I Just Don't See A Huge Gap Between Dak and Rush

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Then get your eyes checked. The gap isn't what it once was and it's closing as Dak puts on years and accumulates injuries, but Rush is a career "just good enough" back-up with a noodle arm and no athleticism. I swear recency bias is a major social affliction these days. And this is not coming from a Dak fan.
 

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......and there we come full circle. With just a 4 year contract, $40m CAP still outstanding and very little chance he'll get another contract (which restricts the restructure as the bill needs to be paid in full), Dak's not getting that Defense and Run Game, maybe he should up his game to the level of the contract, rather than just above replacement level.

Whenever Jerry tries to put the onus on Dak, he comes up short, (eg. before/after Amari).....it's the Jerry 'Pay and Hope' strategy. Dak just needs too much (everything) to succeed (eg 2023 all round good roster), but the guy just doesnt have the mental fortitude and composure when it matters.....that's the problem.
The defense has been playing very well lately, the run game has been rolling (not vs Tampa Bay).... and Dak's cap hit hasn't changed.

In fact, his 2024 cap hit is lower than his 2023 cap hit.

Dak's cap hit can be reduced by $36M next year.

It's time you people learn that it's not Dak's fault that Jerry and Stephen are incompetent clowns.

"Dak's contract" isn't preventing anything, but kudos on being suckered into thinking so by the Joneses.

Say, what was the excuse for their cheapness back when Dak was on his rookie deal???? Remind me.
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LOL, Mvp runner up? It's funny some people bring up something that doesn't matter. 2nd place isn't a win.

Always excuess, They still have injuries and Dak isn't missed. The Cowboys actually look better.

It's obvious he is washed. He is older and the injuries don't get better with age. You can believe what you want, but the results will be seen.
Dak is going into his 10th year and he is injury prone.
He was literally the MVP runner-up last year, no matter how much that fact hurts your tiny little feelings.

It "means" that he was terrific in the 2023 regular season. Again, I'm sorry that you're insulted by Dak kicking your teeth in.
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Keep crying when he bounces back with another great 2025 regular season. You'll be proven dead wrong about him being "washed."

"B-b-but this doesn't matter, you guys!!
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C Cooper Beebe's PFF grade by week:
Weeks 1-6: 55.4
Weeks 7-16: 71.6

The team, O line specifically has improved as the season progressed.

Not accurate. Some fans will try to suggest the team is no different, just the change at QB. Grossly incorrect.
O line improved last year after Dak was blowing chunks when the 49ers destroyed them. In fact, they were among the healthiest O-lives in the league by mid-season. Dak still sucked against good teams to end the season.

Very few QBs have had the fortune to play with an OL as good as Dak has had his whole career here and 1 thing hasn’t changed.. he still can’t read a defense and throw against zone and is slow processing the field.

Bad OL play just exposes how bad he really is at these things….
 

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O line improved last year after Dak was blowing chunks when the 49ers destroyed them. In fact, they were among the healthiest O-lives in the league by mid-season. Dak still sucked against good teams to end the season.

Very few QBs have had the fortune to play with an OL as good as Dak has had his whole career here and 1 thing hasn’t changed.. he still can’t read a defense and throw against zone and is slow processing the field.

Bad OL play just exposes how bad he really is at these things….
I think everyone knows Dak is more talented but this year when you look at the cap there’s not that much difference it’s sad, but Dak is starting next 3 years unless a new HC has the guts to bench him and we know that’s not going to happen this is what 57.5 a season gets you in Jerry’s world
Dak
  • YDS 1,978 29th TD11 Tied-27th
  • INT 8 Tied-75th
  • QBR 46.7 30th
    Rush
    • YDS 1,697 33rd TD 11
      Tied-27th
    • INT 3 Tied-56th
    • QBR 40.8 31st
 

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Rush has better protection and the WRs are now getting more separation.
So how exactly...is that magically happening NOW?

They couldn't get separation for Dak? Why not? They suddenly figured out how to get separation?

Cooper hater.
 

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I think everyone knows Dak is more talented but this year when you look at the cap there’s not that much difference it’s sad, but Dak is starting next 3 years unless a new HC has the guts to bench him and we know that’s not going to happen this is what 57.5 a season gets you in Jerry’s world
Dak
  • YDS 1,978 29th TD11 Tied-27th
  • INT 8 Tied-75th
  • QBR 46.7 30th
    Rush
    • YDS 1,697 33rd TD 11
      Tied-27th
    • INT 3 Tied-56th
    • QBR 40.8 31st
Yep.. Rush just been proving the Dak experiment needs to end. If Rush had an arm, he’d be starting on plenty of teams, but with his noodle arm, he’s not stretching defenses enough to get one deep into the playoffs, even if he had a solid roster.
 

