I suggest you enjoy the rest of this season

Beast_from_East

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No NFL players get rewarded more than Dallas players do that haven't done JACK.

What's the common denominator?
Exactly.................Jerry pays his star players top of the market contracts despite little to no playoff success.

People then want to blame the players for being greedy.

Hello, the players are not paying themselves, our wonderful GM agreed to those contracts so maybe he is the one fans need to blame.
 

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The Cowboys have ALWAYS looked better when Rush plays, even when they lose.
They don't have a real leader on the field when Dak is in there. It's either an easy game in which everything is going right, or it's a high pressure game that Dak shuts down in and the Cowboys lose with Dak.
With Rush they play better overall.
The Cowboys don't look better most of the time when Rush plays. As they are at the bottom of the NFL offensively when he has started. That doesn't negate my point of you saying that the last 2 weeks. Which included a win over a bad Giants team, was better than anything that has occurred with this team over the last 17 years. You're saying 2 regular season wins are better than the entirely of the 2007, 2014, 2016 and 12-5 seasons that this team had in that timeframe.

Only those who are extremely attached to Cooper Rush for some reason would pick winning 2 regular season games over seasons the Cowboys were in actual playoff contention, Of which some included playoff wins.
 

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I am done with them, but Cooper Rush being at quarterback does give them life they wouldn't have with Dak under center, so it's interesting watching them finally have a real quarterback to lead the offense.
Stop this gaslighting.
 

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The Cowboys don't look better most of the time when Rush plays. As they are at the bottom of the NFL offensively when he has started. That doesn't negate my point of you saying that the last 2 weeks. Which included a win over a bad Giants team, was better than anything that has occurred with this team over the last 17 years. You're saying 2 regular season wins are better than the entirely of the 2007, 2014, 2016 and 12-5 seasons that this team had in that timeframe.

Only those who are extremely attached to Cooper Rush for some reason would pick winning 2 regular season games over seasons the Cowboys were in actual playoff contention, Of which some included playoff wins.
With Rush and McCarthy the Cowboys have a competent coach and a competent quarterback in the game at the same time.
That's something they haven't had in 18 years.
2014 was an anomaly because Jerry forced Garrett to step back and let Scott Linehan call the plays, and they were successful to a point.
But the rest of the time they have been an undisciplined mess on offense, only able to defeat sub .500 teams.
 

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I don't get the Cooper Rush hype. He's doing his best, but he has been average at best. I love the 7-3 record with Rush starting, and I'll take more of that. But he hasn't been the "real" QB many posters keep bragging about. I hope we win out. If we do, I'll be grateful for Rush's contribution. If we don't, I'll still be grateful. I root for Cowboys because they're Cowboys. I'm funny that way.
I just think it's because fans can no longer focus on Dak or whoever the fan hate du jour is. People see what they want to see. The team is competing hard, because they've always competed hard. It didn't change because Cooper took over. There's really no change in what I'm seeing because I've always paid attn to the whole team and whose doing what. These guys trying to redirect or downplay a team's success because of an injured player or even uplift a team's success because of his replacement is wasted energy.

Like you, I cheer for the team, because they're the Cowboys. Rush is a solid backup and he's doing his job, which is all you can ask for.
 

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With Rush and McCarthy the Cowboys have a competent coach and a competent quarterback in the game at the same time.
That's something they haven't had in 18 years.
2014 was an anomaly because Jerry forced Garrett to step back and let Scott Linehan call the plays, and they were successful to a point.
But the rest of the time they have been an undisciplined mess on offense, only able to defeat sub .500 teams.

So you're downplaying the 2014 season where the Cowboys went 12-4 and won a playoff game to try and convince this forum that the team winning two games with Cooper Rush in the last two weeks (Which incudes one over a sub .500 Giants team), should be viewed as a better situation and outcome for the team than what occurred in the 2014 season with Romo?

Out of the best seasons this Romo and Dak both have had. And the Cowboys have had with them, you're trying to tell us that just 2 weeks worth of games by Cooper Rush should be valued as "the best thing" that has happened to the Cowboys in 17 years.

Also haven't you in other threads blamed McCarthy for games the Cowboys have lost with Cooper Rush as the QB? Yet now are saying he is a competent coach.
 

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The past is the best predictor of the future unless something fundamentally changes.
I totally disagree with that statement on so many terms . You think you would learn from the past, but just ask Jerry.
 

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So you're downplaying the 2014 season where the Cowboys went 12-4 and won a playoff game to try and convince this forum that the team winning two games with Cooper Rush in the last two weeks (Which incudes one over a sub .500 Giants team), should be viewed as a better situation and outcome for the team than what occurred in the 2014 season with Romo?

Out of the best seasons this Romo and Dak both have had. And the Cowboys have had with them, you're trying to tell us that just 2 weeks worth of games by Cooper Rush should be valued as "the best thing" that has happened to the Cowboys in 17 years.

