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I did the same thing with an Apple email and they responded to me. Whoever crafted that email was good, had it looking really authentic, just asked questions that set off the alarm.
The PayPal one was good too, except one part of the grammar was wrong. I think they said "if someone use your credit card..." or something like that.
 

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If it's not fear than tell me what it is.
What part of its proven to fail don't you understand?

You can freely explain what you want in place for this "beyond utopia" to happen, but it sounds like forced slavery to me to get people to hand out for others.

If youre referring to AI and machines to take care of us, how exactly do we enjoy and spend our lives? Since you present the this new version utopia I'll let you break it down instead of me just guessing.
 

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its proven throughout history to fail.
History is the climbing of a mountian, we are not at the base of the mountian anymore, you seem to think we are not climbing. If we are not climbing than how did we get here?
 

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We've gotten off the Rev's path which is really how do people that screw other people over live with themselves. Whether that's scamming them out of money or having an affair with another person's spouse. I've often wondered how someone could do that, mess with another person's life like that and often they know the person.

We all draw our own lines in that sand that we will not cross. There are laws for all of us but don't we bend them? I drive over the speed limit, that's a law, I try not to get caught. But you know what? If going over the speed limit was 1 day of jail per mile over, I wouldn't speed. I can handle the fine, it's just money.

However, I do not drink and drive and that's not because I think I can't handle a couple of drinks and the wheel. The state of Texas has made a first offense DUI so harsh that that deters me. I had an employee go through hell for a year and fork over over 20K for his first offense. That's a deterrent but I do not know the stats about the effect of that on other people. Has that prevented more DUI's? I would hope so as that was the intent.
 

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What part of its proven to fail don't you understand?

You can freely explain what you want in place for this "beyond utopia" to happen, but it sounds like forced slavery to me to get people to hand out for others.

If youre referring to AI and machines to take care of us, how exactly do we enjoy and spend our lives? Since you present the this new version utopia I'll let you break it down instead of me just guessing.
I won't type that much information and you most likley won't open your eyes in the end anyway. So here is a video 48 minutes long that will stratch the surface for you but not tell the whole story, for the whole story you will need to do much research on your own. The problem is not in what i tell you, the problem is you have been condintioned since birth and that conditioning won't disappear overnight.
 

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Hey, they told me to do it! Lol
I am still waiting for my 2M when that stranded doctor in India gets out and all he needed was 10K. 10K to get 2M? Please, don't ask me who the smart one is. I have been on the lookout for more stranded doctors, I am going to be filthy rich!!
 

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We've gotten off the Rev's path which is really how do people that screw other people over live with themselves. Whether that's scamming them out of money or having an affair with another person's spouse. I've often wondered how someone could do that, mess with another person's life like that and often they know the person.

We all draw our own lines in that sand that we will not cross. There are laws for all of us but don't we bend them? I drive over the speed limit, that's a law, I try not to get caught. But you know what? If going over the speed limit was 1 day of jail per mile over, I wouldn't speed. I can handle the fine, it's just money.

However, I do not drink and drive and that's not because I think I can't handle a couple of drinks and the wheel. The state of Texas has made a first offense DUI so harsh that that deters me. I had an employee go through hell for a year and fork over over 20K for his first offense. That's a deterrent but I do not know the stats about the effect of that on other people. Has that prevented more DUI's? I would hope so as that was the intent.
Its sad at how many duis there are a year just in the US that speaks volumes for character and morals. And this isnt even counting those that don't get caught.
 

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I won't type that much information and you most likley won't open your eyes in the end anyway. So here is a video 48 minutes long that will stratch the surface for you but not tell the whole story, for the whole story you will need to do much research on your own. The problem is not in what i tell you, the problem is you have been condintioned since birth and that conditioning won't disappear overnight.

I'll watch but don't say I've been conditioned. No school, work, friends, family has ever said "utopia bad" or broke it down to a lesser extent. But I have learned about previous utopias from extreme viewpoints such as yours.
 

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I'll watch but don't say I've been conditioned. No school, work, friends, family has ever said "utopia bad" or broke it down to a lesser extent. But I have learned about previous utopias from extreme viewpoints such as yours.
We are all conditioned from birth some notice it and some don't, it wasn't meant to be personal. I never heard of any utopia that has existed on earth. Atlantis? Did that even exist, i'm not sure.
 

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We are all conditioned from birth some notice it and some don't, it wasn't meant to be personal. I never heard of any utopia that has existed on earth. Atlantis? Did that even exist, i'm not sure.
People conditioned at birth just like people are conditioned today to act and behave in ways the media wants (cant say more due to rules)

I said id watch your video, all I ask of you is to google search "why utopias fail". Maybe I'm reaching, but I get the sense you're awfully young. And no this doesn't mean I'm awfully old lol
 

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Its sad at how many duis there are a year just in the US that speaks volumes for character and morals. And this isnt even counting those that don't get caught.
I knew a person, someone I considered a good person, that had an accident while she registered in the DUI range when they administered the test. A father of 3 was dead on the scene and not only was that family devastated but so was the person's I knew as she took her own life because she couldn't live with herself.

