I guess Jerry will hire Stoops now

[Aikbach]

Not a Stoops apologist but a realist. The reality is that Boise St. in addition to other teams were better than Oklahoma. OU lucked out in that they play in the Big 12. It just made it worse that they were put in a very bad situation.

Also, if you are going to pretend to be an intelligent and objecitve writer, try to include the fact he won a national championship with another coaches players. That team had arguably slightly more talent if not similar talent to the one he had tonight and he basically shut out Florida St. if not the voluntary safety they took.

The Big 12 was unusually weak this year, especially for the South division of the conference.

This was the worst Texas team of the decade perhaps, Texas tech was up and down, A&M looked stronger than they were because of the padded pre-conference schedule.

Usually Big 12 champions emerge battle tested.

He has succeeded in the past and I doubt my qualities as a forum poster hinge on your opinion of my unimpressed take on that fact.

He has since been out recruited by his arch rivals at times and certainly outcoached in big games.

 

[Natedawg44]

Jesus will any of you give Boise State some fricking respect. Its not like they are Baylor or anything they are 13-0 and blew out Oregon State who beat the mighty Trojans.

 

[Aikbach]

Jesus will any of you give Boise State some fricking respect. Its not like they are Baylor or anything they are 13-0 and blew out Oregon State who beat the mighty Trojans.

BSU is good, but Stoops is the topic of discussion here.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

So what you are saying is that he is the modern day Barry Switzer of college football?

Except that John Blake didn't win 2 national championships before Stoops arrived

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Jesus will any of you give Boise State some fricking respect. Its not like they are Baylor or anything they are 13-0 and blew out Oregon State who beat the mighty Trojans.

Well said! Boise St. is a great team and much underappreciated. Sure Paul Thompson threw those 3 interceptions but after than OU played well. It's just that Bosie St. played better. Why does there always have to be a bad guy. Sometimes, two teams play well but one team played better. OU played hard in my opinion. I give Boise St. a lot of props. OU showed a lot more heart than the Cowboys have the last 2 games.

 

[Aikbach]

Except that John Blake didn't win 2 national championships before Stoops arrived

No but he did recruit well, look at Texas A&M, they get fantastic recruiting but they have a meathead for a headcoach.

I won't degrade Stoops to the role of Franchione but he has something to prove before investing in him. Remember Steve Spurrior's reputation was to make him the most coveted of the college coaching prospcects for years until Snyder convinced him he could run a Florida passing attack manned by any Tom, Dick, Harry or Danny Weurfel against an NFL defense.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

No but he did recruit well, look at Texas A&M, they get fantastic recruiting but they have a meathead for a headcoach.

I won't degrade Stoops to the role of Franchione but he has something to prove before investing in him. Remember Steve Spurrior's reputation was to make him the most coveted of the college coaching prospcects for years until Snyder convinced him he could run a Florida passing attack manned by any Tom, Dick, Harry or Danny Weurfel against an NFL defense.

He didin't recruit well. That's an excuse. Even their starting QB, Josh Heupel, was an undersized junior college transfer with a weak arm. Stoops had to convert RB's to receivers because they lacked depth at receiver.

I agree with what you are saying. Stoops is an excellent college coach but that means nothing in the NFL. It's a different game. Look at Nick Saban and the Dolphins. I would prefer a talented NFL offensive minded assistant.

 

[Aikbach]

He didin't recruit well. That's an excuse. Even their starting QB, Josh Heupel, was an undersized junior college transfer with a weak arm. Stoops had to convert RB's to receivers because they lacked depth at receiver.

I agree with what you are saying. Stoops is an excellent college coach but that means nothing in the NFL. It's a different game. Look at Nick Saban and the Dolphins. I would prefer a talented NFL offensive minded assistant.

I won't argue with you, you've made up your mind that he is the answer so I'll leave you to that opinion.

I just think there are better options.

 

[Natedawg44]

BSU is good, but Stoops is the topic of discussion here.

So he lost to a 13-0 Team in an all time classic. Suddenly he can't coach? He won the big 12 with a converted WR at QB. He's won a national championship. How many national championships does Les Miles have? Jeff Tedford? Charlie Weis? Oklahoma was abyssmal until his arrival and he is one of the better coaches in the college ranks no matter how you spin it. We are a little too egocentric here as well. Why would he want to coach the Dallas Cowboys and deal with a meddling owner to boot? He's born and raised an Ohio guy who has turned down Ohio State and the Browns not to mention Florida as well.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I won't argue with you, you've made up your mind that he is the answer so I'll leave you to that opinion.

