I have to give Mike Zimmer his credit

HungryLion · 2024-12-22T22:55:34-0600

TheMarathonContinues said:
Can’t say that though because they are missing guys now. The question is the defense getting better or the competition worse?

I think it’s a combination to be honest. Defense is playing more disciplined. Completion is definitely worse too though.

stilltheguru · 2024-12-22T22:59:38-0600

TheMarathonContinues said:
Can’t say that though because they are missing guys now. The question is the defense getting better or the competition worse?

Competition? Dan Quinn defenses performed good vs top offenses?

For a dak apologist who likes to call out agendas and fake news you look mighty hypocritical regarding zimmer

TheMarathonContinues · 2024-12-22T23:00:43-0600

stilltheguru said:
His last year in Cincinnati they had 3rd ranked d. Can yall stop lying on the man and just say its personal? Good grief man

What lie did I tell? You have this love affair for him. That’s fine. I’ve said not one lie on him. It’s on record with how his players felt about him including the guy who came here to play with him.

We need a new head coach and that coach should bring in his own coaches.

ak47kaehu · 2024-12-22T23:01:57-0600

They just needed to get past the learning curve of the new scheme.....they stop the run, they lay the wood, they make plays on the ball. I want to see a second year with Zimm and a full cast of healthy players.

TheMarathonContinues · 2024-12-22T23:02:40-0600

HungryLion said:
I think it’s a combination to be honest. Defense is playing more disciplined. Completion is definitely worse too though.

No I agree. It’s natural to take some time for a new defense to work. I just hate that him coming back is contingent on Mike coming back as head coach.

stilltheguru · 2024-12-22T23:02:57-0600

TheMarathonContinues said:
What lie did I tell? You have this love affair for him. That’s fine. I’ve said not one lie on him. It’s on record with how his players felt about him including the guy who came here to play with him.

We need a new head coach and that coach should bring in his own coaches.

You said honeymoon like his defenses get bad over time. Kendrick basically said he was an awesome person. Ok? He knew better than to say he wasn't good at what he does though.

They edited the awesome person comment. He called Zimmer a bad word.

ClappingCarrot · 2024-12-22T23:04:09-0600

We never really got to see Zim with all of his horses and with an offense that put the other team behind so that he can do what he does best.

I haven't forgotten the blowouts, but the FO decided this offseason that depth wasn't that important.

HungryLion · 2024-12-22T23:04:10-0600

TheMarathonContinues said:
No I agree. It’s natural to take some time for a new defense to work. I just hate that him coming back is contingent on Mike coming back as head coach.

Typically this would be true.

Jerry is the owner though…… so ya never know. Lol

Tell me you couldn’t envision Jerry hiring Kellen Moore as HC but having him keep Zimmer as DC.

Sounds like the perfect Jerry move.

Chocolate Lab · 2024-12-22T23:04:14-0600

HungryLion said:
Bland is a turnover machine man.

For a while you wonder if it’s just a fluke or a lucky streak. But…. It’s not.

The dude just finds a way to get the football. Over and over and over again.

Truth.

Daron Bland plays, we win games. Check the stats.

TheMarathonContinues · 2024-12-22T23:04:30-0600

stilltheguru said:
Competition? Dan Quinn defenses performed good vs top offenses?

For a dak apologist who likes to call out agendas and fake news you look mighty hypocritical regarding zimmer

Now I’m a Dak apologist lol….all because I want a new DC. What the hell does Dan Quinn have to do with this?

ZekeTrain · 2024-12-22T23:04:47-0600

It took most of the season but Zim figured it out. I just wish he would figure out how to use Parsons better because him playing DE all game isn't working. At the end he was gassed and barely got off the ball a couple of plays.

This defense would be next level if it had a DT like Vitea Vea.

lukemartin79 · 2024-12-22T23:05:48-0600

HungryLion said:
Bland is a turnover machine man.

For a while you wonder if it’s just a fluke or a lucky streak. But…. It’s not.

The dude just finds a way to get the football. Over and over and over again.

No doubt about it, pure playmaker. He has been right from the start. I love having playmakers on the defensive side of the ball too.

TheMarathonContinues · 2024-12-22T23:06:06-0600

HungryLion said:
Typically this would be true.

Jerry is the owner though…… so ya never know. Lol

Tell me you couldn’t envision Jerry hiring Kellen Moore as HC but having him keep Zimmer as DC.

Sounds like the perfect Jerry move.

I mean the right move is to let a coach bring in his own DC….any other way is not smart. But it’s the Cowboys.

Whiskey Cowboy · 2024-12-22T23:07:02-0600

HungryLion said:
Agreed Zimmer is a good coach.

The issues with the cowboys defense are absolutely issues with the personnel.

Personnel, and it takes time to learn a complex defense like Zim's. Whatever happens at HC, it would be wise to bring him back next year and continue what he's started.

HungryLion · 2024-12-22T23:07:15-0600

lukemartin79 said:
No doubt about it, pure playmaker. He has been right from the start. I love having playmakers on the defensive side of the ball too.

Same here. I just assumed the cowboys culture would have sucked the playmaking life out of him by now.

jblaze2004 · 2024-12-22T23:07:44-0600

This defense is a big reason why we are winning these games. Which will buy McCarthy and Zimmer a 2-3 year contract extension I bet. (Which I hate).

stilltheguru · 2024-12-22T23:07:48-0600

TheMarathonContinues said:
Now I’m a Dak apologist lol….all because I want a new DC. What the hell does Dan Quinn have to do with this?

Next year when Zimmer has a top 10 defense I want you to be the first one apologizing. No ifs or buts

lukemartin79 · 2024-12-22T23:10:05-0600

TheMarathonContinues said:
What lie did I tell? You have this love affair for him. That’s fine. I’ve said not one lie on him. It’s on record with how his players felt about him including the guy who came here to play with him.

We need a new head coach and that coach should bring in his own coaches.

I agree. If you re going to pay Dak that much and have him for tha

HungryLion said:
Same here. I just assumed the cowboys culture would have sucked the playmaking life out of him by now.

Yes, great point. Me too, don't want him turning out like Diggs. Getting the big $, then not even bothering to tackle anymore- what the hell was that?

nobody · 2024-12-22T23:12:39-0600

ZekeTrain said:
It took most of the season but Zim figured it out. I just wish he would figure out how to use Parsons better because him playing DE all game isn't working. At the end he was gassed and barely got off the ball a couple of plays.

This defense would be next level if it had a DT like Vitea Vea.

It doesn't help that Parsons was getting held all game and it wasn't called.

Carson · 2024-12-22T23:12:43-0600

WTtoolman said:
Let's not forget Donovan Wilson laying the wood!!

That’s what Wilson does best.

Rush the QB, stay close to the LOS and lay the lumber.

They kept him in space earlier this year and it showed.

I have to give Mike Zimmer his credit

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