I Feel Very Sorry for Coach Parcells

Juke99

...Abbey someone
Messages
22,279
Reaction score
126
It's a combination of things.

I don't think the assistant coaches are doing a great job.

The players have to own their lousy play...and STUPID plays...and undisciplined plays.

Fortunately, that MORON Owens didn't cost the team with his antics in the endzone...talk about undisciplined..and NOTE, not one player got in his face for it. Bad sign.

Also, I know, I know, I don't like Parcells...but these are HIS guys on the field now. So he does have to take some blame even though the talent level is clearly better...uh, although I will say, we have overhyped this defense. They still can't get consistent pressure on the QB.


And I am still sticking to my guns that Ellis is NOT playing as well as we'd like to believe. He often looks like a DE playing LB. He simply doesn't have the athleticism needed for OLB.
 

Juke99

...Abbey someone
Messages
22,279
Reaction score
126
Alexander;1143046 said:
It wasn't good.

But most highly charged divisional games are not.

I certainly hope your intent isn't to blame this loss on poor officiating.


On the nosey.
 

ghst187

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,722
Reaction score
11,572
summerisfunner;1143074 said:
yeah, Parcells tells the players to drop passes/INTs, not to sustain their blocks on FG attempts :rolleyes:

and BP preaches about limiting mistakes, he lives and breathes playing smart football, it's obvious the players aren't receiving the message, and aren't applying it

players that are well coached and disciplined professionals, do the things they are supposed to do
 

Rack

Federal Agent
Messages
23,906
Reaction score
3,106
Alexander;1143046 said:
It wasn't good.

But most highly charged divisional games are not.

I certainly hope your intent isn't to blame this loss on poor officiating.

They were a big part of it.


Let's face it, refs/officiating are part of the game, and therefore can and DO have an impact on the game.

They did today. Especially that BS 15 yard facemask call. That DIRECTLY cost us the game.
 

jman

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,766
Reaction score
25
Originally Posted by jman
Only one play call was terrible...The two point conversion.

We kick the extra point...we win!

DB.COOPER;1143064 said:
if this if that.will take us no where . we lost becouse our players did not play with an urgency like last week

The extra point comment was in response to the "bad" play calling...not saying it was the reason we lost.
 

AdamJT13

Salary Cap Analyst
Messages
16,583
Reaction score
4,529
Rack;1142935 said:
It's only the ignorant people that blame the coach/qb.

In some cases, that's true. For example, they blame the playcalling when a lack of execution is a bigger problem.

However, Parcells does deserve some of the blame today for his coaching decisions. He could have challenged the safety, but he didn't. If he's right, it saves points and we keep the ball. If he's wrong, all we lose is a first-half timeout. He also chose to go for two early in the game, which ended up being extremely costly. Even if we had made it, the Commanders still could have won with a field goal at the end. That early in the game, it just isn't worth risking a 99-percent chance at one point for a chance at two points.

Along with the penalties and missed blocks and dropped passes and blocked field goal, etc., Parcells' decisions -- not the team's execution of his decisions -- are a significant reason we lost.
 

Doomsday

Rising Star
Messages
20,224
Reaction score
16,866
Rack;1143013 said:
That wasn't even a safety. That was yet ANOTHER screw up by the refs. Look at the replay. JuJo lands ON marshall, then reaches OVER the goalline.


This is easily one of the top 3 worst officiated games I've ever seen. Period.


And the officiating is getting worse every year. Pretty soon we'll be on par with the freakin' NBA.

The officiating wasnt great but good teams dont leave games in the hands of the officials they go out and execute. This team continues to make costly mistakes and cant take advantage of opportunities they have to seize control of the game. Roy Williams and TO are suppose to be our best offensive and defensive players and both blew easy catches that would of turned this game into a win.
 

Bob Sacamano

Benched
Messages
57,084
Reaction score
3
Juke99;1143092 said:
Also, I know, I know, I don't like Parcells...but these are HIS guys on the field now.

yeah, sure, but he shouldn't have to baby-sit them every, freakin' day, BP is preaching the same thing he's been preaching for years, some people just aren't getting the message, somewhere down the line, accountability needs to be taken by these players

this is what has really plagued the 'boys, for years, it seems our players always need a swift kick up the rear to get motivated and execute like they've been taught, either it be BP screaming and yelling, or getting their arses kicked on the field, or just flat out losing a game they should won
 

Bob Sacamano

Benched
Messages
57,084
Reaction score
3
ghst187;1143127 said:
players that are well coached and disciplined professionals, do the things they are supposed to do

exactly, but they aren't

so are you telling me BP doesn't strive for discipline? please dont' tell me that's what you're saying
 

CantonBound08

Member
Messages
610
Reaction score
1
bigbadroy;1142906 said:
the playcalling was terrible. screw parcells

Umm okay. Typically 26 points is enough to win a ball game. That would have been our score if TO would have caught the ball. I think receivers are supposed to receive the ball. I could be wrong.

jman;1142927 said:
Only one play call was terrible...The two point conversion.

