I have a good feeling about our O-line next year

[Idgit]

No but his lack of postseason success or appearances......I could see teams wanting to not stand by that.

Teams aren't going to evaluate a player on a team's performance. They'll be able to look at how he actually played in those games and see that the problem was not with the QB but with the team around him. The OT play, in the NYG 2007 game and the 2009 (?) MIN game, for example. Or the defense's inability to slow Aaron Rodgers last year. Romo hasn't been the problem with the playoff Cowboys teams. He's spit the bit in a couple of regular season games, but that's about it.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Teams aren't going to evaluate a player on a team's performance. They'll be able to look at how he actually played in those games and see that the problem was not with the QB but with the team around him. The OT play, in the NYG 2007 game and the 2009 (?) MIN game, for example. Or the defense's inability to slow Aaron Rodgers last year. Romo hasn't been the problem with the playoff Cowboys teams. He's spit the bit in a couple of regular season games, but that's about it.

He's been a part of the problem. Not the sole problem.

When you spit the bit in regular season games...that prevents you from getting into the post season thus giving you a 8-8 or 9-7 record.

 

[Idgit]

He's been a part of the problem. Not the sole problem.

When you spit the bit in regular season games...that prevents you from getting into the post season thus giving you a 8-8 or 9-7 record.

He hasn't even been a part of the problem. That's the point. He's been a very good player at his position.

All QBs have tough games. Romo's no exception in that regard. I mentioned that he's fallen apart in a couple of games to be fair in evaluating him, but in context, he's no different from any good QB in that regard. Sometimes you throw multiple picks and it gets your team beat. The team has to be better around him so that you're not counting on him to be perfect to make the postseason. For years now, the defense has been bad or mediocre. That's what needs to be fixed.

 

[CCBoy]

He's been a part of the problem. Not the sole problem.

When you spit the bit in regular season games...that prevents you from getting into the post season thus giving you a 8-8 or 9-7 record.

And when one gets a pissy attitude that doesn't change a pissy diaper as well.

That same quarterback has more come back fourth quarter victories than the current comparison group, and not challengeable.

Did someone say 8-8 and place blame on Tony?

 

[Stash]

No they were unhealthy enough to still beat a terrible team and unhealthy enough to lose to a good one.

And I'm saying that's a sad, sad attempt to make excuses. Neither Romo, nor Bryant, or this entire offense ever looked right all of last year. To try to chalk all if tge issues up to "injury" or "rust" is just ignorant.

And btw, i'm not saying the Panthers were better. They were a better team and they may very well have beaten us with a healthy Romo and Dez. But I've been watching Romo and Dez for all their careers and I could tell you that they weren't right when they came back. It was premature. They tried to do what was best for the team and I commend them for that. But they weren't right.

Romo threw 3 picks because he was rusty and didn't have a healthy Dez. He threw 9 int's all of last year but i'm suppose to believe he's a 3 interception a game quarterback even against he Panthers lol? Please.

The Panthers defense had a lot more to do with those 3 interceptions than your " injury" excuse did, that's for sure! You go ahead and make up whatever excuses in your head that you want to, but it doesn't change the fact that Dallas was outmatched and outclassed.

 

[Junglist]

2015 was over in week three

Week 2, as soon as Romo went down. Of course, all the homers wanted to believe their Make-a-Wish dream will come true.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He hasn't even been a part of the problem. That's the point. He's been a very good player at his position.

All QBs have tough games. Romo's no exception in that regard. I mentioned that he's fallen apart in a couple of games to be fair in evaluating him, but in context, he's no different from any good QB in that regard. Sometimes you throw multiple picks and it gets your team beat. The team has to be better around him so that you're not counting on him to be perfect to make the postseason. For years now, the defense has been bad or mediocre. That's what needs to be fixed.

I'm not arguing that Romo isn't a great quarterback. I'm saying he took part in this teams mediocrity. He's not alone. This defense has let him down. Prime example, that Broncos game from a few years ago. Defense can't get a stop..... And he throws a pick to end the game despite us having 50 points up there. So should o excuse him for his pick because he put up 50? I think Romo does more at quarterback for his team than any qb in the league. So don't mistake this for a bash Romo post. I just believe he has taken part in this as well as everyone from top to bottom.

And I'm saying that's a sad, sad attempt to make excuses. Neither Romo, nor Bryant, or this entire offense ever looked right all of last year. To try to chalk all if tge issues up to "injury" or "rust" is just ignorant.



The Panthers defense had a lot more to do with those 3 interceptions than your " injury" excuse did, that's for sure! You go ahead and make up whatever excuses in your head that you want to, but it doesn't change the fact that Dallas was outmatched and outclassed.

Your confusing excuses with explanations.

 

[CCBoy]

I'm not arguing that Romo isn't a great quarterback. I'm saying he took part in this teams mediocrity. He's not alone. This defense has let him down. Prime example, that Broncos game from a few years ago. Defense can't get a stop..... And he throws a pick to end the game despite us having 50 points up there. So should o excuse him for his pick because he put up 50? I think Romo does more at quarterback for his team than any qb in the league. So don't mistake this for a bash Romo post. I just believe he has taken part in this as well as everyone from top to bottom.


