I have a good trade scenario

[ZeroClub]

The Cowboys already drafted a young, fast former QB who can't play WR.

Do they really need another one?

 

[HighTechDave]

The Cowboys already drafted a young, fast former QB who can't play WR.

Do they really need another one?

um sir, he's not fast, just wanted to correct that part

 

[iceberg]

The Cowboys already drafted a young, fast former QB who can't play WR.

Do they really need another one?

and how do you know he can't?

 

[Hostile]

These two guys are in the wrong place but need a new surrouding to fulfill their potential. The numbers should match salary cap wise too.

We give up Bobby Carpetner(We all know the stack is against him here)

to the Jags for

Matt Jones(Just demoted to 3rd or 4th string with Reggie Williams)

Big guy with speed and most importantly getting younger at reciever.


These two guys need a change and it fits. Do you bite????

Not only no, but hell no.

We're crowded at WR and a 3-4 scheme depends on its LBs.

 

[Kangaroo]

why is the stack against him? instant gratification society declare another holiday when i wasn't looking? he finally got on the field and is playing and is playing good enough to beat out james and others around him NOT named ware.

if someone is 4th string about to be cut, you wanna give up almost 2 years early on a 1st round pick to trade for a player you can likely claim off waivers or worse case - give up a 6th or 7th rounder for him?

kids -this is your brain...this is your brain on drugs....

Come one Iceberg we have people whinnying because a 4th round picks are not sure fire HOF players after pre-season and how bad they sux and will never get better because they are rookies and expected to play like HOF day one and little experience. 1st round picks have to look like HOF every player drafted has to make a 30 second espn highlight play or the team can never win. Welcome to all the young people growing up on espn.

 

[Kilyin]

As Gimmiethe ball said its defintly makes you think.

Yeah it definitely makes me think......

......that you're not very bright.

 

[iceberg]

Come one Iceberg we have people whinnying because

there. fixed it. it's the instant gratification society in action.

 

[mmillman]

Jones hasn't shown anything. He is fast in a straight line but still can't gain separation, nor is he tough enough to stay on the field.

 

[Angus]

At the end of the year Carpenter won't be better than Spencer, in my opinion, but I think he will come on and eventually be an excellent inside linebacker, and a very good utility linebacker, under Wade Phillips' tutelage.

 

[Hostile]

At the end of the year Carpenter won't be better than Spencer, in my opinion, but I think he will come on and eventually be an excellent inside linebacker, and a very good utility linebacker, under Wade Phillips' tutelage.

I don't think Spencer could play inside like Carpenter can, so in some ways Spencer won't be as good as Carpenter.

It isn't about who is better, it's about who contributes and I think both will.

 

[iceberg]

I don't think Spencer could play inside like Carpenter can, so in some ways Spencer won't be as good as Carpenter.

It isn't about who is better, it's about who contributes and I think both will.

you mean like in how many games it takes to hit the field or before being on the active roster? :

 

[Sarge]

Why do so many come up with these trade scenarios when trades in and of themselves don't even exist any longer for all practical porpoises.

 

[Angus]

I don't think Spencer could play inside like Carpenter can, so in some ways Spencer won't be as good as Carpenter.

It isn't about who is better, it's about who contributes and I think both will.

My post didn't consider Spencer trying the inside. I don't think he will play there except when he lines up at end. But I do think Spencer will prove more valuable to the team than Carpenter, although I think Carpenter will be good.

 

[DallasEast]

Why do so many come up with these trade scenarios when trades in and of themselves don't even exist any longer for all practical porpoises.

Because, when you play fantasy football as much as some do, trading any player in any type of scenario eventually becomes the norm instead of the exception.

 

[playmakers]

Matt Jones is 6'5 240 and can run a 4.3. He doesnt have a quarterback in Jacksonville. Every season Leftwich either plays inconsistent or gets hurt, they then have to convert the reins over to Garrard. In the middle of the switch they run the ball almost 70 percent of the time. I know you hate it but in the right place Jones can be a productive player. We have Owens, Glenn and Witten to take the pressure off of him. In Jacksonville who do they double team first? He has taken all of the double teams. You know teams are going to double Owens here.

