I miss hard-nosed coaching

[Hardline]

Coaches are just better at keeping that stuff off camera these days. Players still get their ***** lit up at times.

That being said, the level of play in the NFL has never been better. The league is less “sloppy” by any meaningful definition of the word than it ever has been. And to any extent/definition it isn’t, it’s largely due to the expanded rule book.

This is just “back in my day” silliness

Actually it's a lot worse. Almost unwatchable.

 

[Diehardblues]

This is the Entertainment Era of professional sports .

With tens and hundreds of millions approaching billions invested in individual athletes , there’s a completely different approach required.

 

[foofighters]

This is not a Romo thread. This is a Bill Parcells thread. Fast forward to the Parcells portion of the video.

Can't do this anymore. Now you have to hug them and blow sunshine up their butts, or they'll quit on you. That's why so many coaches now look like 28-year-old IT guys.

Building character and discipline is a lost art in football. The sloppy nonsense of today gets hard to watch.

Meh, BP wasn't all that. Barry Switzer won a ring too. The list goes on and on about coaches who got a ring. It's no different than Eli Manning winning a couple rings. Doesn't make them great. More just lucky to have good timing.

 

[Hardline]

It's the feminization of society.

The pussification of America. These people complaining here probably wear skinny jeans,drink White Claw beer,think Nickelback is a metal band and have a man bun.

 

[erod]

Meh, BP wasn't all that. Barry Switzer won a ring too. The list goes on and on about coaches who got a ring. It's no different than Eli Manning winning a couple rings. Doesn't make them great. More just lucky to have good timing.

Parcells took a longtime losing Giants franchise to multiple Super Bowls.

Then he took the awful Patriots to the Super Bowl.

Then he made the Jets a legitimate contender.

Then he took the lowly Cowboys to the playoffs with Quincy freaking Carter at quarterback.

And lastly, he identified Romo when the team was focused on Chutch and Drew Henson.

He is the greatest coach in NFL history.

 

[foofighters]

Parcells took a longtime losing Giants franchise to multiple Super Bowls.

Then he took the awful Patriots to the Super Bowl.

Then he made the Jets a legitimate contender.

Then he took the lowly Cowboys to the playoffs with Quincy freaking Carter at quarterback.

And lastly, he identified Romo when the team was focused on Chutch and Drew Henson.

He is the greatest coach in NFL history.

I'd argue that this more timing than anything else. If he was all that, his record wouldn't be close to .500 here. Also, wasn't it Sean Peyton that had more to do with Romo than BP?

 

[Diehardblues]

Parcells is one of the greatest HC in NFL history.

If you believe he’s the greatest it’s mere opinion. Which is fine . We are all entitled to one .

 

[Diehardblues]

I'd argue that this more timing than anything else. If he was all that, his record wouldn't be close to .500 here. Also, wasn't it Sean Peyton that had more to do with Romo than BP?

And really Romo was basically just his last option .

But I see where this is all coming from now. E thinks Bill should be credited for finding and then inserting E’s fav player this era . Which would in his mind make him the greatest.

 

[erod]

I'd argue that this more timing than anything else. If he was all that, his record wouldn't be close to .500 here. Also, wasn't it Sean Peyton that had more to do with Romo than BP?

Oh my God....

He inherited a team here that went 5-11 three years in a row and immediately took them to 10-6 with a brain-dead quarterback.

Payton found Romo in college, but it was Parcells who groomed him when the franchise wanted to cut him.

 

[foofighters]

Oh my God....

He inherited a team here that went 5-11 three years in a row and immediately took them to 10-6 with a brain-dead quarterback.

Payton found Romo in college, but it was Parcells who groomed him when the franchise wanted to cut him.

Since when are we measuring greatness with mediocre results? BP didn't do anymore for this franchise than JG did.

 

[Diehardblues]

Oh my God....

He inherited a team here that went 5-11 three years in a row and immediately took them to 10-6 with a brain-dead quarterback.

