I Just Don't See A Huge Gap Between Dak and Rush

garyo1954

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The offense with Rush looked a good deal like Miami (or like Green Bay with Big Mac and ARod).

Plus Rush can work from under center which is an added wrinkle.

Yeah, people moan about the short passes but it allows you to eat up clock (and wasn't those quick scores a problem with Kellen Moore)?

Imagine this is .ore the offense Big Mac envisioned when he took the job. He didn't know at the time Qak couldn't make quick decisions.

Still won't say one is better than the other. If you have a defense getting turnovers and not getting gassed with long drives it doesn't matter how quick you score.
 

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The offense with Rush looked a good deal like Miami (or like Green Bay with Big Mac and ARod).

Plus Rush can work from under center which is an added wrinkle.

Yeah, people moan about the short passes but it allows you to eat up clock (and wasn't those quick scores a problem with Kellen Moore)?

Imagine this is .ore the offense Big Mac envisioned when he took the job. He didn't know at the time Qak couldn't make quick decisions.

Still won't say one is better than the other. If you have a defense getting turnovers and not getting gassed with long drives it doesn't matter how quick you score.
Yes it does. Super bowls are being lost because a teams scores too quickly. ATL and SF have both recently lost super bowls because their D was gassed in the 4th because the O scored too quickly. High flying downfield passing game very very seldom wins super bowls.

Whomever is complaining about the short passes need to turn in their football card and take up a different sport.
 

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So how exactly...is that magically happening NOW?

They couldn't get separation for Dak? Why not? They suddenly figured out how to get separation?

Cooper hater.
For the last time, I'm happy Rush is holding it together, but you would have to make an attempt to understand the X's and O's, but you can't. You passive aggressively dance around everything Dak Prescott.
What an idiotic way of thinking, day in and day out.
Projection is your response.
I recommend you search the data that's all over the place and teach yourself why a player and/or team can improve throughout a season with different roster moves, injuries, coaching, schemes etc.
You won't. Your posts are both lazy and just an attempt to incite others who don't hate Prescott for whatever weird reason some of you do.
 

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For the last time, I'm happy Rush is holding it together, but you would have to make an attempt to understand the X's and O's, but you can't. You passive aggressively dance around everything Dak Prescott.
What an idiotic way of thinking, day in and day out.
Projection is your response.
I recommend you search the data that's all over the place and teach yourself why a player and/or team can improve throughout a season with different roster moves, injuries, coaching, schemes etc.
You won't. Your posts are both lazy and just an attempt to incite others who don't hate Prescott for whatever weird reason some of you do.
Hope you and yours have a very Merry Christmas.
 

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Yes it does. Super bowls are being lost because a teams scores too quickly. ATL and SF have both recently lost super bowls because their D was gassed in the 4th because the O scored too quickly. High flying downfield passing game very very seldom wins super bowls.

Whomever is complaining about the short passes need to turn in their football card and take up a different sport.
Exactly. I mean...even if you only get 3 or don't even score...long drives control the clock, keeps your defense rested and their offense off the field.
 

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Between a legit franchise QB & a backup there would be a clear difference.

Too many people look at this as elevating Coop when in reality it more directly proves that the starter isn't anything you should have invested in or be trying to build around. Both are backup, low end starter quality.
 

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We are just in a bad place quarterback wise DAk is aging in dog years and will be approaching romo's predicament at the end of his career.
Where the injuries have just piled up and he is much less mobile and not able to protect himself.

I really do like Rush but OMG this poor man has no arm strength and somehow survives in spite of himself.
But to his credit the team rallies around him like he's Michael Jordan and they play their hearts out for him and make spectacular plays where conversely they have dropped the ball on Dak and really made him look worse than he was.

All that said we need to use a high pick on a quarterback and should make it a policy to draft and develop quarterbacks so we don't get left in this predicament every 10 years
Really good summary. Rush survives and even thrives in spite of his arm. Super fast release to short-range targets, extremely good ball security. His downfield throws only come when he can get a pocket and step into it.
Dak has a much stronger arm, in theory should be a much better running QB, but tries to make bigger plays than are there, aims at way too many tight windows, and misses easier targets. Bag ball security. So the team will do better in the regular season with Rush, but would have no chance with him in the playoffs where the stars have to step up.
 

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Really good summary. Rush survives and even thrives in spite of his arm. Super fast release to short-range targets, extremely good ball security. His downfield throws only come when he can get a pocket and step into it.
Dak has a much stronger arm, in theory should be a much better running QB, but tries to make bigger plays than are there, aims at way too many tight windows, and misses easier targets. Bag ball security. So the team will do better in the regular season with Rush, but would have no chance with him in the playoffs where the stars have to step up.
Agreed brother in the playoffs he would just be forced to have to make throws that I don't believe his arm is capable of making.
 

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He should still be able to run after he heals up. Let’s face it he didn’t run that much since the horrific ankle injury. If he didn’t have that ankle injury he would be a lot more dangerous. But his arm and accuracy is much better than Rush. Even if he doesn’t run at all after this latest injury he will still be a top 10 QB. Worth the money. I personally don’t think any QB is worth the money they are getting paid. The NFL should put a cap on each player. Each position should have a % of the cap. Starters get that or up to that %.. It goes up equally as the cap goes up..
 

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He should still be able to run after he heals up. Let’s face it he didn’t run that much since the horrific ankle injury. If he didn’t have that ankle injury he would be a lot more dangerous. But his arm and accuracy is much better than Rush. Even if he doesn’t run at all after this latest injury he will still be a top 10 QB. Worth the money. I personally don’t think any QB is worth the money they are getting paid. The NFL should put a cap on each player. Each position should have a % of the cap. Starters get that or up to that %.. It goes up equally as the cap goes up..
Arm? Yes. Accuracy? No.
 

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Really good summary. Rush survives and even thrives in spite of his arm. Super fast release to short-range targets, extremely good ball security. His downfield throws only come when he can get a pocket and step into it.
Dak has a much stronger arm, in theory should be a much better running QB, but tries to make bigger plays than are there, aims at way too many tight windows, and misses easier targets. Bag ball security. So the team will do better in the regular season with Rush, but would have no chance with him in the playoffs where the stars have to step up.
Dak doesn't read the D quickly enough for the short passing game. Thing is, if you don't see that LB/S, it's a pick 6.
 

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…Between Dak without use of his legs and Rush. Dak still might be better but they don’t seem that different.

Rush started awful, but he also has game snaps equivalent to a rookie in the NFL, and he has improved every week. He throws some dirt balls and frustratingly behind players on routes, but so does Dak. He makes some stupid throws but so does Dak.

It’s only my eyeball opinion. Curious what others think
If we could somehow trade Dak for a first rounder, this off-season, I would be ecstatic.
 
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