I don't believe Dak will just come in and light it up

GINeric

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What makes you say I'm cheering against anyone?
I hope they win, with or without Dak.
I just think it's funny how some make Dak out to be something he's not.


If you are one of those people then Im talking about you. If you're not one of those people, then im not talking about you. A hit dog will hollar..... but if it doesn't pertain to you then stop howling.

Ive never made Dak out to be something he's not, so I can't relate to what you may be talking about.
 

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It's almost like we haven't been watching him do nothing for the last six years! What are you even talking about?

I'm 'even' talking about Dak's terrible game vs. the Bucs, when he looked panicky on the bench before playing so poorly. Add to that, the injury to his thumb, which surely doesn't guarantee he won't be adversely affected in the long run. I'm quite partial to Dak and haven't been one to cast doubt on him in the past. As a matter of fact, I haven't been overly stingy about casting praise his way, in case you haven't noticed.

I'm just concerned about him lately and like many other fans here, I'm hoping he'll return to his winning ways. You seem like I'm the only one having such thoughts. Guess what -- I'm definitely not. Things can and often will change, given certain occurrences. Loss of confidence and injuries are just a couple, without a doubt. I hope to see him recover to the tune of 100%, just like so many others here.
 
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Who says he “more often than not checks out to the pass”?

Dude, you're so blinded by defending Dak against any perceived criticism that you're not actually reading what people are saying and reading too much into it. I said "IF" in that statement. Have you ever heard of hypotheticals? You lost. You accused me of saying something I didn't and were wrong. Man up and admit it. Stop being petulant and trying to accuse me of saying things I'm not.

Here are the facts:

The Cowboys abandon the run.
Moore is the OC.
Dak is the QB.

If the OC is abandoning it, then the QB should be insisting on more balance and shouting it from the rooftops to him, the HC and even Jerry if he has to. Maybe even the media if that's going nowhere.
If the QB is checking out of the called run play, then that is on the QB too.

The only way Dak is not partially at fault is if he's screaming at them to stick with the run and Moore isn't listening, McCarthy won't tell Moore to, and Jerry won't tell Moore to.

Again, some of the key words here is IF. And nowhere did I mention causes for wins or losses or even the SB. My statements are only about them abandoning the run. Period.
 

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Hmm interesting thats not what I hear around these parts. Running game, defense, coaching doesn't matter. Its all on Dak, if we lose its cuz Dak is a loser who can't get it done. I just was curious if that standard applied to everyone else is all.
Oh trust me...there is a segment on here that blames Dak for everything.

Dak has a piece of it but not all of it fpr the wins or the losses.
 

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Regardless of how the 2 TD win happened I don't see Dak just sitting back and letting the run game do their thing.

Especially now.

We went 4-1 with Cooper Rush while Dak ran his yap any chance he got about how the offense was going to "roll" when he got back. He's going to want to come out and show it. I believe the team as a whole will suffer for it if things go the route that Dak always seems to take things.

I just ask that if things look different, if the defense struggles because they're on the field after quick 3 and outs a bunch, if the O-line suddenly can't block and we give up sacks, if the run game can't get going, and the plays don't seem to be working... take into account that a QB change happened.
well, let the games be played first before we come to conclusions. we know Rush is not the short term, nor the long term answer. he has been figured out. hope the defense keeps it up and continues at this pace and gets better.
 

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Despite a solid job by Cooper Rush managing this team while Dak was gone, I don't believe Dak will just come in and light it up. Dak hasn’t had a chance to get into a groove with this offense like Rush has.

We have to show patience for a game or two (as long as we're winning) while Dak gets into a rhythm with this offense. This is not giving Dak any excuses or any passes, but I don't expect to see a solid outing by Dak until the first game after the bye because I still don't believe that hand is fully healed.

Do I believe Dak can play well enough to contribute to winning these next two games before the bye??? Absolutely. But do I think he's going to come in lighting it up?? Absolutely not. Again, let's not kid ourselves with expectations of some heroic performance by Dak after a long layoff recovering from the hand injury.

