I question the maturity, focus and mental toughness of this operation

[Hostile]

You never know what is going to happen when you start a season..and I doubt anybody would have predicted that we would be where we are right now. Mainly because we had a 1st year full time starter at QB, new head coach....new first time defensive coordinator...new first time offensive coordinator. But we are in the moment now, and I don't think we are as prepared for this becaue while players all say their goal is the Super Bowl..the facts are we have not even won a playoff game in over a decade..so achieving that would be a first step.

And this as not just a shot at the players...I question the coaches as well. I was distrubed to hear Wade suggest in hindsight we should have run the ball more...I mean, most knoweldgable fans were sitting in their living room screaming that....but was Wade afraid to question Garrett? I mean who is the Head Coach here? And it was also very disturbing to hear the Eagles players suggest the Cowboys did not restpect them. Is it just talk from a team going nowhere after they beat you..probably to a degree, but I think their is some truth to it. And it is being validated this week when all everyone wants to talk about is Jessica Simpson, Roy's suspension, rash of injuries and whether or not we agree with the horsecollar rule. The media can ask all the stupid questions they want, but a mature focused team would deflect and say they are here to talk about the Carolina Panthers...the Eagles game is gone...the suspension has been handed out....the injured guys are going to sit and the next guy needs to come in and play.

The Panthers are licking their chops to have another division leader come to town...with 12 Pro Bowlers in tow. They need to be the focus. In case you missed it...the basically owned the Seahawks last week.

The Pats and maybe even the Pack are sitting back laughing at all the dumb stuff we are talking about that has nothing to do with the game Saturday.

I am greatful for the season we are having....but in all honesty...we have the talent to be in the position we are in..especially in the NFC, but I am not sure we have a grasp on how desperatley everyone wants to knock that grin off Romos face..or how desperatley people want to see our 12 Pro Bowlers put in their place..or how desperatley people want to see Wade fail because this is Parcells team

We better get our mind right and understand that we get everyone best shot and if we do not match thier intesinty on the practice field, in constructing the game plan, in the film room, and finally on the field...we can and will have our entire season come crashing down and NO ONE will care that we were 12-2 at one point...no one will allow us to use the first year head coach, qb and coordinators as an excuse....it is time to focus on playing for the prize

I swear, a bunch of people need to get their resumes together and save this franchise form itself.

Heroes unite!

 

[theebs]

I think even if the 'boys won it all, that folks would still find flaws with how they won the game. Probably even have a problem with how they lifted the Lombardi trophy, too.

/random thought off

I agree,

or they would see someone on espn say something negative about the post game speech and then we would have 30 different threads debating post game speech protocol based on what an espn analyst.

then a week after the superbowl SI or espn will have a report how Dallas isnt favored to win it next year and there would be 10 threads on all the stuff we have done wrong in the 7 days since the superbowl.

 

[Bach]

Dallas has already beaten Green Bay; therefore, Salisbury is wrong if your recollection of his statement is correct.

I haven't seen a lot of GB games this year, but I do know that most of the first half against us the announcers kept saying how GB was going totally away from what they did most of the season by constantly trying to hit the home run.

Once Favre left and Rodgers came in, they started running their typical offense and they did a good job carving up our defense.

I'd venture to say that if we meet them again, they won't deviate as much from their normal scheme, which should make it tougher for us.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Harsh, but true.

And, enevitably, the myopic and naive (idiots) will say: We are 12-2!
It could easily be 10-4 or even 9-5 and struggling to win the weak NFC East.

12-2 or 14-2 won't do you any good if you show up at the playoffs with an inconsistent defense and the specter of a Romo having a day like in Buffalo or Detroit.

12-2? Hooray!
But the real season begins in the playoffs.

you get it...too many people think we are sitting back waiting for "things" to happen...but that is not the case...these "things" are "happening"...how you finish the season an enter the playoffs is important..especially for a team that has not won a playoff game in over a decade...and especially from a team that not many envisioned would be 12-2....we don't need anything to create self doubt...and the fact that we are talking about everything BUT the Panthers concerns me

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

What?

12-2 is a fact. I have never heard of anyone being called an idiot and/or naive for stating a fact.

.

Oops. I meant to write idiot savants. Really smart people who know all the facts. Sorry.
I'm from FB, home of the Fighting Idiots, so anytime I write "idiots" it's also meant as a term of endearment, ahem. Like, right now, I could call you an idiot and it would mean "my hale fellow" or "my brutha from another mother." Well, you get the point.

As per struggling to win the NFC east, that was in the context of what could easily be a 9-5 record so far.

I am thrilled with 12-2 but cautious as to thinking we could sleepwalk thrugh the rest of December and into the playoffs. Again, anytime EITHER the defense or the offense does not show up during the playoffs, we're in trouble. Trouble with a Capital P. I mean T.

