I don't know if Romo survives that game

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Arm strength was an issue in college, genius. How about going back and actually watching some games? This criticism didn't come out of thin air.

Also, in terms of random noodle arm, he compares to Tebow. Having high school level footwork is in Kap territory.

Decision making and talent were also discussed when he was in college. But funny thing is there are more people saying he was the only talent on those teams.

Joe Montana did not have a cannon for arm strength.

And the fact Dak couldn't step into quite a few throws and was throwing off his back foot most of the night, it would stand to reason he was not getting the usual zip on the ball. But I guess all those ex players who have stated this yesterday on the sports talk channels must be wrong.
 

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LOL those are your facts?

I love your "Toughest opponents" nonsense. What a cherry pick. You even admit you were putting the loss on Romo in one of your cherry picks, so why exactly are you putting it on there?

You never drop facts. You cherry pick, ramble, and then run and hide like you're claiming you'll be doing here now.

Romo's toughest games in 2007 were these games

First New York Giants game - 128.5
New England game - 91.0
First Philly game - 141.7
Second New York Giants game - 123.1
First Commanders game - 124.1
Green Bay - 123.5
Second Philly game - 22.5
Third Giants game - 64.7

Also, your blitz pickup nonsense is the worst. There is a difference when it's an all-out blitz and there aren't enough guys to block everyone or you have to rely on a RB or fullback to pick up a blitz. That happened in the Giants game, that is not on Romo, Romo gave his fullback a blocking assignment and he failed.



 

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I know what you mean.
But...I don't know they blitz as much and for as long if Romo was in the game.
He would have changed the plays at the line and backed them off that blitz.
like he did in 2015 game he got hurt in???? lol tony isnt a magician.
philly would have blitzed him too.
 

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I'm saying, it's like no one cares about the long term health of Tony Romo. His fans say their his fans, but they're willing to sacrifice him for the sake of a game. I think the fact that Dak is doing good is actually saving Romo from himself.
it is, at the very least he has time to heal up better.
 

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Also, your blitz pickup nonsense is the worst. There is a difference when it's an all-out blitz and there aren't enough guys to block everyone or you have to rely on a RB or fullback to pick up a blitz. That happened in the Giants game, that is not on Romo, Romo gave his fullback a blocking assignment and he failed.

Romo's fault, not Romo's fault for failing to pick up blitz isn't as important as the undeniable fact that Romo CAN and WILL BE blitzed and all it takes is one missed blocking assignment for him to be laying on the turf again. This was demonstrated in the eagles game last year where he received excellent protection throughout the game, and one clean hit put him back on the sidelines. This would have been the outcome Subday. Romo probably plays well and then sometime in the second or third quarter a linebacker breaks through and its lights out again for Tony.
 

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like he did in 2015 game he got hurt in???? lol tony isnt a magician.
philly would have blitzed him too.
Since philly had an entirely different coaching staff in 2015 and now has Jim Schwartz who doesn't like to Blitz it's not even a clever attempt at a comparison.

I guess when Schwartz said he was going to come after Dak because they felt he performed worse under pressure he was just joking around?
 

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Since philly had an entirely different coaching staff in 2015 and now has Jim Schwartz who doesn't like to Blitz it's not even a clever attempt at a comparison.

I guess when Schwartz said he was going to come after Dak because they felt he performed worse under pressure he was just joking around?
any qb does worse under pressure.

my point was Romo cant read off a blitz or pressure. If they are coming and you drop back, you get the pressure.
 

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any qb does worse under pressure.

my point was Romo cant read off a blitz or pressure. If they are coming and you drop back, you get the pressure.
There is a difference between blitz pressure and natural pressure... If you believe in pressure at all cost because you feel the QB won't make you pay dearly for the blitz then you turn them loose..if you are playing against Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Romo and a few others then you hope you can get natural non blitz pressure. Sending extra guys gets you beat more than it helps you.

So it's inaccurate to assume that teams would blitz Romo as much as Dak.
 

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There is a difference between blitz pressure and natural pressure... If you believe in pressure at all cost because you feel the QB won't make you pay dearly for the blitz then you turn them loose..if you are playing against Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Romo and a few others then you hope you can get natural non blitz pressure. Sending extra guys gets you beat more than it helps you.

So it's inaccurate to assume that teams would blitz Romo as much as Dak.
Well the truth is it is all speculation as to what would have happened if Romo played.
We dont know and never will.
could have been good and or bad.
 

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Romo's fault, not Romo's fault for failing to pick up blitz isn't as important as the undeniable fact that Romo CAN and WILL BE blitzed and all it takes is one missed blocking assignment for him to be laying on the turf again. This was demonstrated in the eagles game last year where he received excellent protection throughout the game, and one clean hit put him back on the sidelines. This would have been the outcome Subday. Romo probably plays well and then sometime in the second or third quarter a linebacker breaks through and its lights out again for Tony.

