I Am Sick Of Hearing...Bledsoe...

[kartr]

There is something Bledsoe has that these young flashy QBs cant...Lead a team when the team needs him most. For example, How many QBs can throw an int for a TD and then comeback as if it never happened and almost win the game

Bledsoe has been given more time to develop than those qb's you're referring to and yet he still fails.

 

[kartr]

I hear you Choco Lab. Unfortunately, this is why Drew needs more working parts in the overall offensive scheme to work on every Sunday. You give him time and he will give you a nice pass. However, under pressure he will be as inaccurate as QC was. How many times did you see bad passes to receivers yesterday and even JJ was getting a little pissed off when Drew threw a pass behind him.

Everyone is saying that he is the best thing that we have had here in a while but it doesn't matter until he proves that he is the smartest player on the field when the offense has the ball. If a defense is limiting you in terms of what you want to do on offense, then you have to make sure that whatever you do on offense has to be timely and precise. Late and slow passes won't get it done. With our 'O' line we cannot waste opportunities when we throw the ball and Drew hasn't been the most accurate these last few games.

Now that I think about it. We run the risk of backing into the playoffs (if we make it at all) just like in 2003. Our passing game got off to a fast start in 2003 and we were the toast of the town for like 5-6 games. Then we started to struggle and every game became much like the ones that we are having now. A big soap opera! Terry Glenn and Company got off to a fast start as well that year but he and Joey started to not be involved in the offense as much as defenses stopped respecting the running game. That's when our skirt was lifted and QC started getting more erratic as the pressure started building from opposing defenses.

Drew and this offense has holes no doubt but as far as anointing him the QB for the next 3 years like some have said earlier. Forget about it. One more year if that for me. Point blank. Drew has to be able to rise above the coming pressure despite the short comings on offense. This is what great QB's do when their teams need them the most. They are in the glamour postion because of this ability. They are the leaders of the team because of this. They are in the enemies scope because it all starts and ends with the QB postion and we cannot afford to have a QB that doesn't have another gear to switch to when the going gets tough and believe me, it's going to get a lot more tough then what we have seen.

Get it together Drew! We need you now!!

The problem I have with him is that he has more experience and better weapons than QC had and yet still makes the same mistakes. QC's int's usually came late in the game when we were trailing by a double-digit lead.
And with meager weapons was sometimes able to bring us back. Neither QC or Vinny had as good of protection as Drew or RB's or WR's or a pass rush or secondary. Also, our defense gave up only 14 points in regulation time, Drew's responsible for the rest.

 

[AsthmaField]

Bledsoe has been given more time to develop than those qb's you're referring to and yet he still fails.

Bledsoe isn't failing, dude... He's leading us to the playoff's.

This season must be miserable for you watching Bledsoe win, win, win. You hate him so much and yet he continues to take us to victory.

We're one of the best teams in the NFC, and Bledsoe has a lot to do with that.

It's no wonder you only show up here after we lose.

 

[AsthmaField]

QC's int's usually came late in the game when we were trailing by a double-digit lead.

Oh, that is funny!

Did you forget you're talking to Cowboy fans? We all watched the horror movie that was Quincy Carter. We know your above statement is bull****.


Also, it's funny that you say when we won, it was QC "leading" us to victory and when we lost, it was because Quincy had no help due to the bad team around him.

So, he was responsible for the wins but the rest of the team was responsible for the losses? Riiiiiiiiiiight.

He tagged along for the ride to the playoffs in '03, in spite of his crappy play. If we had had a real QB that year, no telling how much farther we might have gone in the playoffs.

 

[jimmy40]

Drew Bledsoe is not unique in that he needs protection. He needs no more protection than Peyton Manning.

Yes he does. Peyton Manning is smarter, has a quicker release and is just flat out twice as good.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Personally I think that Carson Palmer is the most similar QB to Aikman, since Aikman.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Nah

I think Tom Brady reminds me the most of Troy Aikman. I bet he will have the same positive and negatives in his career as Aikman.

He will be regard as a Systems guy and people will name 1 million other reason why he had 3 Rings other than him.

When I see Carson Palmer, I dont see Aikman.

- Mike G.

 

[Cbz40]

Personally I think that Carson Palmer is the most similar QB to Aikman, since Aikman.

After thinking about your statement for a couple of minutes.....I think I agree.

 

[jimmy40]

Personally I think that Carson Palmer is the most similar QB to Aikman, since Aikman.

Carbon Copy.

 

[jimmy40]

Nah

I think Tom Brady reminds me the most of Troy Aikman. I bet he will have the same positive and negatives in his career as Aikman.

He will be regard as a Systems guy and people will name 1 million other reason why he had 3 Rings other than him.

When I see Carson Palmer, I dont see Aikman.

- Mike G.

Tom Brady makes his plays by buying time in the pocket, not by running a timing offense to perfection like Aikman.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Nah

I think Tom Brady reminds me the most of Troy Aikman. I bet he will have the same positive and negatives in his career as Aikman.

He will be regard as a Systems guy and people will name 1 million other reason why he had 3 Rings other than him.

When I see Carson Palmer, I dont see Aikman.

- Mike G.

Tom Brady reminds me more of Phil Simms, or even somewhat Montana.