 

[Trendnet]

how you finish the season an enter the playoffs is important..especially for a team that has not won a playoff game in over a decade...and especially from a team that not many envisioned would be 12-2....we don't need anything to create self doubt...and the fact that we are talking about everything BUT the Panthers concerns me

Well.. the season isn't over.

And who's the we you are referring to?

The fans on a message board? If you're that concerned about it, shouldn't you start a thread about the Panthers?

Or you do mean we as in "the Cowboys organization?". I'm quite confident they are taking the Panthers seriously...

Romo bounced back from a crappy Buffalo game. The Cowboys bounced back from the Patriots.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I haven't seen a lot of GB games this year, but I do know that most of the first half against us the announcers kept saying how GB was going totally away from what they did most of the season by constantly trying to hit the home run.

And do you think that maybe, just maybe, the play of Dallas' defense may have forced Green Bays' offense to play differently than they had been playing?

Throwing short was not the sole reason Rogers moved the ball as well as he did. Rather, it was his ability to scramble that slowed Dallas' pass rush and forced its secondary to play softer than normal.

 

[Sarge]

Ridiculous.

Sure is. Are we not 12-2?

 

[03EBZ06]

Sure is. Are we not 12-2?

With so many alamists on this site, we must be 8-6 backing into the playoffs.

We lose one stinkin game and sky is falling, what a joke.

 

[smarta5150]

With so many alamists on this site, we must be 8-6 backing into the playoffs.

We lose one stinkin game and sky is falling, what a joke.

For real, if my grandma read this forum she would think the Cowboys are a struggling team.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Question the maturity if we're 7-6 and blowing some games that we should've won. Questioning the maturity of a team that is 12-2 and doesn't have any off the field incidents is pretty ridiculous.

Not to mention that one of the losses could be blamed for Romo's life off the field, but he also injured his thumb in that game.



YAKUZA

 

[Bach]

And do you think that maybe, just maybe, the play of Dallas' defense may have forced Green Bays' offense to play differently than they had been playing?

No. Green Bay came out in the first half throwing deep on numerous occasions. They changed what they normally did. The front seven did a good job getting pressure on Farve, but he was deep quite a bit. With that pressure it would've been easier for him to have gone to the shorter, underneath routes.

 

[Bach]

With so many alamists on this site, we must be 8-6 backing into the playoffs.

We lose one stinkin game and sky is falling, what a joke.

Who besides drama queens like you said the sky was falling?

But yes, there is some cause for concern. It's not like last week was the first game we didn't play well. Did you not watch the first 59 minutes of the Detroit game. Or the Packers game once Farve left?

It's not just one game, it's the last 2.5+. Does it mean anything? We shall see. But based on our performance down the stretch most of the last decade, I can certainly understand fans being concerned.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

No. Green Bay came out in the first half throwing deep on numerous occasions. They changed what they normally did. The front seven did a good job getting pressure on Farve, but he was deep quite a bit. With that pressure it would've been easier for him to have gone to the shorter, underneath routes.

Not really. A defense doesn't necessarily sacrifice underneath coverage simply because it's generating good pressure with its front seven. For instance, during the Eagles' game, Dallas sacked and pressured McNabb several times yet still managed to take away shorter routes by playing tight, man coverage.

Early during the Green Bay, Dallas was pressuring Favre relentlessly and taking away his shorter throws. However, after Favre's exodus, the Cowboy defense was forced to play zone and maintain lane integrity in the front seven because Aaron Rogers brought an element of mobility that was lacking in Favre. This approach allowed shorter completions.

 

[silverbear]

You never know what is going to happen when you start a season..and I doubt anybody would have predicted that we would be where we are right now. Mainly because we had a 1st year full time starter at QB, new head coach....new first time defensive coordinator...new first time offensive coordinator. But we are in the moment now, and I don't think we are as prepared for this becaue while players all say their goal is the Super Bowl..the facts are we have not even won a playoff game in over a decade..so achieving that would be a first step.

And this as not just a shot at the players...I question the coaches as well. I was distrubed to hear Wade suggest in hindsight we should have run the ball more...I mean, most knoweldgable fans were sitting in their living room screaming that....but was Wade afraid to question Garrett? I mean who is the Head Coach here? And it was also very disturbing to hear the Eagles players suggest the Cowboys did not restpect them. Is it just talk from a team going nowhere after they beat you..probably to a degree, but I think their is some truth to it. And it is being validated this week when all everyone wants to talk about is Jessica Simpson, Roy's suspension, rash of injuries and whether or not we agree with the horsecollar rule. The media can ask all the stupid questions they want, but a mature focused team would deflect and say they are here to talk about the Carolina Panthers...the Eagles game is gone...the suspension has been handed out....the injured guys are going to sit and the next guy needs to come in and play.