We kick the extra point...we win!

I didn't mind this so much. If we kick the extra point, I'm sure Washington goes for two later...if they get it, guess what...tie game. I don't mind being aggressive. Hard to say on this call. I wouldn't have minded going up by three points there.

ghst187;1142964 said:
Its very easy to blame the coaching because the players are a reflection of the coaching. We make too many penalties...obviously we're not very disciplined.
We can't make a play when it counts, because the coaching is too tentative.
Bill Parcells is EXACTLY the person to blame.
The only thing he's done right this year has been to bench Bledslow.
Other than that, Parcells needs fired. Losses like this are inexcusable, esp with our talent level.
I firmly believe that Sean Payton would have us sitting at 7-1.

Yep, completely on Parcell's. I saw Bill jump offsides many many times. I also saw him hold a couple of times, drop an int, a sure td, and forget to block a defender on a FG attempt. It is all Parcell's fault.
 

BlueStar22

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,192
Reaction score
3,938
However, Parcells does deserve some of the blame today for his coaching decisions. He could have challenged the safety, but he didn't.
Parcells said in his postgame press conference that the folks upstairs told him that Jones knee "DEFINITELY" was down. That's why he didn't challenge.
 

TNCowboy

Double Trouble
Messages
10,701
Reaction score
3,209
CanadianCowboysFan;1143164 said:
No we don't, we lose by two.
Well, the game might've played out entirely different, but if we had the lead there at the end, we wouldn't have even been attempting a FG. Romo would've fallen on it and that would have been the game.
 

Da Hammer

The Natural
Messages
10,604
Reaction score
1
Parcells needs to go, i know its not all his fault but its obvious the players just dont respond to him or just dont listen because the team continues to make the same mistakes over and over and over again that we made 3 years ago when he got here
 

Juke99

...Abbey someone
Messages
22,279
Reaction score
126
summerisfunner;1143165 said:
yeah, sure, but he shouldn't have to baby-sit them every, freakin' day, BP is preaching the same thing he's been preaching for years, some people just aren't getting the message, somewhere down the line accountability needs to be taken by these players

this is what has really plagued the 'boys, for years, it seems our players always need a swift kick up the rear to get motivated and execute like they've been taught, either it be BP screaming and yelling, or getting their arses kicked on the field, or just flat out losing a game they should have won



ya know, I have a customer/friend who was a ref at Giant practices for YEARS. When Parcells first took over the Giants, they were the most penalized team in the league. SO, he came up with an idea to change that. He had refs call penalties in practice. AND it worked.

He can talk about it all he likes. It's gotta change.
 

AdamJT13

Salary Cap Analyst
Messages
16,583
Reaction score
4,529
Doomsday;1143153 said:
Roy Williams and TO are suppose to be our best offensive and defensive players and both blew easy catches that would of turned this game into a win.

Roy's drop wouldn't have won the game. The score was tied, the Commanders didn't score on that possession, and our offense couldn't score on the three possessions it had after that.
 

Jon88

Benched
Messages
7,665
Reaction score
0
We need a catalyst on defense. Shawn Merriman would have helped. Instead we get Demarcus Ware, who's more silent than Larry Allen.

This is his team. He picked the players and the coaching staff.
 

ghst187

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,722
Reaction score
11,572
CantonBound08;1143194 said:
Yep, completely on Parcell's. I saw Bill jump offsides many many times. I also saw him hold a couple of times, drop an int, a sure td, and forget to block a defender on a FG attempt. It is all Parcell's fault.


well when it happens week in and week out...its more than just a few players, its endemic which = coaching and discipline
 

Bob Sacamano

Benched
Messages
57,084
Reaction score
3
Juke99;1143223 said:
He can talk about it all he likes. It's gotta change.

and you don't see the problem here? he's talking, yet noone's listening

idk, but I think it's time BP stop baby-sitting these players, and they start taking responsibility
 

wileedog

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,356
Reaction score
2,393
Jon88;1143240 said:
We need a catalyst on defense. Shawn Merriman would have helped. Instead we get Demarcus Ware, who's more silent than Larry Allen.

How would Merriman have helped when he was busy being suspended for steroids?
 
Top