Who's the QB with the most help

[LonnieElam]

This thread should have been titled "Cowboys fans are stupid", and it would have been accurate.

 

[CCBoy]

This thread should have been titled "Cowboys fans are stupid", and it would have been accurate.

An opinion, now tell us if the Cowboys will win and why... I'm betting success for the season.

 

[Big D]

Burrow gets the crap beat out of him, game after game. That team would be garbage without him

You take Chase off that team and everything changes.

 

[thunderpimp91]

But why does the worst defense led by Joe Burrow have same numbers TDs in the 4th QTRs of Playoff games?

Not sure I understand what you're saying...the Bengals didnt make the playoffs last season?

 

[CCBoy]

Tyler Guyton 6'7" 322

Tyler Smith 6'6" 332

Cooper Beebe 6'4" 335

Tyler Booker 6'4" 321

Terence Steele 6'6" 310

 

[GINeric]

Counterpoint

AJ Brown in 3 years on the Titans: 0 All-Pros

AJ Brown in 3 years playing with Hurts: 3 All-Pros

Now let's ask ourselves this..... did Brown have better coaching and overall roster talent in Tennessee or in Philly? There's your answer.

 

[GINeric]

but he deserve it. he has one more win in the playoffs than Dak.

Trent Dilfer has won a Superbowl and Marino and Kelly didn't. Kaepernick has led his team to a Superbowl and Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen hasn't.

According to what you're saying, Dilfer deserves more respect than Marino and Kelly.... and Kaepernick deserves more respect that Jackson and Allen, correct?

 

[GINeric]

I don't know about the accuracy of this list but in my opinion the QB that needed the most help was Dak Prescott. He can't do anything by himself. His legs have failed him, and he needs a WR with a wide receiving radius. Pickens should be a great help to Dak.

What quarterback outside of Mahomes and Brady doesn't need help? Again, it's called a team game for a reason.

Prime example.....

Matthew Stafford is like 17-70 vs winning teams. He didn't get a playoff win until his 12th or 13th season in the league. (If im wrong, I stand to be corrected)

The year he got a Superbowl ring with the Rams, he led the league in interceptions. With that said, 98% of NFL quarterbacks need help around them. Proof is in the pudding. Its called a TEAM game for a reason.

 

[ErikWilliamsHeadSlap]

Counterpoint

AJ Brown in 3 years on the Titans: 0 All-Pros

AJ Brown in 3 years playing with Hurts: 3 All-Pros

Counterpoint. Philly's media coverage much larger than Tennessee.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

[/QUOTE]
If I may, the above chart is ... redic.
Lads, they are in order, Hurts, Lamar J, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Jayden Daniels, Purdy, Stafford etc.

 

[Qcard]

Not sure I understand what you're saying...the Bengals didnt make the playoffs last season?

It means the Great Joe Burrow only has one 4th QTR TD in ALL his playoff starts.....

 

[kskboys]

What quarterback outside of Mahomes and Brady doesn't need help? Again, it's called a team game for a reason.

Prime example.....

Matthew Stafford is like 17-70 vs winning teams. He didn't get a playoff win until his 12th or 13th season in the league. (If im wrong, I stand to be corrected)

The year he got a Superbowl ring with the Rams, he led the league in interceptions. With that said, 98% of NFL quarterbacks need help around them. Proof is in the pudding. Its called a TEAM game for a reason.

And was 2nd in TD passes w/ 41. Don't cherry pick.

I do agree w/ you, though, any QB needs a D to win.

 

[kskboys]

The Ravens still depend heavily on Jackson which is why they falter in the playoffs. He’s having to play too much hero ball. If you contain him no one else steps up. Henry was held to 84 yards in the lost to Buffalo last season in the playoffs. He had almost 200 yards the previous week.

Or, Jackson is still a bit limited throwing the ball and playoff caliber Ds take away his running. Flowers and Bateman are studs, and Andrews is(was?) a great player.

Henry wasn't held to anything. You failed to mention that he had 84 yds on only 16 carries. Dude, that's 5.25 YPC. How in the world did you come up w/ "held to"? Why didn't Jackson give him the ball more? That's what you need to be asking.

 

[TwentyOne]

Well, we know who has the least help.

As a great surrounding team goes a long way for the TEAM.

Yeah do we?

Then tell us who it is and link the source instead of making Statements that are essentially only hot air.

Or cant we expect valuable infos from you?

 

[kskboys]

It is but they have some good players on defense so I don’t know why they are so bad.

I do. Because they let their stud DTs walk(Reader and Ogunjobi) and replaced them w/ JAGs. Why? So they could pay Chase and Joe and Tee. Ogunjobi and Reader were the reason the Bengals beat KC to make their super bowl. Held Mahomes to 3 second half points in the AFC champ game.

 

[kskboys]

Burrow? Allen?

Also, there has to be a better way of determining this ranking than this method.

Several.

 

[kskboys]

yeah its a starting point for the discussion, but pro bowls and all pros certainly dont tell the full story.

Not even close.

 

[gtb1943]

It means the Great Joe Burrow only has one 4th QTR TD in ALL his playoff starts.....

and how many has Dak thrown when it mattered?

 

[TwentyOne]

Interesting...........

What this list shows is that franchises are well aware of when they have a good QB. Then they invest in his supporting cast.

If they do have worthlessness at the position they save the money for what may come in the future.

In the meantime they let the rubbish tell heir fans that we are close and he is in the best shape of his mesningless life. Works well for mechandise sales.

 

[Qcard]

and how many has Dak thrown when it mattered?

Just as many as the Great Joe Burrow in 4th QTRs of playoff starts..... 1TD


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