Oh yeah.... don't think for a minute that opposing defenses aren't going to take the opportunity to swipe at Dak's hand to see how well it holds up, so Rush need to stay ready!!
If I was the Lions, I would blitz Dak into oblivion. The Cowboys better be ready for blitz packages. A QB just returning from injury is blitz meat.
 

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All I'm saying is that when things that didn't happen when Rush was QB all of a sudden start to happen then don't be on here all surprised and blaming the coaches.

When the O-line all of a sudden can't protect Dak then don't blame the coaches.

When the run game all of a sudden is nonexistent then don't blame the coaches.

When we start to be pass happy then don't blame the coaches.

When the defense seems to maybe not look as dominate because they are on the filed more often and quicker don't blame the coaches.

IF, key word IF, these things happen then have the awareness to realize that a QB changed happened also.
what things didn't happen? not much happened with Rush. as the other poster said. we are abysmal offensively. now, people will over react when a 3 and out happens with Dak as if he is the only QB that has 3 an outs. I don't focus on a single drive or quarter, I like to see over all improvement. over all scoring should be better. TOP should increase. offensive ranking should get higher. that trend is more important than a single drive, single quarter or a single game.

again, Rush isn't the short, nor long term answer. Rush's play ran its course. Dak is the only remaining option and wether any of us like it or not, he is here for two years, given him leaving dallas is not doable with the cap hit, specially with Parsons, CD, etc. contracts looming.
 

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If Dak plays within himself and makes it about the team good things will happen, if he plays look at me hero ball it means he learned nothing the last few weeks.
he has to stop trying to prove he was worth his contract. he has to play like he did in 2016.
 

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Pass pass pass pass flag, drive killed, missed block, pass punt, 3 and out how hard is that
you forget Rush is not the QB any more....so it will be different than what you just described.

oh and you forgot to add Interception at the end of your rant
 

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You wait! The running game will be doing great and the Cowboys will be up by 20 and Dak will start slinging it to pad his numbers and act like he won the game for the team.Those 50 point games last year were complete nonsense. The Bill got up by 40 on the Steelers a started playing thier back ups. That's what your supposed to do. But not if you want to pad your stats.
so in essence, if he plays well, he is padding his numbers. if he doesn't play well, then he gets all the blame. so nothing he can do is going to satisfy you....got it :thumbup:
 

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End. the. BS.
That was from first game of 2021 season. How many times are you going to post that to bolster your bs? :laugh:
what ever drives his agenda...take one drive and generalize...take one quarter and generalize. take one game and generalize.
 

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Dude, you're so blinded by defending Dak against any perceived criticism that you're not actually reading what people are saying and reading too much into it. I said "IF" in that statement. Have you ever heard of hypotheticals? You lost. You accused me of saying something I didn't and were wrong. Man up and admit it. Stop being petulant and trying to accuse me of saying things I'm not.

Here are the facts:

The Cowboys abandon the run.
Moore is the OC.
Dak is the QB.

If the OC is abandoning it, then the QB should be insisting on more balance and shouting it from the rooftops to him, the HC and even Jerry if he has to. Maybe even the media if that's going nowhere.
If the QB is checking out of the called run play, then that is on the QB too.

The only way Dak is not partially at fault is if he's screaming at them to stick with the run and Moore isn't listening, McCarthy won't tell Moore to, and Jerry won't tell Moore to.

Again, some of the key words here is IF. And nowhere did I mention causes for wins or losses or even the SB. My statements are only about them abandoning the run. Period.
You’re playing games. You know you don’t like Dak but are unable to admit it. But we all can tell from your posts.
 

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We have 7 years' worth of Dak games to gather information from.

That tweet is just one example, and it actually worked out that game (for Dak, not for the team. Shocker!), but do you not think there's lots of other times that it didn't work out that Kellen didn't throw Dak under the bus for it and announce the bad audibles to the media? You and I both know if he's willing to change the plays that much that it is happening more often than any of us would like.
yeah, but you posted one game to prove and generalize a point and then used it to argue your point.... you understand?
 

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Now do postseason, ya know, when it matters.

