I don't know if Romo survives that game

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Prescott has been really good in the red zone and better at getting TDs on our first drive. At least that's what I'm seeing. Romo simply takes way more chances, which can be both a good and bad thing, but if we can avoid going back to that type of offense where Romo has to pull a bunch of stunts that he's increasingly less able to pull of from a physical standpoint, all the better. There are big benefits to playing safely and efficiently at that position. You know whose stat lines Prescott reminds me of in terms of how they manage the game (exception of running)? Aikman.

You can say that but is completion percentage is 20 points lower in the red zone. That last TD saw him pull the ball down and run from ghosts before he looked up and saw the easiest read a QB can ever see.

You are describing Romo of 5 years ago and not the one we saw that last couple of years. Romo doesn't pull a lot of stunts; he does run the ball a lot now. He is also able to run those 4 and 5 WR sets. Our complementary receivers are playing better than I can ever recall.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And 6 of the 7 have lost to us after doing so with Prescott at the helm while he's racking up historic rookie QB numbers, but I guess you only remember the last thing to happen. You're in the extreme minority with all the complaining about his play, not sure if you've noticed.

He's not racking up historic numbers. The team is winning but his yardage and TD totals are mediocre. He has relied heavily on a running game.

His efficiency numbers are very good but his attempts are very low which tends to improve those. Generally speaking in sports more usage leads to less efficient production.

 

[mattjames2010]

No, comparing Prescott to Tebow is a terrible argument. You're just stuck on repeat with the "noddle arm" cliche based on a few passes in one game. And now you want to bring up the whole package? Nice pivot. I accept your surrender.

There was no "pivot", what are you on about? I am trying to keep YOU on track. You gave me two quotes that didn't relate to the criticism i have of Prescott.

I have never said Prescott doesn't have it mentally, he has physical limitations. And yeah, a freakin' franchise QB better have "the whole package". That's kinda what makes franchise QBs. You know, the QBs that are smart, can read defenses, can make every kind of throw. The whole package. This is a "pivot" to you?

Look, you either attempt to understand the criticism I am directing at Prescott or we are done here. You're being intentionally thick here and it's beyond tiresome.

 

[DFWJC]

Looks likes this thread for sure is Quarterback Zone thread material now.

 

[drawandstrike]

You can't argue explicitly at this point that Dak is the better passer than Romo. The Eagles D forced Dak into some bad throws last night and he made a pretty good recovery in the 4th and OT. He is still a rookie in his 1st NFL year getting a look at NFL defenses. He still can't seem to see the entire field and his accuracy issues became self evident last night.

Romo is also better at reading defenses and making pre snap adjustments. Dak will get there, it will just take time.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

On what planet? Do you think they would have that type of game plan vs Romo? I don't think so, but whatever it was, Romo is not Super Man. Romo has never gone 16-0 in a season, ever! What makes Romo homers think he can all of a sudden win 16 straight games, and 4 straight games to win a play off game?

this is not even a coherent argument. It reads likes so much babble. I'm putting you on ignore for awhile. I refuse to get mired in this again.

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

There was no "pivot", what are you on about? I am trying to keep YOU on track. You gave me two quotes that didn't relate to the criticism i have of Prescott.

I have never said Prescott doesn't have it mentally, he has physical limitations. And yeah, a freakin' franchise QB better have "the whole package". That's kinda what makes franchise QBs. You know, the QBs that are smart, can read defenses, can make every kind of throw. The whole package. This is a "pivot" to you?

Look, you either attempt to understand the criticism I am directing at Prescott or we are done here. You're being intentionally thick here and it's beyond tiresome.

^^^Guilt projection is fun. YOU focused on arm strength, not me. Click the ignore button if you're incapable of having a civil discussion, which seems to be your M.O..

 

[DFWJC]

I think he is referring to the Commanders. Romo had trouble with Gregg Williams blitz

Yes he did. They beat the hell out of him in 2012.
I do think the line is infinitely better now though.
He got blitzed a ton in 2014 and seemed to do just fine.

Like I said earlier, Dallas has beaten NFC East teams and astounding 12 of the last 13 games Romo has started. I think he handles those guys pretty well.

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

You can't argue explicitly at this point that Dak is the better passer than Romo. The Eagles D forced Dak into some bad throws last night and he made a pretty good recovery in the 4th and OT. He is still a rookie in his 1st NFL year getting a look at NFL defenses. He still can't seem to see the entire field and his accuracy issues became self evident last night.

Romo is also better at reading defenses and making pre snap adjustments. Dak will get there, it will just take time.

In 2014, which most would probably say was Romo's best season, he finished rated #5 in the league in adjusted stats. Almost halfway through the season, Prescott is rated #3. It's actually really easy to make the argument right now.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

In 2014, which most would probably say was Romo's best season, he finished rated #5 in the league in adjusted stats. Almost halfway through the season, Prescott is rated #3. It's actually really easy to make the argument right now.

Waving at efficiency stats and ignoring the aggregate is fun but reeks of confirmation bias to me.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

^^^Guilt projection is fun. YOU focused on arm strength, not me. Click the ignore button if you're incapable of having a civil discussion, which seems to be your M.O..

What are you talking about? He directly refuted your responses. If you want to have a civil discussion I would start with being intellectually honest and addressing his refutations.

He read and acknowledged what you wrote after all.

 

[drawandstrike]

In 2014, which most would probably say was Romo's best season, he finished rated #5 in the league in adjusted stats. Almost halfway through the season, Prescott is rated #3. It's actually really easy to make the argument right now.

That Dak is a better passer of the football than Romo, is better at seeing the field, reading defenses and making presnap adustments?

OK then. Go ahead and EXPLICITLY make that argument. Say Dak passes better, sees the field better, read defenses better than Romo.

 

[DFWJC]

In 2014, which most would probably say was Romo's best season, he finished rated #5 in the league in adjusted stats. Almost halfway through the season, Prescott is rated #3. It's actually really easy to make the argument right now.

What are these adjusted stats you speak of

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

That Dak is a better passer of the football than Romo, is better at seeing the field, reading defenses and making presnap adustments?

OK then. Go ahead and EXPLICITLY make that argument. Say Dak passes better, sees the field better, read defenses better than Romo.

You can't do any of those things when you can't be on the field because you're always hurt. Ball game.

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

What are these adjusted stats you speak of

DVOA and DYAR.

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

What are you talking about? He directly refuted your responses. If you want to have a civil discussion I would start with being intellectually honest and addressing his refutations.

He read and acknowledged what you wrote after all.

Stating an opinion is not refutation. Moving from arm strength to the "whole package" is exactly a pivot. We apparently need a thesaurus tab on here.

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

Waving at efficiency stats and ignoring the aggregate is fun but reeks of confirmation bias to me.

Totally sniffing at multiple advanced stats in favor of worn out sports radio cliches does the same thing.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Totally sniffing at multiple advanced stats in favor of worn out sports radio cliches does the same thing.

yardage is an advanced stat? I don't listen to sports radio certainly not the DFW variety. You cannot even address what is being said directly.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

DVOA and DYAR.

Which are efficiency stats that are based on yardage with situational caveats applied. Again ignoring the aggregate is fun but reeks of confirmation bias.

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

yardage is an advanced stat? I don't listen to sports radio certainly not the DFW variety. You cannot even address what is being said directly.

I did, you just don't know how to counter the numbers other than to say "wrong". And there's way more to it than yardage. Situations are also factored in along with who they're playing. The numbers speak for themselves, and quite loud and clear. As far as DFW radio, it's the only relevant radio regarding Dallas sports. We don't care what the outer realms of the empire think. At all.