As for Carpertner, you guys have wishful thinking. Basically, he played outside LB in the first preseason game, training camp and from the looks of it will continue to do so unless we have a major injury bug. These players are depth charted above him already IMO. Six players

Ayodele(sp)
James
Ware
Spencer
Burnett
Ellis (he's going to play, hes just whining because he knows Spencer can play)

For him to be most productive he needs to play inside. We all seen how horrible he is as a pass rusher in the NFL. That means two of the three would have to be injured for him to start Ayodele, James, and Burnett will be the first replacement. He has some value now and if he just sits on the bench and plays speacil teams what is it going to do to his value?

I know some has said this sounds like fantasy football but IMO its not a crazy thought to look into some trades for him before our first round pick becomes a permant fixture on the 40 yard line holding his helmet. At least Jones would help this team as the third reciever. 6 5, 240 getting single covered by the nickle db, tell me he couldnt excel there? He's just stuck in Jacksonville getting double teamed and having no quarterback. Hes not good enough to be a number 1, that is clear as day. Im talking about as a number three. Matchup problems galore with Owens, Glenn, Witten and Jones. Or, would you rather have a guy on the 40 yard line holding his helmet the entire game living off his college legacy. I hope Im wrong but it is what it is now. Opinions

 

[dbair1967]

Matt Jones is 6'5 240 and can run a 4.3. He doesnt have a quarterback in Jacksonville. Every season Leftwich either plays inconsistent or gets hurt, they then have to convert the reins over to Garrard. In the middle of the switch they run the ball almost 70 percent of the time. I know you hate it but in the right place Jones can be a productive player. We have Owens, Glenn and Witten to take the pressure off of him. In Jacksonville who do they double team first? He has taken all of the double teams. You know teams are going to double Owens here.

As for Carpertner, you guys have wishful thinking. Basically, he played outside LB in the first preseason game, training camp and from the looks of it will continue to do so unless we have a major injury bug. These players are depth charted above him already IMO. Six players

Ayodele(sp)
James
Ware
Spencer
Burnett
Ellis (he's going to play, hes just whining because he knows Spencer can play)

For him to be most productive he needs to play inside. We all seen how horrible he is as a pass rusher in the NFL. That means two of the three would have to be injured for him to start Ayodele, James, and Burnett will be the first replacement. He has some value now and if he just sits on the bench and plays speacil teams what is it going to do to his value?

I know some has said this sounds like fantasy football but IMO its not a crazy thought to look into some trades for him before our first round pick becomes a permant fixture on the 40 yard line holding his helmet. At least Jones would help this team as the third reciever. 6 5, 240 getting single covered by the nickle db, tell me he couldnt excel there? He's just stuck in Jacksonville getting double teamed and having no quarterback. Hes not good enough to be a number 1, that is clear as day. Im talking about as a number three. Matchup problems galore with Owens, Glenn, Witten and Jones. Or, would you rather have a guy on the 40 yard line holding his helmet the entire game living off his college legacy. I hope Im wrong but it is what it is now. Opinions

dude, Matt Jones blows, period.

The guy has almost ZERO skill for the position save size and supposed speed (which he almost never shows with the uniform on)

he cant get open and he has lousy hands...if your a WR and cant run routes, you are basically useless...kinda like a QB that cant pass or read defenses

David

 

[playmakers]

Im saying the reason why he blows is because hes on a team that doesnt throw the ball. It would be like sending Randy Moss to Nebreska when they ran the option 80x a game I beileve in the 80's. No one would actually know how good he was until he was thrown into a pass oriented offense. Im not saying Im right either, basically, its a gamble that could pay off.

 

[Biggems]

with ellis possibly not coming back......Carpenter becomes that much more valuable. Also, Carp can play inside and out.....u dont give up on that kind of versatility.

 

[Angus]

Im saying the reason why he blows is because hes on a team that doesnt throw the ball. It would be like sending Randy Moss to Nebreska when they ran the option 80x a game I beileve in the 80's. No one would actually know how good he was until he was thrown into a pass oriented offense. Im not saying Im right either, basically, its a gamble that could pay off.

Wait to see if he is cut, and then see who tries to pick him up. I don't think it will be Dallas, even if he was available for nothing. Dallas wouldn't want to lose any of its promising young guys to make room for him, IMO.

 

[Biggems]

id take hurd and austin anyday over jones.

heck i havent even seen stanbeck play WR, but i would take him too.