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I hate that we are stuck with Dak

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  1. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Moderator

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    The number of people underestimating Dak in this thread is quite eye opening.
     
  2. Torturedcowboysfan

    Torturedcowboysfan Well-Known Member

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    The number of people who watch the cowboys with unbiased homer eyes, is refreshing.
     
  3. GMO415

    GMO415 Well-Known Member

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    31 would give at a minimum a top 5 pick for Dak......has any of these fans lived through THE BASEBALL QBs, PELLEUR, LEAF, and CARTER?

    Know your Cowboys history! Dak is a top league QB.
     
  4. Torturedcowboysfan

    Torturedcowboysfan Well-Known Member

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    Delusional.
    Dak is a bottom 15 qb. You can win with those. Phil Simms was on two Super Bowl winning teams. As long as this Defense plays great and Zeke and the line are elite, we have a chance.
     
  5. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Moderator

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    There can be no way you believe that. None.
     
  6. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Moderator

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    That would be me. Being a Cowboys fan for almost 50 years has given me great insight into this wonderful game and perspective that makes it unbelievably simple to seperate fandom and homerism.
     
  7. Torturedcowboysfan

    Torturedcowboysfan Well-Known Member

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    There’s a difference between accomplishments and actual skill level. Dak came in the league with the number 1 o-line and running back. That means he went again 8 man boxes every week. Play action made the job even easier. He literally only played six games without them and struggled. Suddenly every receiver on the teams numbers dropped. There was a allpro receiver in the team. As soon! As Dak takes over, that all pros numbers dropped and suddenly he can’t do anything. Who threw all of these guys the ball?
    If those FACTS get overlooked and you still don’t believe he’s bottom 15, nothing will make you see the light.
     
  8. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Moderator

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    Nothing will because he isn't a bottom half of the league QB. Not even close.

    Dak's passer rating when he threw to all targets minus Dez was over 100 last year in his "off" year.

    That doesn't equate to a bottom half QB at all.

    It's crystal clear those 2 weren't ever on the same page. This year we will easily see the return to his status as we saw his rookie year.
     
  9. Torturedcowboysfan

    Torturedcowboysfan Well-Known Member

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    Ignorance feels like bliss. Go with that though. At least you’re happy in it. I’m done with this topic. Talking to brick walls is pointless.
     
  10. Northern_Cowboy

    Northern_Cowboy Well-Known Member

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    If Bill Parcells thought Romo needed 3 years of seasoning as you put it, I wonder how many years of seasoning Bill Parcells would have thought Dak needed before he gave him a chance. With an Over/Under of 3 i bet most would pick the over
     
  11. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Moderator

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    Wow I must have struck a nerve.

    :laugh:
     
  12. zeke21

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    I don't think Dak is a bottom 15 QB.. but he isn't a top 5 QB which is what we need.

    You may not think he has a noodle arm.. and I am probably using the term incorrectly... I was meaning that he can't throw over 20 yards accurately, doesn't have zip on his passes and tends to float them high and wide and can't force the ball into tight targets on a consistent basis.. for me that makes you a noodle arm but I'm happy to agree to disagree.

    I'm not actually sure if Dak could hit a hail mary play, distance wise, for a throw over 40 yards.
     
  13. PA Cowboy Fan

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    Dak was a good QB until late last year. Gotta see how he bounces back this year. No excuses. If he is a franchise QB he will rebound.
     
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  14. zeke21

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    Agree to disagree. He was a lucky QB until late last year.. opposition coaches have worked him out now. He was blessed with a championship level O-Line and RB and Probowl level TE/WR.. and still didn't manage a play off win. Dak also benefitted from the fact that scouts had planned for a Romo offense.. so they were guarding against the deep threat, and didn't quite know what to make of Zeke etc. Last season they had worked both aspects out and Dak struggled big time.

    Sadly, because I want us to win, it will only get worse this year. The "Dak is crap" train is going to be real full by the end of the season unless the kid has done a heap of work this offseason. His interceptions were way up last year as CB's started to read his throws and undercut his passes.. more tape=better defence. Dak isn't fooling anybody this year.

    Also the second half of the year saw him struggle with the RPO against quality D.. I suspect that will continue to get worse as opposition sits on the read. It is getting hard and harder for QB's to use their legs and Dak is gong to need to use his arm first.

    Ofcourse we can still be successful even with our bus driver if Zeke gets off the chain again. We can dink and dunk enough to keep the D off the field and should make playoffs.. but its going to be a long hard road.
     
  15. cowboyec

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    not me.
    if this is the worst we've seen I'll take it.
    22wins in 2yrs....must be the off-season.
     
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  16. kskboys

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    Dak has great zip on his passes.

    Hey, he struggled last year, no doubt, there's no point in lying abou it!!!
     
  17. cowboy_ron

    cowboy_ron You Can't Fix Stupid

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    Amazing isn't it?.....We've got a 4th rd QB that has been in the NFL for two years, and in one of those years we went 13-3 and had another winning season his second year, yet some want to crucify him......I would also bet that not one QB in this next draft even comes close to duplicating that.
     
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  18. cowboy_ron

    cowboy_ron You Can't Fix Stupid

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    lol, He's from Philly....likely just trolling.
     
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  19. cowboyec

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    a beacon in the night!!!!!
     
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  20. DFWJC

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    Call me stubborn (or naïve) but I'm still in wait and see mode with Dak.
    I'm still hopeful
     
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