Proof that you didnt even read my response. Go back junior and read the last line. We are in agreement. I dont' want Stoops but I some of the criticism of him is unfounded.

 

[Aikbach]

So he lost to a 13-0 Team in an all time classic. Suddenly he can't coach? He won the big 12 with a converted WR at QB. He's won a national championship. How many national championships does Les Miles have? Jeff Tedford? Charlie Weis? Oklahoma was abyssmal until his arrival and he is one of the better coaches in the college ranks no matter how you spin it. We are a little too egocentric here as well. Why would he want to coach the Dallas Cowboys and deal with a meddling owner to boot? He's born and raised an Ohio guy who has turned down Ohio State and the Browns not to mention Florida as well.

Lou Holtz has national championships would you like him too? Were you a Barry Switzer fan? Wanna go after Bobby Bowden while you're at it? How about Mack Brown?

He's a good college coach but he has not performed to the enormous expectations required of him and they will be even bigger as a head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[Natedawg44]

Proof that you didnt even read my response. Go back junior and read the last line. We are in agreement. I dont' want Stoops but I some of the criticism of him is unfounded.

So everyone is in agreement. We don't want Stoops. Not that it matters because he probably doesn't want to coach the Dallas Cowboys anyway.

 

[Natedawg44]

Lou Holtz has national championships would you like him too? Were you a Barry Switzer fan? Wanna go after Bobby Bowden while you're at it? How about Mack Brown?

He's a good college coach but he has not perfomred to the enormous expectations required of him and they will be even bigger as a head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

Did I ever say I wanted to have him as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys?

 

[Natedawg44]

Lou Holtz has national championships would you like him too? Were you a Barry Switzer fan? Wanna go after Bobby Bowden while you're at it? How about Mack Brown?

He's a good college coach but he has not performed to the enormous expectations required of him and they will be even bigger as a head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

As far as the others we will see after next weekend. I hope we win but if we don't, hey Switzer will have more playoff wins as a Cowboys Coach than Parcells and Lou Holtz, Bobby Bowden and Mack Brown will have just as many.

 

[Aikbach]

Did I ever say I wanted to have him as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys?

No, I wasn't pointing to you specifically although I did accidently click on your post. The folly of multi-tasking, i think it is pretty well understood Stoops and any so-called national championship coaches aren't likely the answer in Dallas.

 

[Natedawg44]

No, I wasn't pointing to you specifically although I did accidently click on your post. The folly of multi-tasking, i think it is pretty well understood Stoops and any so-called national championship coaches aren't likely the answer in Dallas.

Personally if Parcells leaves I want Jeff Tedford and one of the Ryan Brothers to run the Defense.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Lou Holtz has national championships would you like him too? Were you a Barry Switzer fan? Wanna go after Bobby Bowden while you're at it? How about Mack Brown?

He's a good college coach but he has not performed to the enormous expectations required of him and they will be even bigger as a head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

This is funny. He was hired in 1999. Since then he was won a National Championship, been to 2 National Championship games, a Rose Bowl and a Fiesta Bowl......and it's not like he took over Miami or Florida. OU was in the dumps and had lost to Baylor once under John Blake.

I don't mind someone saying we shouldn't hire him because the NFL is a different game as college success doesn't necessarily translate to success in the NFL. But for someone to say that he has not performed to the enormous expectations required of him is ridiculous.

 

[Cochese]

Personally if Parcells leaves I want Jeff Tedford and one of the Ryan Brothers to run the Defense.

I agree with the Ryan call, but the last person I want around my quarterback is Jeff Tedford.

 

[Natedawg44]

I agree with the Ryan call, but the last person I want around my quarterback is Jeff Tedford.

They are good when he is around. Its when they go away that is the problem.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I don't want a puppet like Dave Campo but I wouldn't mind if Dallas was off the radar by hiring a humble and "under-the-radar" assistant NFL coach like the Eagles did with Andy Reid. We need to go back to basics. We need a coach who can draft and coach offensive lineman. I think we are too defensive minded. We really need some coaches who can coach fundamental offense not gimmicky or tricky offenses. Guys who can do the basics like teaching guys how to block properly.