And that was no doubt arguably one of the best coaching jobs for the Cowboys we’ve seen since Jimmy was here.

He also rebuilt the Cowboys into a playoff contender again. But he wasn’t able to get us over the hump.

He did set the stage for what success we had following his departure but in the end he was discouraged by our owners meddling and left before the job was done .

Bill no doubt our greatest HC this era resurrecting us from the 5-11 Funk. Unfortunately we didn’t have any more success than the lesser HC’s who have followed.

And the meddling and undermining has become worse than with Bill. I’m not sure there’s a real solution here while Jethro and Son are in charge.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Hugs are exactly that coaching is about today.

Ray Nitchke could have used a hug

 

[Diehardblues]

Ray Nitchke could have used a hug

Funny. But the point is those players back in that era were treated like crap. With the exception of a few of the most elite players.

Most need regular jobs in offseason. I can even recall my dad and uncle in the 70’s laughing how they made more than Staubach and Lilly , saying they’d never risk their body’s for what they were making.

My uncle in early 60’s turned down an offer to play for Lombardi and the Packers because it wasn’t enough money to move his family to Green Bay.

 

[Denim Chicken]

This is not a Romo thread. This is a Bill Parcells thread. Fast forward to the Parcells portion of the video.

Can't do this anymore. Now you have to hug them and blow sunshine up their butts, or they'll quit on you. That's why so many coaches now look like 28-year-old IT guys.

Building character and discipline is a lost art in football. The sloppy nonsense of today gets hard to watch.

Jerry doesn't like a well managed football teams. Takes the focus of of his antics.

 

[stuckindc]

Some coaches don’t have to be hard nosed like Landry and Bill B. They just give you a stare and that’s when you know you failed them.

Or you get sent the asthma field

 

[TWOK11]

Actually it's a lot worse. Almost unwatchable.

Again, such a preposterous claim

Name ANY objective metric by which the product on the field is worse now compared to decades past?

Quarterbacks are better by every available metric. Receivers drop fewer passes. Kickers miss far fewer kicks at every distance (kicking is almost automatic now) and convert far more long field goals. Punting is better than it has ever been. Pre snap penalties are lower league wide than they once were. The athletes are just much better and more refined.

The only thing that is “worse” is the average number of penalties per game and that’s a function of more things being labeled as fouls than at any point in the past.

 

[pete026]

Erod internet porn.

Opening post reads like the creepy guy that gets caught on the computer at midnight.

"But, But, I was looking for an Easter dress for little Emily and the stupid computer somehow jumped to this?"

 

[TWOK11]

Wow. Wrong. Delusionally wrong.

Coaches have no power today.

Just because our coaches don’t doesn’t mean they don’t elsewhere.

It’s most readily seen at the college level though admittedly. Elite college coaches remain complete autocrats who rule over their programs as kings and dictators. Nick Saban and Dabo Swinney have more power at their respective universities than the school president, BOR or chancellor.

 

[eromeopolk]

This is not a Romo thread. This is a Bill Parcells thread. Fast forward to the Parcells portion of the video.

Can't do this anymore. Now you have to hug them and blow sunshine up their butts, or they'll quit on you. That's why so many coaches now look like 28-year-old IT guys.

Building character and discipline is a lost art in football. The sloppy nonsense of today gets hard to watch.

Bruce Arians, Andy Reid, Dan Campbell, Todd Bowles, Bill Belichick, Mike Tomlin, Harbaugh, etc. are still around and winning.

 

[CouchCoach]

Keeping their stars happy is the name of the game in all pro sports and now with the NIL effect and portal, it is in college sports.

The day of the DI coach like Coughlin and Parcells is over. Hell, Coughlin had to take his team bowling to keep his job.

But that back in the day stuff treated these players like property.

It isn’t just sports, it was a societal shift. Horrible bosses created hostile work environments.