I hate to admit it but I've gotten behind the wheel when I shouldn't have and even put the love of my life and strangers on the road at risk because I thought I could handle it. After that event, I asked myself how I would handle what happened to her. I won't even take a sip and get behind the wheel. But it took that to get my attention.
 

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People conditioned at birth just like people are conditioned today to act and behave in ways the media wants (cant say more due to rules)

I said id watch your video, all I ask of you is to google search "why utopias fail". Maybe I'm reaching, but I get the sense you're awfully young. And no this doesn't mean I'm awfully old lol
Tell me what Utopia you're referring to. Like i said in my last post i never heard of any Utopia that has existed. I wish i was young.
 

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I knew a person, someone I considered a good person, that had an accident while she registered in the DUI range when they administered the test. A father of 3 was dead on the scene and not only was that family devastated but so was the person's I knew as she took her own life because she couldn't live with herself.

I hate to admit it but I've gotten behind the wheel when I shouldn't have and even put the love of my life and strangers on the road at risk because I thought I could handle it. After that event, I asked myself how I would handle what happened to her. I won't even take a sip and get behind the wheel. But it took that to get my attention.
How nice it would've been if cars all simply drove themselves at that time. Yes there would probably still be accidents, but she would'nt have been guilty of something in her own mind and probably would've not have taken her own life. Maybe she would even be chatting with us now.
 

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One thing anyone should consider is the sometimes specific data accessible by scammers, such as frequency of target response. Scammers will even sell information containing a target's mail/email address, cellphone number, etc., detailing if-or-how often someone responds to a fake message even if their particular scam does not pay off for them.

Hmmmm.. it seems to me that @DallasEast is an internet savvy ‘presence’ who seems to know a lot about the inner workings of scams and scammers

Hmmmm........
 

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I knew a person, someone I considered a good person, that had an accident while she registered in the DUI range when they administered the test. A father of 3 was dead on the scene and not only was that family devastated but so was the person's I knew as she took her own life because she couldn't live with herself.

I hate to admit it but I've gotten behind the wheel when I shouldn't have and even put the love of my life and strangers on the road at risk because I thought I could handle it. After that event, I asked myself how I would handle what happened to her. I won't even take a sip and get behind the wheel. But it took that to get my attention.
I'm glad everything worked out for you and wish more changed sooner for the better. I often talk or think about it only takes one slip up to change a life. We hear about incidents, but sometimes it doesn't click until its experienced or seen.
 

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How nice it would've been if cars all simply drove themselves at that time. Yes there would probably still be accidents, but she would'nt have been guilty of something in her own mind and probably would've not have taken her own life. Maybe she would even be chatting with us now.
Probably not, she was a Niners fan like my wife. But you are right, the cop that talked to her sister told her that she really wasn't drunk just registering in the range for a DUI but there is a reason that's considered impairment.

In my years in radio, we participated in a lot of MADD and SADD event including the getting drunk on air to show the effects that even we don't realize. I usually had my morning guys do it but a couple of times I had people in recovery so I filled in. At one point, the doc in the studio played me back talking and I did not even realize I was beginning to slur my words. Which I told the doc that drinking impairs hearing as well as speech. She complimented me on being a funny drunk but not as funny as I thought I was, no drunk is. The last time I did it, we had a guy call in and I was pretty loose and he said "hey, I don't want him driving but I do want to party with him".

One thing that codgers like me don't take into account, how our bodies change with the assimilation of alcohol into our system just with age and just the danger of a fall increases. That last time I did it, I was amazed at the effect on my motor skills during the tests she was putting me through and I was aware of what I was trying to do. I was trying to beat the test. Off the air she told me that alcohol consumption, along with prescription meds, is by far the #1 cause of falls with senior citizens and broken bones and joints.

Back when I was a young wolf and could howl at the moon all night I wasn't taking a bunch of meds. You whippersnappers, take heed and enjoy your youth and 40's is youth to me, hell 50's, because if you live long enough, you will be smack dab square in the middle of where I never thought I'd be. I'm like that guy, "if I'd known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself". And I am a pretty healthy old guy surrounded by people that make me go "there but by the Grace of God go I" every single time I get out amongst them.

Funny what I remember my parents saying "you got your health, you've got it all". I scoffed at that, they're old people, what do they know? Amazing how much wiser you can become just listening and remaining silent until it is your time to spout OPL, Old Person's Logic. I don't know why but I always thought my parents advice was because they hadn't made the mistakes I was about to try out.

Sorry about the straying but us old folks get to do this. At least I ain't cyber drooling and asking where my pajama bottoms are.
 
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