I have a good feeling about our O-line next year

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No, they were 7th in rushing efficiency according to FootballOutsiders.com.

And that comes with Russell Wilson's ability to run the ball which not only counts Wilson's production as a runner, but it helps a RB like Lynch as well. We don't have that with Romo and quite frankly, I think Wilson is going to be a once in a lifetime QB because he can throw the ball effectively, run effectively and doesn't get hurt. Usually we don't see that unless we get a Cam Newton type.

We couldn't win last year in large part because we had no passing attack. A great running game will not open up the passing game like a great passing game will open up the running game.

I think even with Denver this year, they still had Peyton Manning who was good enough to keep defenses off kilter...if by anything on reputation, alone. And as Alexander pointed out...you're not going to sustain great defenses for very long in this league because of the salary cap and players on defense are more than twice than likely to get injured than offensive players.

And believe it or not, I generally tend to believe that the RB position is undervalued in the NFL. I just don't see it being a problem for the Cowboys at this moment and we have much bigger fish to fry.




YR

What bigger fish to fry? You aren't really doing much more in this thread than pushing your passing is more important than running. No one is disagreeing with that. STash and others have been calling for RB after the first round. There is a lot of value historically there in the draft.

You can cherry pick stats all you like but they were still 1st in yards and raw efficiency. While I appreciate FO considering situational football, I am not overly convinced by their methodology as being predictive or descriptive.

Dunbar and Turbin remain marginal talent and FA. DMC is only serviceable.

Really on offense after backup QB the top needs are WR2 to upgrade Williams and a RB to improve over DMC. You just pooed all over the idea of building around defense.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

What bigger fish to fry? You aren't really doing much more in this thread than pushing your passing is more important than running. No one is disagreeing with that. STash and others have been calling for RB after the first round. There is a lot of value historically there in the draft.

You can cherry pick stats all you like but they were still 1st in yards and raw efficiency.

I'm not cherry picking stats. Anybody who knows me knows that I have had a strong preference for FO.com's metrics.

It's YOU who are cherry picking stats.

While I appreciate FO considering situational football, I am not overly convinced by their methodology as being predictive or descriptive.

That's because they disagree with your preconceived notions. I would rather have a metric that accounts for the down and distance as well as the quality of rush defenses being played against than using total yards because that is what advanced analytics and creating a more accurate measurement is about.

Dunbar and Turbin remain marginal talent and FA. DMC is only serviceable.

DMC is not serviceable. He was a top-3 producing back once he became the starter. All of the numbers show that.

Dunbar, as a receiver is not a marginal talent.

A #2 back is there to spell the #1 back and had better be able to get going without needing carries to get in a groove. And play ST. That's what Turbin can do at a fraction of what it costs for a draft pick.

Really on offense after backup QB the top needs are WR2 to upgrade Williams and a RB to improve over DMC. You just pooed all over the idea of building around defense.

If Romo is healthy and Dez is healthy, we really don't need a #2 that bad. We had a productive running game once DMC was the starter.

I didn't poo all over the idea of building around the defense because...I NEVER SAID WE HAVE TO BUILD AROUND THE DEFENSE.

Good grief.






YR

 

[Dwight]

What's wrong with Ramsey in your opinion?

He is overrated and I was not impressed with his play. You can draft a CB in the third or fourth round.

Also, this team needs to focus on a QB, DT, RB, RT & WR. Those positions are more of a need in my opinion. The team focuses too much on the secondary which has hurt them.

But I have a feeling that he will be selected and will set the team back for years.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

It's still reductio ad absurdum. You can insist on your paradigm all you want. I keep saying that the two are interrelated and you just repeat yourself ad nauseum.

You're an ideologue. Youre not going to be convinced but for most people, they can see that without Lynch and the running game that Seattle offense would not pass as efficiently. It all works in tandem. Then of course there is the reality of how Linehan and Garrett run the Cowboys offense.

They didn't have Lynch this year and threw the ball better than they ever have.

Crazy.





YR

 

[CCBoy]

Haha idiot trying to call someone else an idiot.

I'm talking about winning championships not regular season and not only that Denver winning the superbowl this year was the basis for my comment but you tried to make it about something else. You asked me to name another team that won a championship that way I named Seattle then you tried to make it about regular season, now you talking about one game. ....last I checked that's two games.

Was you born ******** or you just become this way over time.

Keep trying

Despite your feelings, and I have Yakuza Rich on ignore, the man has a ton of football knowledge and has shared it for over a decade now. At least attempt to stumble upon as much in running from a discussion with him.

