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QB - Yes, Bledsoe is slow, but he can still get it done and air it out. He's not bad.

WR - Our old WR's still play at a high level, while Crayton/Hurd look promising for the future

RB - JJ can rip it up when needed. MB3 can spell JJ and be a great alternative. MB3 was a good pickup, and getting JJ allowed us to get Spears.

TE - Jason Witten was a steal. Anthony Fasano looks good in TC also.

LT - This position was pretty good until Adams went down. There's nothing we can really do about that.

LG - Hopefully Kosier will be good. If he's not, I fully agree here.

C - Gurode looks to be alot better, and Johnson is serviceable

RG - Marco Rivera's story is unfortunate for us, but is there any way we really could've controlled it?

RT - Petitti is better physically, and Colombo is having a great camp.

The guards scare me the most in the OL. The tackles aren't bad, and the centers are serviceable. If Rivera and Kosier pan out, we should have a pretty good OL.

DE - Great depth here, we have alot of good players.

NT - This is a worry spot for the backup position

OLB - Ware is a great player, and Singleton is pretty good. Don't really know about Ellis/Carpenter though.

ILB - Our ILB's look good, headed by Bradie James.

CB - Terence Newman = elite player, Anthony Henry = good/great player

SS - Roy Williams = great player

FS - Keith Davis isn't really good, but he SHOULD get better, right? Pat Watkins shows promise for the future

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If you really think about it, Parcells has had great drafts. I love the way he's building this team...

IMO, in the draft, you get the busts in rds 1-4(maybe 1-3), and most of your steals around 4-7, maybe 3-7

2003:

RD 1: Terence Newman - he's proven to be a great player last year. I give him an A here.
RD 2: Al Johnson - he was serviceable as a starter. B-/C+ here, could've done better
RD 3: Jason Witten - great steal, A+ here.
RD 4: Bradie James - once again, good steal, A- here, considering the round number
RD 5: No Pick?
RD 6: BJ Tucker - So late in the draft, you can't really expect him to hit here. I can't really give a grade here, since chances are you miss here.
RD 7: Justin Bates - see above

BUSTS: I wouldn't call Johnson a bust yet
STEALS: Witten, James

This draft, and the RD 7 in 2004 with Crayton really, really helped Dallas for the future.

Once again, I love how this team is getting built. We're really making use of the draft.
 

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I think your thread starting post was a bit "chicken little" but I hear some of what you're saying.

I hate that we have an offense constructed almost entirely of other failed offenses' aging washups.
We should have begun a couple years ago to introduce some impactful youth at the skill positions. Testaverde should have never happened and Romo or Henson should have been playing then. Keyshaun and T.O should have never happened and instead we should have a Clayton, Bradley, or the like on this roster.
And most of all, we should have had at least a 1st day draft choice invested in both the Tackle and Guard positions somewhere in the past few drafts.

But our defense is VERY STRONG, our Secondary is (IMO) the best in football, and our RBs and TEs are immensely talented.

So the sky isn't falling. It just rains on occasion. And the forecast for this season will once again be "Scattered Thunderstorms".
 

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Chrissyboy said:
I suppose I'm just joining in out of interest. Where are we now? 30?40? Got to give you credit for suckering so many people into it!

What was the bet? Easy money?

....and I guess you can add me to that list seeing as I have actually given you a reply or 2, but I hope I haven't given your unpleasantness any credence.

Hate who you want. It seems a little needless, and sadly negativity just comes back to chew you up!

I guess this is already proven, it must be a very complex life hating what you love?! Using these guidelines of logic,you must be over the moon in love with England?!

Must be nearing 50 now! Sad that the most ridiculous thread posted in some time receives this much attention!!!! Particularly when so many posters produce excellent pieces of informative and opinionated prose.
 

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Well I haven't been able to spend much time on the computer the last few days and now I return to find that the sky is indeed falling. Oh whatever will I do? :rolleyes:
 

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Qwickdraw said:
I think your thread starting post was a bit "chicken little" but I hear some of what you're saying.

I hate that we have an offense constructed almost entirely of other failed offenses' aging washups.
We should have begun a couple years ago to introduce some impactful youth at the skill positions. Testaverde should have never happened and Romo or Henson should have been playing then. Keyshaun and T.O should have never happened and instead we should have a Clayton, Bradley, or the like on this roster.
And most of all, we should have had at least a 1st day draft choice invested in both the Tackle and Guard positions in the past few drafts.

