for himself for the most part back in the pocket and he just doesn't have the ability to keep plays alive on his own. He is horrible passing on the run so pass protection is a premium. With our 'O' line playing the way it is, BP has to be careful on when he needs to let Drew pass.

If I had to compare him to any QB in the league right now I would say that he is taller, stronger armed and less mobile Brad Johnson.

I will now go and get my bullet proof vest and take cover.

:shootme:
Just replace the Drew's with QC! Now i'll go duck too!
 

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Martice said:
I hear you Choco Lab. Unfortunately, this is why Drew needs more working parts in the overall offensive scheme to work on every Sunday.
That's exactly why I think we need to somehow get our hands on a fast, playmaking receiver who can make something out of otherwise routine plays. Right now, there are times they blitz, we pick it up perfectly, and we only get a six yard gain out of it before our guy is tackled. That's nice, but it's not a harsh enough penalty to get them to back off. We need a player who can make someone miss in that situation and take it the distance, or at least 30 or 40 yards. Otherwise, teams will just continue to blitz unmercifully -- which is what I expect to see the rest of the season.
 

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People just hate him because he is old and was not an original draft of ours. He is far from our reason for losing.

That pretty much "described" me when we acquired him.

I hate this dude. I couldnt stand Mr. Bledsoe when Parcells brought him and to go to sleep, I just figured I could just flip the channel when the team was on offense, so I wouldnt have to watch the guy :cool: .

Im the guys biggest fan. I was a little concerned when Mike Winiki told me Bledsoe got off to a fast start in Buffalo and then simmered down, but I think Bledsoe will continue to play well.

This guy is the MVP of this season. You would be hard pressed to tell me one other player on this team could make this team sink like a bag of potatoes like it would if Drew Bledsoe got hurt.

And some of the throws he made while the pocket was collapsing and guys like Al Wilson was hanging all over him was just amazing to me.

I put only one loss on Bledsoe's shoulder, which was the Seattle game and I guess you could make a strong case for the Oakland game.

But like I told my brother who is a fickle fairweather fan of the Cowboys, when Bledsoe throws an interception, he doesnt fold and go into a shell like Quincy or doesnt continue to be a gift that wont stop giving like Vinny. He comes back strong and keeps on making throws.

That is why I need this organization to Draft a young quarterback like Vincent Young (if he comes out) or some other top prospect so they can watch this guy and see how it is suppose to be done.
 

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Martice said:
I hear you Choco Lab. Unfortunately, this is why Drew needs more working parts in the overall offensive scheme to work on every Sunday. You give him time and he will give you a nice pass. However, under pressure he will be as inaccurate as QC was. How many times did you see bad passes to receivers yesterday and even JJ was getting a little pissed off when Drew threw a pass behind him.

Everyone is saying that he is the best thing that we have had here in a while but it doesn't matter until he proves that he is the smartest player on the field when the offense has the ball. If a defense is limiting you in terms of what you want to do on offense, then you have to make sure that whatever you do on offense has to be timely and precise. Late and slow passes won't get it done. With our 'O' line we cannot waste opportunities when we throw the ball and Drew hasn't been the most accurate these last few games.

Now that I think about it. We run the risk of backing into the playoffs (if we make it at all) just like in 2003. Our passing game got off to a fast start in 2003 and we were the toast of the town for like 5-6 games. Then we started to struggle and every game became much like the ones that we are having now. A big soap opera! Terry Glenn and Company got off to a fast start as well that year but he and Joey started to not be involved in the offense as much as defenses stopped respecting the running game. That's when our skirt was lifted and QC started getting more erratic as the pressure started building from opposing defenses.

Drew and this offense has holes no doubt but as far as anointing him the QB for the next 3 years like some have said earlier. Forget about it. One more year if that for me. Point blank. Drew has to be able to rise above the coming pressure despite the short comings on offense. This is what great QB's do when their teams need them the most. They are in the glamour postion because of this ability. They are the leaders of the team because of this. They are in the enemies scope because it all starts and ends with the QB postion and we cannot afford to have a QB that doesn't have another gear to switch to when the going gets tough and believe me, it's going to get a lot more tough then what we have seen.

Get it together Drew! We need you now!!

great post
 

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DallasDomination said:
Drew Bledsoe is a HUGE reason this team is even contending.

