I refuse to believe we don't have talent

JoeBoBBY

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This is what we are. Its not changing...........we will have a good year, every now and then. but overall. We lose. We are a losing franchise.....with owners who cant win.

we are the Commanders. Raiders. Browns,,,,
 

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Huh? I thought Parcells last year was the year Romo fumbled the snap against Seattle I the playoffs? Maybe I'm wrong but I thought for sure that was the case

The only year Parcells didn't finish over 500 was the year they kicked Quincy off the team and we were stuck with Vinny.
 

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When you go out and draft players who score 4 on the wonderlick. How do you expect them to understand a complex scheme?
 

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Sadly, last years success may have set us back years and might've ended any chance of a real coach here in Dallas.

I'm so sick of the Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett types.

Parcells was the best thing to happen to this team in 2 decades. Most of the good we've had on this team over the years dates back to the Parcells era. We could've been a real great team if he stayed. Unfortunately, Dallas is a circus and he didn't want to be any part of it.
 

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The offense has been a problem regardless of what the numbers have said.


Just because Romo is a wizard doesn't mean the offense is any good.

The offense has look just as bad under Romo though. A lot of our talent is overrated. But clearly people refuse to believe it. Our D-line has been bad, O-line has been average, a rookie id our best player in the secondary, and the qb situation is awful. You all better start believing we have holes on the roster.
 

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Sadly, last years success may have set us back years and might've ended any chance of a real coach here in Dallas.

I'm so sick of the Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett types.

Wade has been largely a success as a DC for over multiple DECADES in the NFL. Not to make this a Garrett bashing post, but it's unfair to Wade to compare him to Garrett. We're still waiting for Garrett to establish exactly what he's good at from a coaching perspective at the NFL level.
 

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The offense has look just as bad under Romo though. A lot of our talent is overrated. But clearly people refuse to believe it. Our D-line has been bad, O-line has been average, a rookie id our best player in the secondary, and the qb situation is awful. You all better start believing we have holes on the roster.

So to be clear are you saying the problem is the talent level and not the coaching or scheme? Maybe you spoke to this earlier and i missed it.
 

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Don't insult Wade. He might suck as a HC but at least he knows how to be a good DC. What's JG good at except for clapping,butt smacking and giving speeches at team field trips.

He doesn't even suck at HC. He had Buffalo playing at a high-level with scrubs at QB.

If anybody hasn't gotten a fair shake, it's him. If he had a chance to pick an OC here with Romo, we probably wouldn't be in such a mess now.

Every year we collapsed with Romo was because the offense went into stagnation-mode and the offense went into TO mode FIRST and the defense eventually folded.
 

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The talent on this team is, at the very best, average. An outstanding Tony Romo carried this team to 12 wins last year. A non existent Romo has lead to the mess we have today.

I think we are below average talent wise.

No an outstanding Murray carried this team last year. Teams rushed 4, and the OL gave romo all day to throw. Teams have adjusted and are daring us to go deep, we can't get it done on a consistent basis, until we do, there will be no running game and no points on the board. I believe Cassel showed last game he's getting a grip on the offense, and where to go with the football pre snap, we should look a lot better against the skins. OH, and maybe with all the extra time we could add a few plays that defenses don't know better than our offense.:facepalm:
 

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We have talent. We have a HC who can't keep it focused. Could you imagine what would have happened to Dez if that was Jimmy or Parcells during Thursdays game? Red was busy clapping and thinking of the next team field trip. Cassel isn't so bad that doing a few new things couldn't have won some games. You have to put your players in the best situation for them. He just keeps trudging along with what worked last year minus the players that made last year work. No plan "B".

Your sentence in bold sums the season up nicely. The all or nothing plan is admirable but foolhardy.
 

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we have almost no talent on defense

I'd say not enough talent, especially at DT, CB and safety. Imagine if Dallas had a run-stuffing, space-eating DT who commanded double-teams. Consider what the secondary would look like with a solid cover CB -- Jones is almost there but he needs time -- and a playmaking safety.
 

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The offense has look just as bad under Romo though. A lot of our talent is overrated. But clearly people refuse to believe it. Our D-line has been bad, O-line has been average, a rookie id our best player in the secondary, and the qb situation is awful. You all better start believing we have holes on the roster.

I know we have holes. That is how the NFL is set up.

The Patriots have holes up and down that roster and they get by with Brady and great coaching to maximize talent.
 

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The tie breaker when the games are actually played is coaching. Like it always has been.

Coaches choose from the players the GM gives them.

Coaches devise gameplans around the players they have a direct hand in choosing and are responsible for having the right ones around to do what needs to be done to win football games.

I get that you can fault the GM for the talent. That is especially true in the draft. That is where a GM proves himself.

But the decisions on the final roster out of camp are on the coaches as well.

I still remember genius Garrett deciding that we were just too good at WR in that he didn't want to keep Amendola in his offense, yet kept Isaiah Stanback.

Jones was not sitting there deciding by himself that Brandon Weeden is the best choice to back up Tony Romo.

He was not the one calling him the "most improved" player on the roster.
 

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I know we have holes. That is how the NFL is set up.

The Patriots have holes up and down that roster and they get by with Brady and great coaching to maximize talent.
Please, if Belichick lost Brady he would lose seven straight games with Garoppolo.

You just can't win games with backup QBs. Learned it right here.
 

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It's sickening to me to watch games today and see how easily teams do things. It pains me to watch QB's like Alex Smith, Ryan Fitzpatrck, Bryan Hoyer, Teddy Bridgewater, Derric Carr, Cousins, Dalton, Winston, etc.move their teams up and down the field, get WR's in space, move their star wide outs around the formations, and put their teams in positions to win. Even if they don't score , it's not hard and painful to watch. There isn't a constant struggle to pitch and catch, or a one sided barrage of 2 yard out routes. TE's catch the ball in the seam up the field, and because of the spreading out defensive backs and LB's having to keep that in mind, the play calling isn't completely predicable. The running backs can run against 5 or 6 man boxes instead 7-9 man boxes because they don't have a bead on the upcoming play. I believe most of these teams have some pretty creative route trees, or their WR's are do a very good job of creating space. I don't see All Pro names like Smith, Frederick, Martin, Witten, Bryant, or Romo.. You know, the "top of the line on paper, 1st-3rd round top tier guys. But I don't see the high pressure, nervous struggles either.

We had the third-best rushing offense last year and were ranked fifth in points per game. We also were ranked fifth in points per game the previous year. Overall, I believe our offense was top 10 both years.

There are things I do not like about Garrett and his offensive scheme. I don't think he's creative enough. However, I don't think this stinker of a season can be used as anything more than evidence that we can't win without a quality QB. We had chances in almost every game while Romo was out, but failed in games we would have likely won with him to be leading the East at least by a couple of games at this point.

Last year, fans were bowing and kissing the feet of Scott Linehan because of how this offense was playing. This year, he's suddenly an imbecile.

Defensively, I do believe we'd be better than we are if Romo had been healthy to control time of possession. Our pass defense is improved, although we're not getting the type of pressure we had hoped to see from Tyrone Crawford, Lawrence and Gregory. The primary area hurting us on defense is that lack of turnovers.

Now, I do believe there are better head coaches out there. I do get envious of some of the creative things other teams do while we merely run our offense. However, it seems Garrett believes that a well-ran offense doesn't need to be too creative to win. The previous two years back him up to some extent, but it just doesn't work when the engine is missing.
 
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