I hate daylight savings time!

[dsturgeon]

If a plane levels out about 100 yards above the ocean and flies across the ocean, does it end up miles below or above the water depending on the direction?

 

[Runwildboys]

Is there a water level on long lakes, or they curve as well with the curvature equation and gravity?

They do curve, but if they're long enough for perceivable curvature, there's a horizon line. Still, I'd you were to shine a laser from one point to another point at equal altitude slightly above the water, at one point the center of the beam would touch the water while the ends stayed above it.

 

[Runwildboys]

If a plane levels out about 100 yards above the ocean and flies across the ocean, does it end up miles below or above the water depending on the direction?

Neither. The plane is level to the center of gravity, so no matter how far it travels, it's at the same altitude

 

[DasTex]

I like getting that extra hour next weekend. And I don't mind losing the hour in March because it's spring. lol Never really cared about it. I do have about a dozen clocks to set, but I don't mind that either.

That extra hour really works well with the opening of deer season in Texas too - love that extra hour.

 

[nobody]

Without looking it up, can you name a current telescope scientist that is teaching you about space, the full methods and data they have used in detail for their scientific discoveries, and the repeatable proof? Or is it all cgi videos, magazine clips, assumed established story narratives, and what ifs?

Having actually used telescopes that were pretty powerful, I've seen Saturn's rings. Knowing how they work, if it was all some sort of cgi and knowing the state of technology, I'd see pixelation with something that magnified. There's no pixelation. Go rent a telescope. Learn how it operates and how they work to magnify. Use it. THEN come back and spout all this stuff you're saying.

 

[dsturgeon]

Having actually used telescopes that were pretty powerful, I've seen Saturn's rings. Knowing how they work, if it was all some sort of cgi and knowing the state of technology, I'd see pixelation with something that magnified. There's no pixelation. Go rent a telescope. Learn how it operates and how they work to magnify. Use it. THEN come back and spout all this stuff you're saying.

I have seen saturns rings through a telescope too. It was a good memory on a boy scout trip when I was young.

It is amazing. Hubble on the right, lesser on on the left. My issue is not with stuff being there, it is the theories about it and everything else through observation.

 

[dsturgeon]

They do curve, but if they're long enough for perceivable curvature, there's a horizon line. Still, I'd you were to shine a laser from one point to another point at equal altitude slightly above the water, at one point the center of the beam would touch the water while the ends stayed above it.

I find it this stuff interesting. Our eye naturally alters our vision at a distance, and some of the newer cameras with powerful zoom can show the weaknesses in vision at a distance. Lighthouses can be seen from 20 to 30 miles away, and people have done the curvature math with the height of the light, and make claims that they shouldn't be seen. I haven't see it with pictures, diagrams, and with the math, but it is fun to think about

 

[Runwildboys]

I have seen saturns rings through a telescope too. It was a good memory on a boy scout trip when I was young.

It is amazing. Hubble on the right, lesser on on the left. My issue is not with stuff being there, it is the theories about it and everything else through observation.

Bear in mind, most scientists don't usually claim they know...or even if they say they know, what they mean is "this is the most likely explanation", and it's nearly certain.

 

[Runwildboys]

I find it this stuff interesting. Our eye naturally alters our vision at a distance, and some of the newer cameras with powerful zoom can show the weaknesses in vision at a distance. Lighthouses can be seen from 20 to 30 miles away, and people have done the curvature math with the height of the light, and make claims that they shouldn't be seen. I haven't see it with pictures, diagrams, and with the math, but it is fun to think about

The ones who think they've done the math right (and I've seen quite a few who make the claim) and say a certain object shouldn't be seen are dismissing the effects of atmospheric refraction, or sometimes not taking into account that their camera is several feet above the water level. For example, if you've ever seen the "Black Swan" photos, which some claim are proof that the horizon is farther than the math says it should be, what they fail to acknowledge is that the oil rigs in the photo are extremely distorted because of atmospheric refraction. This happens a lot over water because of the temperature of the water as compared to the air above it.

 

[dsturgeon]

The ones who think they've done the math right (and I've seen quite a few who make the claim) and say a certain object shouldn't be seen are dismissing the effects of atmospheric refraction, or sometimes not taking into account that their camera is several feet above the water level. For example, if you've ever seen the "Black Swan" photos, which some claim are proof that the horizon is farther than the math says it should be, what they fail to acknowledge is that the oil rigs in the photo are extremely distorted because of atmospheric refraction. This happens a lot over water because of the temperature of the water as compared to the air above it.

I googled searched the picture, I will look into it after I eat.

 

[dsturgeon]

Bear in mind, most scientists don't usually claim they know...or even if they say they know, what they mean is "this is the most likely explanation", and it's nearly certain.

I agree, most of those categories are labeled under theoretical. It is people that don't study in those field that believe it is fact because they heard it, watched an animation, or have 30 years of scifi in their memories.

 

[Runwildboys]

I agree, most of those categories are labeled under theoretical. It is people that don't study in those field that believe it is fact because they heard it, watched an animation, or have 30 years of scifi in their memories.

FYI, "theory" doesn't mean the same thing to scientists that it means to laypeople. What most people think of as theory is what scientists call hypothesis.

 

[dsturgeon]

FYI, "theory" doesn't mean the same thing to scientists that it means to laypeople. What most people think of as theory is what scientists call hypothesis.

Nice. I wonder how it is defined when theory is built upon theory, upon theory, theory, theory, theory, theory

 

[jnday]

Think it's more of an issue the further north you are. There's relatively often calls for it to be scrapped this side of the Atlantic, usually south of the border.
They ran a trial back when my parents were younger where they didn't change the clocks for a few years but didn't make it permanent as a result of the increased numbers of children being injured and killed on the way to school in the dark in the mornings.

I just noticed your Celtic Nations avatar. I have 2-3 tee shirts with that pattern or something similar. It is good to see our people represented.

 

[reddyuta]

OMG!!!.I loathe Daylight saving time,my body never adjusts to it all since its not real time.i sleep so much better after we go back.

 

[reddyuta]

What has always bothered me the most about Daylight Savings Time (DST) is that it's implemented backwards.

During the winter months, when DST is not active, the days are shorter which is when you need more daylight the most.

During the summer months when DST is active, the days are longer which is when you need more daylight less.

So depending where you live, you go from daylight ending around 5pm to 6pm during the winter months to daylight ending around 8pm to 9pm during the summer months, which is a 3-4 hour difference.

If they reversed it, the days would have more consistent (not identical, but closer at least) daylight durations.

If it were reversed, then depending on where you live, daylight would end in winter months around 6pm to 7pm and end in summer months around 7pm to 8pm.

At this point, ending DST would at least get them a little closer, but reversing it would be even better for daily consistency throughout the year.

suppsodely its in summer so that we can use that extra daylight in outdoor activities which probably we wont do it if its in winter,if you ask me its a monumental headache and they should just abolish it for good.

 

[Vtwin]

Four days in and the dogs are still starting to pester me for their dinner an hour earlier then they should be.

It's something how well they know when it's time. Notwithstanding the time change, they are usually within ten minutes.

 

[bb721]

Arizona doesn't do this stupid crap.

Yeah, but they make up for it but doing a LOT of other stupid stuff.