:hammer:


I think everyone should remember this quote, before they decide to bring up Bledsoe again.
 

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Drew Bledsoe is not unique in that he needs protection. He needs no more protection than Peyton Manning. He also needs no less options to throw the ball to than Peyton Manning. It's as if Drew Bledsoe is the only QB to ever step foot onto a football field who needs protection and targets with the way these announcer repeat themselves. I'm with you but I've been thinking this since preseason Bledsoe is not unique in that he needs protection.....just because he's not gotten it in Buffalo doesn't mean he's the only quarterback in the NFL who needs a good offensive line.

The Quarterback is the most dependent position on the field. He needs the other 10 guys to do their jobs and do them well for him to beable to perform to the best of his ability.

I predicted Drew would have an exceptional year based on what he's done in the past when he's had adequate protection and good receivers/tight ends. This was an informed prediction as opposed to some who just decided Bledsoe was "a statue" and his career was over at the age of 33. I knew the kind of arm he had I knew what he could do many of you didn't. Infact I see somebody on here STILL sporting a gd signature with Bledsoe as a statue...you look real smart, by the way.

http://www.cowboys-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12093
 

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JuliusCaesar said:
Drew Bledsoe is not unique in that he needs protection. He needs no more protection than Peyton Manning. He also needs no less options to throw the ball to than Peyton Manning. It's as if Drew Bledsoe is the only QB to ever step foot onto a football field who needs protection and targets with the way these announcer repeat themselves. I'm with you but I've been thinking this since preseason Bledsoe is not unique in that he needs protection.....just because he's not gotten it in Buffalo doesn't mean he's the only quarterback in the NFL who needs a good offensive line.

The Quarterback is the most dependent position on the field. He needs the other 10 guys to do their jobs and do them well for him to beable to perform to the best of his ability.

I predicted Drew would have an exceptional year based on what he's done in the past when he's had adequate protection and good receivers/tight ends. This was an informed prediction as opposed to some who just decided Bledsoe was "a statue" and his career was over at the age of 33. I knew the kind of arm he had I knew what he could do many of you didn't. Infact I see somebody on here STILL sporting a gd signature with Bledsoe as a statue...you look real smart, by the way.

http://www.cowboys-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12093

I wrote this in a other post but it plays well here


Let me take you all back to the 1st half of the denver game with the Cowboys at their own 3 yard line...the play is a bootleg with the thought of hitting the TE #86...the Bronco defender did a great job of covering the TE...There is no longer any play to make so our 13 - <T.H.I.R.T.E.E.N> year veteran decides instead of throwing, lobbing, rolling, tossing, shot putting, head butting, kneeing, kicking, the ball out of bounds..he decides he is gonna take on a speedy defense and race for a 100 yards and a score...well as we all know he lost 2 yards on the play leaving us at the one yard line...

I am not mad at Bledsoe for throwing a pick and allowing the Bronco's a TD and momentum...I'm not mad at him throwing behind Key on a slant or low to Glenn or high to Witten...heck all Qb's have some bad throws...but I am frustrated as heck with the brain dead decisions he makes at times....

Come on lets be honest Bledsoe does stuff that a 3 year vet should not be doing anymore.... let alone a 13 year vet...

Yes it is true you can win with Bledsoe but it is also true he can/has/will cost you games... at some point he becomes a liability

I've said it before but Bledsoe is a have to have QB...more so than normal...

he has to have a great O-line, a great running game, great TE, great WR's, great game plan, great Defense and great special teams and than you get good QB play...
 

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Dogstar said:
Is good IF you give him time, IF he can plant his feet, IF the pocket stays intact, IF his receivers can get open, IF you give his enough time, IF, IF ,IF...

Like he's only capable IF you give him a perfect pocket and only if he doesn't have to think or run or WHATEVER...

NOW, all the announcers are like monkeys, mimicing each other...Bledose, he can be dangerous IF they protect him...

Bledsoe can make that throw IF you give him time...


STOP!

It's true for most QB's that if you give him a pocket and time and open receivers...they caqn make the throw...So what is he handicapped or something?

Enough already!:banghead:
Good point.

Although it seems to be even more applicable when referring to Bledsoe because he is that much better or that much worse in relation to other QBs in this regard.
 
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