Your confusing excuses with explanations.

No, incorporating application with an analysis.

 

[fortdick]

I am the biggest Elliott jock sniffer here but I ain't taking him at #4 and theres not a snowballs chance in Hades he slides past the Texans. I believe Henry will be on the board at #34 but I suspect that pick will go defense. Now if we pass up Alex Collins in the third round my head will explode.

Sorry, #34 is reserved for TE

 

[fortdick]

And imagine if the best player available is Laremy Tunsil when we pick at #4.

Take him! Every time.

 

[Stash]

Your confusing excuses with explanations.

Not when you're trying to say that we were "too hurt" to beat good teams but not "too hurt" to beat a bad team I'm not. If anyone's confused about it, it's obviously you.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Not when you're trying to say that we were "too hurt" to beat good teams but not "too hurt" to beat a bad team I'm not. If anyone's confused about it, it's obviously you.

Well first off that's not what I said. I said we were "unhealthy" enough to beat bad teams but also "unhealthy" enough to get the brakes beat off us by the Panthers. I guess that's our dilemma here. The "confusion"?

 

[Stash]

Well first off that's not what I said. I said we were "unhealthy" enough to beat bad teams but also "unhealthy" enough to get the brakes beat off us by the Panthers. I guess that's our dilemma here. The "confusion"?

Nonsense, not confusion.

I guess every time the Cowboys get their brains beat in, it because they were "unhealthy".

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Nonsense, not confusion.

I guess every time the Cowboys get their brains beat in, it because they were "unhealthy".

Goodness.......

If you want to live in a delusional world and think that the Romo and Dez you saw last year was healthy then be my guest. Fact is, Dez was hobbled all year and Romo was coming off his injury. He wasn't even that good in the freakin' Dolphins game lol. You're talking like he lit it up that game. He was still rusty. But the Dolphins stink. Call that an excuse or whatever you want. I really don't care. Cowboys win 13 games relatively healthy. They lose 12 games relatively unhealthy but you don't see any connection there. Fair enough.

 

[Stash]

Goodness.......

If you want to live in a delusional world and think that the Romo and Dez you saw last year was healthy then be my guest. Fact is, Dez was hobbled all year and Romo was coming off his injury. He wasn't even that good in the freakin' Dolphins game lol. You're talking like he lit it up that game. He was still rusty. But the Dolphins stink. Call that an excuse or whatever you want. I really don't care. Cowboys win 13 games relatively healthy. They lose 12 games relatively unhealthy but you don't see any connection there. Fair enough.

I'll do that. Thanks for your 'permission'...

Conversely, if you want to believe that either of them played up to their 2014 standard at any point in 2015, you can live in that "delusional world".

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'll do that. Thanks for your 'permission'...

Conversely, if you want to believe that either of them played up to their 2014 standard at any point in 2015, you can live in that "delusional world".

Wait, what? So now you're creating a whole new argument now? You've been arguing that they WERE healthy in 2015 and now they actually didn't play up to their standard....hmmm.....I wonder why they didn't play up to your standard. Maybe it had something to do with them getting hurt? No?

 

[CCBoy]

Wait, what? So now you're creating a whole new argument now? You've been arguing that they WERE healthy in 2015 and now they actually didn't play up to their standard....hmmm.....I wonder why they didn't play up to your standard. Maybe it had something to do with them getting hurt? No?

Damn, when proving out a case a person states the facts and doesn't first go to second person, you.

Show the exact points referenced, and then let the facts stand...emotion is a poor backup element, unless a person really has lost issue and is proceeding on his own agenda.

Stash is pretty stand up on his facts, and will come clean if he sees it as presented.

Give the person in a discussion enough room to participate on points, not character. A lot of times, that works.

 

[Stash]

Wait, what? So now you're creating a whole new argument now? You've been arguing that they WERE healthy in 2015 and now they actually didn't play up to their standard....hmmm.....I wonder why they didn't play up to your standard. Maybe it had something to do with them getting hurt? No?

No, this has been my one argument. Nobody on this offense played up to their 2014 standards. Nobody! You're trying to give them a pass based on injury and that's not the whole truth.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No, this has been my one argument. Nobody on this offense played up to their 2014 standards. Nobody! You're trying to give them a pass based on injury and that's not the whole truth.

So why do you think they didn't play to their standards? Romo is a bad quarterback now? Dez is a bad receiver now? What is it?

 

[Stash]

So why do you think they didn't play to their standards? Romo is a bad quarterback now? Dez is a bad receiver now? What is it?

If I knew for sure, I'd be working for the team instead of having this conversation with you. Obviously, I don't think they suddenly became "bad players", so if I had to speculate, I'd say that the coaches didn't do the best job in any areas. And I think that what happened with everyone else being so much worse supports that belief.

I don't think this team was as prepared as it should have been to start the season, and when they lost their best players who cover up those warts, the wheels completely fell off.

But what I don't buy is the oversimplification that the team's only issues were due to injury.