But our defense is VERY STRONG, our Secondary is (IMO) the best in football, and our RBs and TEs are immensely talented.

So the sky isn't falling. It just rains on occasion. And the forecast for this season will once again be "Scattered Thunderstorms".

We DID... Jacob Rogers. Al Johnson (at Center though u didnt mention that position). Stephen Peterman. Unfortunately, the OLine is the only area where Bill Parcells has struggled in the draft.

If you do THIS then we wouldn't have THIS.
With such GAWD AWFUL drafting pre-Parcells, we have no other choice than to look for players thru free agency OR wait another 4 or 5 drafts to draft all the players we needed to build a team with a good bit of viable talent.
 

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Qwickdraw said:
I think your thread starting post was a bit "chicken little" but I hear some of what you're saying.

I hate that we have an offense constructed almost entirely of other failed offenses' aging washups.
We should have begun a couple years ago to introduce some impactful youth at the skill positions. Testaverde should have never happened and Romo or Henson should have been playing then. Keyshaun and T.O should have never happened and instead we should have a Clayton, Bradley, or the like on this roster.
And most of all, we should have had at least a 1st day draft choice invested in both the Tackle and Guard positions somewhere in the past few drafts.

But our defense is VERY STRONG, our Secondary is (IMO) the best in football, and our RBs and TEs are immensely talented.

So the sky isn't falling. It just rains on occasion. And the forecast for this season will once again be "Scattered Thunderstorms".
Thank you - and I respect your respone...good point on other teams failed slop in our Skill posiitons...good/bad way of looking at it.:mad:
 

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I have NO FAITH in this club and I'd be shocked if we won 6 games. I forsee the OL collapsing terribly and Tony Romo being put in by Week 7-8.

Cool.:cool: So since the season's basically up in smoke we can safely assume there's little reason for you to bestow more of these delightful pearls of wisdom on us deluded rabble that can't wait for the season to start?
 

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TEK2000 said:
We DID... Jacob Rogers. Al Johnson (at Center though u didnt mention that position). Stephen Peterman. Unfortunately, the OLine is the only area where Bill Parcells has struggled in the draft.

If you do THIS then we wouldn't have THIS.
With such GAWD AWFUL drafting pre-Parcells, we have no other choice than to look for players thru free agency OR wait another 4 or 5 drafts to draft all the players we needed to build a team with a good bit of viable talent.
I meant to say a 1st ROUND draft choice.
 

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Qwickdraw said:
So the sky isn't falling. It just rains on occasion. And the forecast for this season will once again be "Scattered Thunderstorms".
I love it! What a great way to put it!

(by the way, I know a forum where it's against the law to rain.....)

Everyday is mandated to be filled with sunshine (up your kazoo) and overflowing with Kool-Aid. Just mentioning the possibility of a cloud will get you banned.....
 

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Qwickdraw said:
I meant to say a 1st ROUND draft choice.

who?

Leonard Davis- not really a bust, but hasn't played anywhere close to a #2 pick

Mike Williams- Bust. Doesn't even have a job now.

Jordan Gross- has played pretty well, but hasn't dominated like a 1st round pick should.

Rober Gallery- very borderline bust.

last year's guys were just rookies, we'll give them a few years to pass judgement.

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Who were we going to pick in the 1st round this year?

D'brick? Did you want to give up our whole draft to trade into the top 4?

Davin Joseph? A reach to say the least.

Where were we going to get these "great" 1st round picks?
 

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Ok, step away from the ledge

1) QB- please find for me where the rule is that you have to be mobile to be a good QB. I've never seen that. Bledsoe is mobile in the pocket and that's good enough for me. He was 8th in the NFL in pass yards, 9th in pass tds after losing his LT after week 6. Before flo went down he had the highest passer rating in the NFL.

2) OL- Rivera was a probowler in 03 and 04, do you think he just forgot how to block in 05? Let's wait to see him play a full healthy year before passing judgement. Fabini has played horrible before coming here, I still quesion that signing.

3) With Owens, we all hated what he did with the star, and most people didn't want him to come here. We'll have to wait and see how he plays this season before we say this was a bad signing. He disrespected the star and I'll always hate that about him, but I think he can do a lot of good things for us.