I think that Aikman had a much better arm, more similar to Palmer.
Brady plays in a WCO, totally different system than Aikman. Whereas Palmer and Aikman were/are in systems that primarily (usually) ran/run the ball and take shots at big plays through play action and RYAC.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Brady still reminds me of Aikman, mo.

- Mike G.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Tom Brady makes his plays by buying time in the pocket, not by running a timing offense to perfection like Aikman.

Thats not really true. Every QB plays in a timing system (somewhat) every short to intermediate pass is a timing pattern and that is what Bradys' bread and butter is.

Solid OL, a good blocking/receiving RB, and short to intermediate routes.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

I have been very critical of Drew on this forum. Here is what I think he brings to the table:

1. Height - Can see over the linemen.

2. Strong Arm - He is more accurate on the long passes.

3. Confidence - No matter what you do to this kid he will continue to play.

4. Leadership? I haven't seen it for myself yet.


What he doesn't bring to the table:

1. Accuracy on short passes. He is going to get JJ killed someday soon.

2. Lack of mobility to even side step a rush. Teams will make up there mind to go after him because where he usually plants his feet is where he is going to stay. Easy target. Can take a hit though.

3. Slow drop back. He's like Herman Monster when he drops back. This gives defenses time to adjust to the routes of our WR's and sniff out the play.

4. Suspect decision making and has shown that he will give up the picks that you don't want to throw. Usually the kind to go back for a TD.

5. Lacks the ability to take over a game although he has a couple of times this year. In other words, he shows flashes of greatness but will fall back to earth if everything isn't working on all fronts. Is not consistent in this area.



** As I have said earlier. I am not sold on the Drew project (both of them) as of yet and DB has to prove to me that he can raise his game above the adjustments of the remaining defenses that have now figured out how to beat him. He doesn't have a good 'O' line but we haven't had one of those for a while now so if anything he should be able to adjust to the pressures of bad 'O' line play better than our younger QB's had to deal with.

As far as I am concerned, he is still a bus driver and I believe it is because Drew doesn't make the right decisions more times than not. BP knows him better than anyone on this forum and there is a reason why he doesn't let him fling it around. Also, to let Drew fling it around means that he can fend for himself for the most part back in the pocket and he just doesn't have the ability to keep plays alive on his own. He is horrible passing on the run so pass protection is a premium. With our 'O' line playing the way it is, BP has to be careful on when he needs to let Drew pass.

If I had to compare him to any QB in the league right now I would say that he is taller, stronger armed and less mobile Brad Johnson.

I will now go and get my bullet proof vest and take cover.

:shootme:

A 7-4 record might tell you that he is making more good decisions than bad ones.

Also his INT-TD ratio would too.

 

[superpunk]

Tom Brady reminds me more of Phil Simms, or even somewhat Montana.

I think that Aikman had a much better arm, more similar to Palmer.
Brady plays in a WCO, totally different system than Aikman. Whereas Palmer and Aikman were/are in systems that primarily (usually) ran/run the ball and take shots at big plays through play action and RYAC.

IMO, Brady has one of the best arms in the league. When I see him throwing 50 yard strikes, I'm amazed at it. I don't think he gets enough talent for his physical tools.

 

[Nors]

Tom Brady makes his plays by buying time in the pocket, not by running a timing offense to perfection like Aikman.

Not really - Brady is much more like Marino

He gets the ball out fast and makes good reads. I've seen him probably 16 times in person - thats his best atribute.

 

[jimmy40]

Not really - Brady is much more like Marino

He gets the ball out fast and makes good reads. I've seen him probably 16 times in person - thats his best atribute.

What the hell does seeing him in person mean Nors? The tv shows the qb when he has the ball, every damn person watching him on tv sees the same thing at qb that someone at the game sees, you just don't see the whole field. Tom Brady makes his plays by buying time in the pocket, that couldn't be more unlike Marino.
btw: When the hell do you have time to be a Cowboys fan? Will you still be a Cowboys fan after Parcells/Bledsoe are gone?

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I definately dont see Marino when I see Brady toss the ball around.

- Mike G.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

What the hell does seeing him in person mean Nors? The tv shows the qb when he has the ball, every damn person watching him on tv sees the same thing at qb that someone at the game sees, you just don't see the whole field. Tom Brady makes his plays by buying time in the pocket, that couldn't be more unlike Marino.
btw: When the hell do you have time to be a Cowboys fan? Will you still be a Cowboys fan after Parcells/Bledsoe are gone?

On that note...im out
<ducks out quietly before all hell breaks loose>

 

[TwoDeep3]

When you are ready to talk about how a player is actually playing within the game I will listen.

Good day.

I have a feeling after all the evidence of how this player IS playing, and your dancing with this comment, there will be no listening from you.

The yards for the season are not some abberation. They don't pile up from a guy who makes bad decisions.

I've watched enough of Bledsoe here and in other locales to know he throws a dang nice ball and is capable of reading defenses.

What is missed in all the Bledsoe bashing from last year is the win/loss over the last 8 games of Buffalo's season.

And Drew was the quarterback.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

I never stop a man from assimilating information and coming to a clear cut wrong conclusion.