 

[CCBoy]

this may be true but what about the Defensive Line and Backfield?

The offense first gets you to the playoffs...and next season is year 4 in the rebuild of the defense.

 

[Stash]

Yeah but let's be honest they didn't see a healthy Cowboys team. We can pretend like Romo and Dez weren't playing hurt but I don't think we'd be telling the truth to ourselves.

They were both well enough to win against a Miami team the work before though, weren't they? Let's tell ourselves the whole truth too.

 

[SportsGuru80]

I'm not all that worried about our offensive line honestly.... I have major concerns about the defensive line.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

 

[Nightman]

It definitely moved

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

They were both well enough to win against a Miami team the work before though, weren't they? Let's tell ourselves the whole truth too.

But you do realize there's a big difference between the Dolphins and the Panthers though right? They weren't a very good team at all. On either side of the ball.

 

[Stash]

But you do realize there's a big difference between the Dolphins and the Panthers though right? They weren't a very good team at all. On either side of the ball.

That's exactly my point! Romo and Dez were somehow 'healthy enough' to win against a bad team, but got their clocks cleaned the following week when playing the best team in the NFC. It shows how far they have to go with or without them both.

When people want to talk about "close games decided by a play or two" they'd better realize who those close games were played against. They were non-playoff teams. When Dallas played against the quality teams, the results were never in doubt.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That's exactly my point! Romo and Dez were somehow 'healthy enough' to win against a bad team, but got their clocks cleaned the following week when playing the best team in the NFC. It shows how far they have to go with or without them both.

When people want to talk about "close games decided by a play or two" they'd better realize who those close games were played against. They were non-playoff teams. When Dallas played against the quality teams, the results were never in doubt.

You thought they looked again in the Dolphins game? I didn't think they looked that healthy that game either. Panthers beat is bad because of Romo. Their offense did nothing of note and if Romo is healthy he's the least of my concerns. He's not throwing Luke Kuechly 2 picks.

 

[dstew60105]

Collins is going to cement this line into a road grading machine from hell.

We need to get either Henry, Collins or Elliott to run behind this line.

Absolutely agree. Kids a monster. Credit to the front office for rolling out the red carpet last year.

 

[JohnsKey19]

The OL must be top 3 if we're to have any shot at being a contender. Barring injury, they should be very good and consistent. On paper, RT is the 1 question mark.

 

[DandyDon1722]

You thought they looked again in the Dolphins game? I didn't think they looked that healthy that game either. Panthers beat is bad because of Romo. Their offense did nothing of note and if Romo is healthy he's the least of my concerns. He's not throwing Luke Kuechly 2 picks.

Exactly right. Just because he won in Miami doesn't mean he was healthy. He and the team did enough to win. He then admitted he was sore that week in practice and the short week doomed him.

Ultimately we ran into a buzz saw at the wrong time and really the season was over at that point.

 

[cowboyblue22]

2015 was over in week three

 

[Stash]

You thought they looked again in the Dolphins game? I didn't think they looked that healthy that game either.

Healthy enough to beat a bad team, unhealthy enough to get clobbered by a good one. That attempted excuse doesn't work for me.

Panthers beat is bad because of Romo. Their offense did nothing of note and if Romo is healthy he's the least of my concerns. He's not throwing Luke Kuechly 2 picks.

He didn't throw 3 picks because he was hurt. And the Panthers offense did just what they needed to do to stomp on the Cowboys.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He's always been a QB that plays at a level nobody in their right mind would replace.

No but his lack of postseason success or appearances......I could see teams wanting to not stand by that.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Healthy enough to beat a bad team, unhealthy enough to get clobbered by a good one. That attempted excuse doesn't work for me.



He didn't throw 3 picks because he was hurt. And the Panthers offense did just what they needed to do to stomp on the Cowboys.

No they were unhealthy enough to still beat a terrible team and unhealthy enough to lose to a good one. And btw, i'm not saying the Panthers were better. They were a better team and they may very well have beaten us with a healthy Romo and Dez. But I've been watching Romo and Dez for all their careers and I could tell you that they weren't right when they came back. It was premature. They tried to do what was best for the team and I commend them for that. But they weren't right.

Romo threw 3 picks because he was rusty and didn't have a healthy Dez. He threw 9 int's all of last year but i'm suppose to believe he's a 3 interception a game quarterback even against he Panthers lol? Please.