Glenn was one of the best deep threats last year, and you hate him because he can't go over the middle. So that only makes him....just like most other wrs in the league. That's why we have 2 pass catching te's, I'll let them do that.

4) We have a hole at cover saftey, but I wouldn't say it's a giant hole. People forget how good Roy was at coverage when Darren played. We'll have to see what we can get from Watkins or Coleman. I think we have a patch for that hole now. Hopefully in a few years watkins will be able to fill that hole.

5) The loss of LA I think will be an upgrade. Kosier was the #1 OT FA in sportingnews, and he's done very well in camp so far, so I think he'll be an upgrade with how he can play. Where was that "top shelf" OLineman going to be found. Did you want to trade up for D'Brick? I don't think so. Parcells wasn't going to draft Mangold at Center because with his "3 year rule" he's not going to give up on Johnson. None of the other players I'd really consider "top shelf". They were all pretty good, but no certain thing.

Petitti played like a rookie last year, and even so he played pretty well. Through week 14 he only allowed 8 sacks. That's 8 games after flo went down, 8 games after he stopped getting the tight end help, 8 games where he had to face Strahan, Kearse, and Bryce Fisher. Petitti will get much better this year. Just wait until after someone's rookie year to consider them so bad.

This should be a very good team this year. It will be defense and running dominated. Expect the playoffs.


If Rivera didnt forget his PROBOWL form... why do u think LA did? or vice versa? call it what it is or dont call it!!!

Kosier is a replacement in HE IS NOT AN UPGRADE!!!

in my best ADAM SANDLER voice!!!
 

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MONT17 said:
If Rivera didnt forget his PROBOWL form... why do u think LA did? or vice versa? call it what it is or dont call it!!!

Kosier is a replacement in HE IS NOT AN UPGRADE!!!

in my best ADAM SANDLER voice!!!
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youngbuck said:
who?

Leonard Davis- not really a bust, but hasn't played anywhere close to a #2 pick

Mike Williams- Bust. Doesn't even have a job now.

Jordan Gross- has played pretty well, but hasn't dominated like a 1st round pick should.

Rober Gallery- very borderline bust.

last year's guys were just rookies, we'll give them a few years to pass judgement.

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Who were we going to pick in the 1st round this year?

D'brick? Did you want to give up our whole draft to trade into the top 4?

Davin Joseph? A reach to say the least.

Where were we going to get these "great" 1st round picks?

Thanks for making my reply for me. :) Nice post.. exactly what I had planned to say.
 

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If Rivera didnt forget his PROBOWL form... why do u think LA did? or vice versa? call it what it is or dont call it!!!

Kosier is a replacement in HE IS NOT AN UPGRADE!!!

in my best ADAM SANDLER voice!!!

Two big differences. Rivera was voted in based off performance, Allen was voted in based on reputation.

Rivera two years ago far outplayed Allen last year.

Watch this video. You'll see a big man wearing #73 enter your screen. He's the guy trying not to get hit.

Parcells loves guys to pull outside of the pocket. Kosier is much more athletic and able to do that.

The guard needs to be able to get to the 2nd level and seal off a LB. Kosier is more athletic and able to do that.

The big question with Kosier has been his inability to block pass rusher, well if you've read all the reports Kosier has been able to stop rusher like canty and ferguson.

When watching LA last year don't confuse him with the mid-90's LA, that player isn't there anymore.
 

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youngbuck said:
Two big differences. Rivera was voted in based off performance, Allen was voted in based on reputation.

Rivera two years ago far outplayed Allen last year.

Watch this video. You'll see a big man wearing #73 enter your screen. He's the guy trying not to get hit.

Parcells loves guys to pull outside of the pocket. Kosier is much more athletic and able to do that.

The guard needs to be able to get to the 2nd level and seal off a LB. Kosier is more athletic and able to do that.

The big question with Kosier has been his inability to block pass rusher, well if you've read all the reports Kosier has been able to stop rusher like canty and ferguson.

When watching LA last year don't confuse him with the mid-90's LA, that player isn't there anymore.

Haha, great clip. I love the way he just sticks his arm out in vain after he realizes that he blocked exactly no one on the play.
 

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X-Dawg said:
He is still better than the legend...Kosier....so tell me how we are more talented - you opened your foolish face - now tell me how tuff guy.

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