I have a feeling Suh is a Cowboy by early Tuesday morning; feeling must have been gas pains

BAT

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Doesn't matter if we could find a way to afford him or not. He's not on Dallas' radar and he's not coming to Dallas period.
Keep looking for players in the bargain bin and you'll sleep better at night.
Suh is Albert Haynesworth reincarnated...Bad news!

Either you are exaggerating for effect, or you really are unfamiliar with history of these players. They could not be more different.
 

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Alexander

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You can plug Suh anywhere on a 34 or 4-3 DL and he will dominate.

One of the problems 34 teams ponder with in base formations is generating a legitimate pass rush from the 5 tech and 0 tech spots without having to commit the 5th rusher.

It depends on the gap scheme the team uses. Suh has been a three tech playing one gap mostly. Teams like Indianapolis and SD two gap their linemen in a 3-4 look. To me, it seems to negate his best qualities which is penetrating and makes him rely more on strength. If I am spending 100 million on a player, he had better fit better than that.
 

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It depends on the gap scheme the team uses. Suh has been a three tech playing one gap mostly. Teams like Indianapolis and SD two gap their linemen in a 3-4 look. To me, it seems to negate his best qualities which is penetrating and makes him rely more on strength. If I am spending 100 million on a player, he had better fit better than that.

Two things:

- Suh wouldn't spend a whole lot of time as the DE anyways so I'd imagine that he would move inside in 4 man fronts when they go nickel. Plus as well all know, teams spend way more snaps in nickel than in base these days.

- Also, the 1T will almost always rush in the closed end A-gap to force a double team. That leaves the 3T to rush the open end A gap or the B gap of the guard in front of them. The philosophy is to isolate the 3T and the OG and give the 3T the two gaps to attack. That's 2-gapping but with game planning and film study involved it doesn't always playout that way.
 
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Suh would be good in any defense, 34 or 43, but I think his impact would be less in the 34 and so I probably wouldn't spend big on him if my team ran it.

Like Bluestang said, he likely would play DT in a 4 man line when they're in the nickle but I still would probably spend elsewhere.
 

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Suh would be good in any defense, 34 or 43, but I think his impact would be less in the 34 and so I probably wouldn't spend big on him if my team ran it.

Like Bluestang said, he likely would play DT in a 4 man line when they're in the nickle but I still would probably spend elsewhere.

If you spend $100 million on a player, you had better have him doing what he does best each and every down, not just depend on subpackages. The defense should be built around that player's skill, not the other way around.
 

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If you spend $100 million on a player, you had better have him doing what he does best each and every down, not just depend on subpackages. The defense should be built around that player's skill, not the other way around.

Thats one of the many ways the Commanders screwed up the Haynesworth signing. He was the most dominant defensive player in the NFL blowing through gaps into the backfield and the Commanders tried to make him a 2 gap NT
 

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If you spend $100 million on a player, you had better have him doing what he does best each and every down, not just depend on subpackages. The defense should be built around that player's skill, not the other way around.

I agree.

It would be like Dallas paying $100M to an OLB who could move down to DE in the nickle. Yes it would work and yes he would still get his sacks but it would be crazy at that kind of money.

That same OLB would probably be worth the huge money to a team that ran a 34 full time.
 

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With Beas, Free and Dez we are officially down to less than 1m in cap space.

It's time to quit messing around and restructure Romo-13m, TSmith-8m, Witten-3 and do something with Carr-4m.

That's 28m right there.
 

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that sound you hear is 31 out of 32 NFL general managers laughing
 

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RKG? AP loves to play football and is passionate to Dez's level. Thats what Garrett means by RKG.

One of the coaches pictured in your sig does not belong yet. He has not earned it yet. Hopefully he finally will after next season.
 
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