It didn't matter Week 1 this season against a worse version of the Bucs with this defense. 3 points!!!! :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

We could've held the Bucs to 4 points and still lost because Dak couldn't do anything. Week 1 DID happen. I know ya'll like to pretend it didn't.
there you go again. did you know last year...the bills scored 6 points in one game. meaning the other team could score a TD and win the game..
Packers scored 7 points in their first game. that's with Rodgers, who is Elite and sure HOFer.
KC scored 3 points in a game last year, meaning the opponent could score 4 points and still win the game.

the 6 points game did happen. the 7 points did happen. the 3 points did happen.


you tend to examine everything in a silo, based on a single standard you set expectations for, without comparing it to others around the league. its asinine.

and I agree, I want to see us be better in playoffs. no doubt.
 

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Allowing 273 rushing yards is a stat

14 penalties is a stat

zeke getting 12 carries -stat

wr's dropping balls, kicker muffing kicks, linemen missing blocks - stat , stat ,stat

It's not all about Dak for me like you say but I get it that it makes you feel good to run that bs.
Daks abilities are greater than your ability to evaluate them. :laugh:
so if it proves that it wasn't just Dak, but there were a lot of other factors contributing to the loss...its a stat because you don't want to deal with, given it disproves your point.

you just want to focus on Dak...because wins/losses are a QB stat?
 

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Total playoff stats by quarter:

4th quarter of 4 playoff games (4 total quarters)

26 of 41 63.4% Comp % 335 yards 2 td 1 int

Quarters 1-3 of 4 playoff games (12 total quarters)

63 of 101 62.4% Comp % 713 yards 4 td's 2 int's

The point? Dak accumulated 33% of his stats for the playoffs in the 4th quarter so where was he in the first 3 quarters of those games? To say Dak's overall stats showed he performed well is misleading as his play in the first 3 quarters of those games had an impact.

4 playoff games for Dak score to start the 4th quarter:

28-13 GB lead (GB won 34-31)

22-10 SEA leaf (Dallas won 24-22)

23-15 LAR lead (LAR won 30-22)

23-7 SF lead (SF won 23-17)
good job. now do the same for Zeke.
 

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Total playoff stats by quarter:

4th quarter of 4 playoff games (4 total quarters)

26 of 41 63.4% Comp % 335 yards 2 td 1 int

Quarters 1-3 of 4 playoff games (12 total quarters)

63 of 101 62.4% Comp % 713 yards 4 td's 2 int's

The point? Dak accumulated 33% of his stats for the playoffs in the 4th quarter so where was he in the first 3 quarters of those games? To say Dak's overall stats showed he performed well is misleading as his play in the first 3 quarters of those games had an impact.

4 playoff games for Dak score to start the 4th quarter:

28-13 GB lead (GB won 34-31)

22-10 SEA leaf (Dallas won 24-22)

23-15 LAR lead (LAR won 30-22)

23-7 SF lead (SF won 23-17)
based on what you posted. his stats are similar in completion percentage in first 3 quarters and last quarter. his YPC is 11 in first 3 quarters, but 12 in 4th quarter.....slightly higher. his YPA is about 8 yards in first 3, vs. last quarter.

the difference is his average attempts per quarter is 8 in first 3 quarters and 10 in 4th quarter...

I can understand a novice like you can just focus on a single number, trying to make a case because you looked at total yards...but that alone doesn't tell the whole story.
 

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2-3 in those 5 games and some of the interesting aspects of those games:

vs. ATL Dallas losing 29-10 at the half

vs. SEA Dallas was losing 30-15 early in the 4th

vs. CLE Dallas was losing 41-14 to start the 4th

So what difference does 30/ppg with Dak that you referenced mean when he wasn't doing anything for half to three quarters of a game? Oh, and using the 2nd game against Philly when the Eagles played 3rd stringers is a reach move. If you take out that game and the game against WASH, in Dak's last 6 games played (2021-2022) he led Dallas to an average of 19.5 points/game.....so does that mean Dak is as bad as Rush in terms of leading the Dallas offense as you and others claim?

Those are facts.
you do realize the defense was on a pace to be the WORST in history of NFL...not just that year, but the HISTORY of NFL....

but yeah, I get you. wins are a team stat, losses are a QB stat for the cowboys
 
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