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He was literally the MVP runner-up last year, no matter how much that fact hurts your tiny little feelings.

It "means" that he was terrific in the 2023 regular season. Again, I'm sorry that you're insulted by Dak kicking your teeth in.
:thumbup:

Keep crying when he bounces back with another great 2025 regular season. You'll be proven dead wrong about him being "washed."

"B-b-but this doesn't matter, you guys!!
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I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. Yeah, he was the runner up: who had zero number one votes in the MVP vote. Not one number one. Someone who ranked lower than him even got a number one vote. It wasn't even a close vote. He was a runner up, but to tote it as some accomplishment without specifics is kind of silly since Dak wasn't ever going to get MVP.

His play this year was light years different than last year. He's always been a good regular season QB. This year was different. And with the extent of his injury this year that required surgery and his age, I don't see him bouncing back as much as you do. Since Jerry loves the guy (even if he's a choker when it matters in the playoffs), I hope he fully recovers. He'll be the starter so his success is the Cowboys success. I just don't have any faith in him. He's at the point Romo was at the end. It might be time for him to hang up the cleats for his own long-term health so he can raise kids without excessive pain every time he moves. But until he does, I'll hope he helps the team win...I just have zero belief he'll step up when it matters.
 

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…Between Dak without use of his legs and Rush. Dak still might be better but they don’t seem that different.

Rush started awful, but he also has game snaps equivalent to a rookie in the NFL, and he has improved every week. He throws some dirt balls and frustratingly behind players on routes, but so does Dak. He makes some stupid throws but so does Dak.

It’s only my eyeball opinion. Curious what others think
I can't tell what is worse Jerry or our fan base. Maybe they are made for each other.
 

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So how exactly...is that magically happening NOW?

They couldn't get separation for Dak? Why not? They suddenly figured out how to get separation?

Cooper hater.
I agree with this. One thing Cooper does better than Dak IMHO is throwing with anticipation. Dak usually waits until he sees an open receiver to throw and Cooper will make the throw purely of coverage and anticipation (which bit him on a slant a couple games back when CD got caught up and he threw an INT).
 

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Then get your eyes checked. The gap isn't what it once was and it's closing as Dak puts on years and accumulates injuries, but Rush is a career "just good enough" back-up with a noodle arm and no athleticism. I swear recency bias is a major social affliction these days. And this is not coming from a Dak fan.
But recency is all that matters in this league. Do you want to start Zeke because he used to be good? People ostracized me last year for saying I thought Martin was just average, but now look at how the OL plays when he ISNT there. Recency matters.

Dak without his legs does not seem very effective to me. He played objectively bad before his injury. Even McCarthys offense was tailored to help Dak move around. Don’t get me wrong, Cooper has also had multiple bad games but has improved each week. I’m just saying there’s not much difference between Rush and Dak in 2024
 

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I will ask the question I keep asking ............If you could cut Dak, would you sign Rush to a long-term deal for $38M ( franchise tag ) and make him your starting QB for the next few years?
Just a few games ago, some fans were calling for Lance to start coz Rush was "trash". Now after a few games we are back to Rush but now he's an NFL starting QB.

Are you willing to trust your team/season off such small samples ..........NOT a coach/GM in the league would trust Cooper Rush with their season/team over a healthy Dak Prescott. Yet here are Cowboys talking about not the possibility BUT probability......... :banghead:

And for those who say players play harder for Rush.......of course, they do, that's nothing new. It's called teamwork ........any coach will tell you when he loses a key player, he going to remind the team all players need to pick it up a notch to help backups. ( Extra effort, block, fight for extra yards ).
Some of you don’t see the big picture. It’s not necessarily Rush you think about signing. Rush will never be a 4 year 30 million guy, he’s a OK backup. But Dak isn’t a 4 year 200 million guy. If we were paying Dak 30-40 million per year, I’d be fine with it. This forced experiment shows you that you could win with a lower paid QB and then put some quality guys around him with that extra money. Jerry didn’t learn his lesson with Zeke like he should have. He overspends and then watches catastrophe happen.
 

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O line improved last year after Dak was blowing chunks when the 49ers destroyed them. In fact, they were among the healthiest O-lives in the league by mid-season. Dak still sucked against good teams to end the season.

Very few QBs have had the fortune to play with an OL as good as Dak has had his whole career here and 1 thing hasn’t changed.. he still can’t read a defense and throw against zone and is slow processing the field.

Bad OL play just exposes how bad he really is at these things….
"I believe you!"
 
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