I see the 'boys getting ten wins

ABQCOWBOY

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Here's the thing, when people say this is a bad division, you realize that includes us too right? Those other teams' fans are licking their chops waiting to play us. We are part of the bad. I don't see us being on a different tier than the rest of the division. I think we're on par with the eagles, and slightly better than the giants/eagles. This defense has regressed since the giants team, they will be tough in NY. The skins will play better at home IMO, that will be a tough game. Both eagles games will be toss ups. Selvie and Wilber holding the edge in the run game is going to be a scary scary sight this weekend.

This team has shown the same inconsistencies of past teams...nothing has changed. When the defense shows up, the offense disappears and vice versa. One week they're in attack mode on offense, the next week they're back to the dink and dunk. You can't hang your hat on any part of this team performing the same way as they did in the previous match up, particularly when the division games are on the road now. Right now I see us finishing 8-8. I hope they get to 9 wins b/c I think that will be enough to sneak into the playoffs but 8-8 is the finish I see. San Diego game was the litmus test for me. They failed it and at the end of the season when they are one game out of the playoffs, they will regret their 2nd half approach to the chargers game and the opportunities lost in the chiefs game. We needed at least one of those winnable games b/c the gauntlet is about to start and the injuries most likely will not stop. I hope I'm wrong but you and I and the rest of us deep down know this team is nowhere close to being consistent enough to go undefeated in the nfc east (they aren't jags bad). the teams in the division know us well (as evidenced by the romo blitzing) and now have a flawed defense to expose.

Of course I realize that but with respects to your earlier post, the comparison is not the Cowboys to the rest of the division. It's the rest of the division to historical performance.
 

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I agree. If we don't tackle well against McCoy, it could be a real long day for us. Will be like the old days when they used to torch us with Duce Staley or Brian Westbrook but on the other hand, I don't think they can put pressure on Romo. If they can't do that, how long do you think they can cover Dez? I like our matchup here ufc.

Ok, I feel good that you like the match up ABQ. Maybe I am just reading the game wrong. I will be super happy if we beat them.
 
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I know you won't agree with this, but we have a better QB and better receivers. And we face a defense worse than ours. That's why I think we win. But it won't be easy.

I think Tony is better than both Foles and Vick and I think we have much better receivers. So we both agree there. Their defense is just as bad as ours if not worse. However, the X-factor here is Mccoy. Mccoy is an elite RB and meanwhile we are strutting out there with Randle who looked extremely undersized out there last week and not impressive at all. The Eagles can play just the pass and wait for Romo to screw up.

Although Romo and our receivers are better, you never know which offense is going to show up. I knew Romo would come back down to earth against the Commanders this past week. That game against Denver was nothing more than anomaly for him and the offense. If I saw a higher level of play on a consistent basis from our offense I would feel differently about the game.

I can look the other way and get on board with you and ABQ though.. just hoping I'm wrong.
 

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Of course I realize that but with respects to your earlier post, the comparison is not the Cowboys to the rest of the division. It's the rest of the division to historical performance.

ok they are historically worse. but are they bad enough where we'll win every game? no.

if we're talking history doesn't this cowboys team look fairly similar to past seasons (with the exception of better pass blocking)?
 

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LOL. With virtually the same key pieces, so ya I know it can be done. The Aints definitely beatable, if you think not, you are mistaken.

Yes they are beatable. Every team is beatable. But where you come out and say "THAT IS A PATHETIC EXPLANATION" and then proceed to give the explanation that we'll beat the Saints because we've "done it already" is just hilarious. And no, we don't really have the same key pieces at all; Still got Romo, Witten is still solid, no RB's are the same, Austin is the only receiver left, Doug Free is the only O lineman, Hatcher and Ware the only D lineman (and Ware is not even close to the same player), No LB's, and Scandrick is the only DB. So our QB is the same, 2 D lineman one of which is hurt and therefore mostly ineffective, 1 WR, 1 OL, NO LB's, and 1 DB. That doesn't sound like the same key pieces at all. Can we beat the Saints? Of course. Will we beat the Saints? I'd say no at this point.
 

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we actually have close games against New Orleans..

won in 2009

if roy williams does not get stripped on thanksgiving in 2010 we win that game.

we lost in overtime last year.
 

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ok they are historically worse. but are they bad enough where we'll win every game? no.

if we're talking history doesn't this cowboys team look fairly similar to past seasons (with the exception of better pass blocking)?


lmao

If you try and compare anything, you cannot make no exceptions.