To the post I was responding to, it WAS important. Yes, he will be blized, no ****. An assignment will be missed. Will he get injured? Who knows, I'm not in the business of predicting injuries. For all I know, Dak could blow out a knee like RGIII in a few weeks.
 

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Decision making and talent were also discussed when he was in college. But funny thing is there are more people saying he was the only talent on those teams.

Joe Montana did not have a cannon for arm strength.

And the fact Dak couldn't step into quite a few throws and was throwing off his back foot most of the night, it would stand to reason he was not getting the usual zip on the ball. But I guess all those ex players who have stated this yesterday on the sports talk channels must be wrong.

No one is saying his footwork wasn't great, I have even stated this. I'm talking about throws where he DID step into them and they fluttered, specifically to Williams where it dropped 4 yards in front of him. This was not a footwork problem, this was a Dak inconsistent arm problem.
 

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No one is saying his footwork wasn't great, I have even stated this. I'm talking about throws where he DID step into them and they fluttered, specifically to Williams where it dropped 4 yards in front of him. This was not a footwork problem, this was a Dak inconsistent arm problem.

I think you might rewatch the game.
 

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Philly has history a of blitzing Romo, as matter of fact all NFC East teams like to bring it against Tony. Teams aren't going to sit back against Tony when he returns, that's why he isn't being rushed back this year. Dak has given the team and Tony valuable time, but rest assured, this is a show me you can do it league. Teams don't care what Tony has done in the past, he's going to have to come back and prove he can take the hits and deliver the ball. I hope he can still do it, it would only help the team if Dak were to go down.
 

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Teams know Romo isn't that mobile anymore. They would be crazy not to blitz.
Thank you, why is everyone acting as if NFC East teams have been afraid to blitz Romo, they will blitz him until the day he retires, why? because they know he is injury prone, and that he can't move as well as he used to. If Tony can make them pay then so be it, but teams are not going to be afraid of him, they never have.
 

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Thank you, why is everyone acting as if NFC East teams have been afraid to blitz Romo, they will blitz him until the day he retires, why? because they know he is injury prone, and that he can't move as well as he used to. If Tony can make them pay then so be it, but teams are not going to be afraid
of him, they never have.

They have always blitz Romo because n they know like any other qb he will rattle.
 

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Making my game film from this weeks game, I'm being struck by just how easily we could have lost this game.

The 10 point swing from Dak's interception in the end zone, and then in the second half TWill keeping Dak from ending ANOTHER long drive with an end zone pick by hitting the defender in position to make the interception. Twill saved 3 crucial points right there.

McKelvin being in perfect position for an interception and just dropping it.

The fact the officiating crew's incompetence handed the Eagles 6 first half points on 2 FG's that should have never been kicked.

Without the defense getting that crucial 4th quarter turnover on the fumble, and then holding the Eagles scoreless on their next three drives, we lose this game.

Dak finally put it together late, but we need to recognize the defense kept us in this game long enough for that to happen.
 

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Making my game film from this weeks game, I'm being struck by just how easily we could have lost this game.

The 10 point swing from Dak's interception in the end zone, and then in the second half TWill keeping Dak from ending ANOTHER long drive with an end zone pick by hitting the defender in position to make the interception. Twill saved 3 crucial points right there.

McKelvin being in perfect position for an interception and just dropping it.

The fact the officiating crew's incompetence handed the Eagles 6 first half points on 2 FG's that should have never been kicked.

Without the defense getting that crucial 4th quarter turnover on the fumble, and then holding the Eagles scoreless on their next three drives, we lose this game.

Dak finally put it together late, but we need to recognize the defense kept us in this game long enough for that to happen.

This is not lost on all of us. Dak was terrible for most of the game but played at his greatest when needed the most. The guy is a winner, you can't teach that.

The TD to Dez was a bad throw and Dak could have thrown two game deciding INT's aside from the Dez TD.

I love Dak and want to see nothing other than his success. I want to see him never relinquish the job back to Romo. In order to do that, he has to improve his mechanics, specifically his footwork.

With that said, I still feel our best bet in the playoffs is with Romo leading the way. Of course, this is assuming he is good to go health/shape wise.

I would rather roll with Dak over an 80% Romo but if he is in prime shape....seems like an easy decision to me to make the switch when ready.

I like both QB's and will ride or die with either. I have been saying that I don't think Dak is ready for a playoff run when defenses will be the focus. We have a shot this year, why not roll with the guy who has proven that he can beat top-notch defense and offenses?

I know, I know.....Romo is older now with more injuries and I agree with that. This all hinges on if he gets 110% ready and in game shape.
 
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