The Panthers are licking their chops to have another division leader come to town...with 12 Pro Bowlers in tow. They need to be the focus. In case you missed it...the basically owned the Seahawks last week.

The Pats and maybe even the Pack are sitting back laughing at all the dumb stuff we are talking about that has nothing to do with the game Saturday.

I am greatful for the season we are having....but in all honesty...we have the talent to be in the position we are in..especially in the NFC, but I am not sure we have a grasp on how desperatley everyone wants to knock that grin off Romos face..or how desperatley people want to see our 12 Pro Bowlers put in their place..or how desperatley people want to see Wade fail because this is Parcells team

We better get our mind right and understand that we get everyone best shot and if we do not match thier intesinty on the practice field, in constructing the game plan, in the film room, and finally on the field...we can and will have our entire season come crashing down and NO ONE will care that we were 12-2 at one point...no one will allow us to use the first year head coach, qb and coordinators as an excuse....it is time to focus on playing for the prize

Bwaaaaak... the sky is falling...

Bwaaaaak... the sky is falling...

Bwaaaaak... the sky is falling...

 

[FloridaRob]

Not really. A defense doesn't necessarily sacrifice underneath coverage simply because it's generating good pressure with its front seven. For instance, during the Eagles' game, Dallas sacked and pressured McNabb several times yet still managed to take away shorter routes by playing tight, man coverage.

Early during the Green Bay, Dallas was pressuring Favre relentlessly and taking away his shorter throws. However, after Favre's exodus, the Cowboy defense was forced to play zone and maintain lane integrity in the front seven because Aaron Rogers brought an element of mobility that was lacking in Favre. This approach allowed shorter completions.

this makes no sense to me. If the Cowboys are having relentess pressure on a QB, then the response to that IS for the QB to throw quick passes. Green Bay entered that game attacking deep. I don't know why they were doing that but that was the game plan. Dallas didn't take the short pass away, Mike McCarthy did with the play calling. Pressure on a Qb does not allow for a deep passing game. 7 step drops are not condusive to constant pressure from a defense.

 

[silverbear]

let's be factual here....I said Parcells did not tolerate the stupid penalties like Kevin Burnett go that could have cost us a game...and I think we are still one of the worst penalized teams in the NFL

I simpley asked the Zoners if Terrance Newman was worth Nate Clemments money...and I think it is a fair question...I LOVE Newman...but I admit he always leaves me saying "almost"....he again dropped a pick 6.

I said I am very concerned about the defense against spread offenses...and I am not the only one...Sean Salibury has already stated we cannot beat the Packers because they will spread us out and torch us....of course I do not hope this happens...but it is a legitimate concern

I never said Romo was not worth big money...I was just responding to rumors that he was asking for Peyton Manning money...which he is and was not worth

To sum it up....the chances for this team are so good I can taste. We are ALL starving for the big prize...and as a lifelong fan, I am just hoping some of these things can get cleaned up because I truly feel we will not win the big prize if they don't. And yes, I started this thread because I do NOT think Carolina is going to lay down for us and I am concerend that the Cowboys are not taking them serious enough.

The point is, with you it's one gloom and doom, Chicken Little post after another...

The truth is, NOBODY thought the Cowboys had a legit shot at what you call the "big prize" going into this season, so them getting to the point where you're now talking about that possibility with a straight face should suggest to you that their season has already been more successful than even the optimists among us could have hoped for back in August...

As for you whining that the Cowboys aren't taking the Panthers seriously enough, that's beyond ASININE... you're not in their locker room, you have absolutely no idea what the team's mindset is these days... nope, you're just in full-blown Chicken Little mode...

 

[silverbear]

I think even if the 'boys won it all, that folks would still find flaws with how they won the game. Probably even have a problem with how they lifted the Lombardi trophy, too.

/random thought off

Some posters in here are gonna carry a bruise from that shot for a loooong time... LOL...

 

[silverbear]

Dallas has already beaten Green Bay; therefore, Salisbury is wrong if your recollection of his statement is correct.

Of course it is... Salisbury has been a moron for a long time now, but our resident Chicken Little accepts all gloom and doom comments without criticism... he WANTS to believe the Boys are in deep doo-doo...

 

[silverbear]

....we don't need anything to create self doubt...

And yet, that's precisely what you do, with each and every Chicken Little post...

and the fact that we are talking about everything BUT the Panthers concerns me

What WE'RE talking about is utterly irrelevant... and once again, for all your pitiful bleating, you don't have the first clue what the PLAYERS are talking about this week...

Basically, you come off as the kind of warrior who ducks into a foxhole when he sees his own shadow...