Some fans want to look at this stat and this stat and don't count for the exceptions. Team's don't do that.
 

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What tie breakers do we need to edge out Philly? For the East title.
 

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I don't think we go 10-6 not because we can't but because.
I believe in a few weeks it'll become very easy to see we're winning the division.
I think there's going to be a few teams who will by far and way be the number one and two seeds, so that leaves us at the three and four seed.
I say, if it's possible we can win higher seeding, then do it. But if it becomes obvious no matter if we win or lose we're stuck at seed four, I think we should play our starters for half of the last game of the season.
 

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The 3 losses we've taken are all legit contenders and none of them walked away without a limp. Last years offense was not near as capable as this one. I say it's do-able. However, it's the Cowboys so, it's hard to get excited because, when it rains it pours. The defense is starting to fall apart with the injury bug. Now Murray. Who's next on offense? It worries me. I said it in the beginning of the season. Injuries will be the factor of this teams success this year.
 

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The 3 losses we've taken are all legit contenders and none of them walked away without a limp. Last years offense was not near as capable as this one. I say it's do-able. However, it's the Cowboys so, it's hard to get excited because, when it rains it pours. The defense is starting to fall apart with the injury bug. Now Murray. Who's next on offense? It worries me. I said it in the beginning of the season. Injuries will be the factor of this teams success this year.

We're the only team in the NFC east with more points for than points against lol.


We're + 31.
Eagles are -13
Commanders are -36
Giants are - 106
 

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ok they are historically worse. but are they bad enough where we'll win every game? no.

if we're talking history doesn't this cowboys team look fairly similar to past seasons (with the exception of better pass blocking)?

They are bad enough, IMO, and we are that much better, IMO, then everybody else in the Division. Yes, we should win every Division game this year. Now, will we? That's a different issue but yeah, we should.
 

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In order to win ten games we are going to have to string some back to back victories together. So far we have not done that this year.
In order to win ten games we have to break .500 this season. Well that sounds like a DUHHH statement but we have not broke .500 since 2009 season when we won 11 games. Since than we have went 6-10, 8-8, 8-8 and are currently smack dab at .500 with a 3-3 record.

So if current status and recent history has anything to conclude it is that until they break change, this team will wind up being a middle of the road .500 team.

Now we managed to fix our offensive line, or so it appears. But with all of the injuries to our D line we are having one guy starting on the line that has ever got any decent playing time from last year in Hatcher. So one would think that as the season goes on that will not improve much and we could lose more guys to injuries. And as bad as last years defense was we are about as bad as last year.
 

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Yes they are beatable. Every team is beatable. But where you come out and say "THAT IS A PATHETIC EXPLANATION" and then proceed to give the explanation that we'll beat the Saints because we've "done it already" is just hilarious. And no, we don't really have the same key pieces at all; Still got Romo, Witten is still solid, no RB's are the same, Austin is the only receiver left, Doug Free is the only O lineman, Hatcher and Ware the only D lineman (and Ware is not even close to the same player), No LB's, and Scandrick is the only DB. So our QB is the same, 2 D lineman one of which is hurt and therefore mostly ineffective, 1 WR, 1 OL, NO LB's, and 1 DB. That doesn't sound like the same key pieces at all. Can we beat the Saints? Of course. Will we beat the Saints? I'd say no at this point.

Well, I respect your opinion, but we have GAINED Dez, upgrade? YES. Our O-line is BETTER. Our no-name D-line is playing well, thanks to great coaching, No LBs??????????????? Sean Lee is our best D player! I feel we are a better team than last time, esp with some health coming back to us by then. The PATHETIC EXPLANATION I REFERRED TO, IS STILL THE SAME.
 

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The Cowboys would have to go 7-3 the rest of the way to get 10 wins that's not happening with a team that continues to be up and down.
 

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In order to win ten games we are going to have to string some back to back victories together. So far we have not done that this year.
In order to win ten games we have to break .500 this season. Well that sounds like a DUHHH statement but we have not broke .500 since 2009 season when we won 11 games. Since than we have went 6-10, 8-8, 8-8 and are currently smack dab at .500 with a 3-3 record.

So if current status and recent history has anything to conclude it is that until they break change, this team will wind up being a middle of the road .500 team.

Now we managed to fix our offensive line, or so it appears. But with all of the injuries to our D line we are having one guy starting on the line that has ever got any decent playing time from last year in Hatcher. So one would think that as the season goes on that will not improve much and we could lose more guys to injuries. And as bad as last years defense was we are about as bad as last year.

finally some realism.
 
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