Also haven't you in other threads blamed McCarthy for games the Cowboys have lost with Cooper Rush as the QB? Yet now are saying he is a competent coach.
With Rush and McCarthy the Cowboys have a competent coach and a competent quarterback in the game at the same time.
That's something they haven't had in 18 years.
2014 was an anomaly because Jerry forced Garrett to step back and let Scott Linehan call the plays, and they were successful to a point.
But the rest of the time they have been an undisciplined mess on offense, only able to defeat sub .500 teams.
 

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I'm gonna enjoy it....every week is a different week....I just love football and the lessons that can be taught and learned....like, don't quit, block out the noise, control what you can, be a good teammate, WIN AND PLAY FOOTBALL!
 

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With Rush and McCarthy the Cowboys have a competent coach and a competent quarterback in the game at the same time.
That's something they haven't had in 18 years.
2014 was an anomaly because Jerry forced Garrett to step back and let Scott Linehan call the plays, and they were successful to a point.
But the rest of the time they have been an undisciplined mess on offense, only able to defeat sub .500 teams.
You just copy and pasted what you said before and really didn't answer the question. As to why Cowboys fans should logically believe winning 2 games in a season where the team is still under .500, is somehow better than 2014 or any of the seasons the Cowboys won 12 games or more and went to the playoffs and in some of these seasons won playoff games.

I recall you defending Cooper Rush a couple of weeks ago when he had a bad game and the Cowboys lost. And you said it wasn't the fault of Cooper Rush and it was on McCarthy. But now you want to paint McCarthy as a competent coach just in an attempt to convince us that 2 regular season wins is somehow better than 12-13 win seasons and making the playoffs. And this is with not even knowing whether or not the Cowboys will be able to win out, as they could still very well lose a couple of more games before the season ends and knock themselves out of the playoffs.
 

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Right now the Cowboys have hope, and they are playing well.
Not great, but well.
Next season begins a four year deal with Dak Prescott, and it doesn't matter who the Cowboys get from the draft, the problems of the last eight years will still exist.
IF, and it's a big IF, these Cowboys can get to the playoffs, you might get to see them actually remind you of what made this franchise great.
But if Dak is the quarterback for the next four years, some of us might not ever see the Cowboys we grew to love again.
Losing destroys morale, and the rebuild that it would take to restore the Cowboys to a semblance of what we grew to love could be ten years away.
So, enjoy the rest of this year; at least the next game. And if the Cowboys win it, take it one game at a time and hope for the best.
It might be the last time you can hope to see the real Dallas Cowboys for a while.
Well played troll job. :laugh:
 

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You just copy and pasted what you said before and really didn't answer the question. As to why Cowboys fans should logically believe winning 2 games in a season where the team is still under .500, is somehow better than 2014 or any of the seasons the Cowboys won 12 games or more and went to the playoffs and in some of these seasons won playoff games.

I recall you defending Cooper Rush a couple of weeks ago when he had a bad game and the Cowboys lost. And you said it wasn't the fault of Cooper Rush and it was on McCarthy. But now you want to paint McCarthy as a competent coach just in an attempt to convince us that 2 regular season wins is somehow better than 12-13 win seasons and making the playoffs. And this is with not even knowing whether or not the Cowboys will be able to win out, as they could still very well lose a couple of more games before the season ends and knock themselves out of the playoffs.
McCarthy is a competent head coach. That doesn’t mean he is the best, but he is competent.
Cooper Rush is a real quarterback. That doesn’t mean he is the best, but he is competent.
The Cowboys have their best chance to succeed right now.
 

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McCarthy is a competent head coach. That doesn’t mean he is the best, but he is competent.
Cooper Rush is a real quarterback. That doesn’t mean he is the best, but he is competent.
The Cowboys have their best chance to succeed right now.
Cooper Rush is 0-2 against the Eagles and the Cowboys need to win out in order to even have a chance to get into the playoffs. Which means needing to beat the Eagles. Why should any fan believe that Cooper Rush gives the Cowboys the best chance in the current state the Cowboys are in. Still closer to getting a top 15 draft pick than they are to making the playoffs, when he hasn't shown the ability to be able to beat the Eagles.
 

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Outstanding post.
Spot on.
Actually, I could totally see lots of today's Cowboys fans whining about only 2 SB wins in 29 years, but I digress. All that matters IMO is the Cowboys moving on from Jerry Jones. Until it happens, there will be no more SBs.
 

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@boysfanindc stated:
The past is the best predictor of the future unless something fundamentally changes.
He can correct me but I believe his premise is future actions are automatically influenced by established past actions. Dynamically different actions can deviate from repeating past results.

In other words, doing the same thing repeatedly does not alter future actions. As George Santayana famously once (and accurately) observed, “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

Dallas has enjoyed good and bad regular seasons over the past couple of decades. It has not experienced great postseasons during that stretch,

Unless 'something fundamentally changes', Dallas' 2024 season will end as either a fair or bad season. As the team's general manager, Jerry Jones is the main architect of those results. Year-in. Year-out. So, when you say:

I totally disagree with that statement on so many terms . You think you would learn from the past, but just ask Jerry.
--you have validated his observation since Jones has never learned (e.g. accepted) his way does not generate better results. He would have (long since) allowed another GM the opportunity of altering the seasonal trend if he had. Over time, Jones remains the constant variable for preventing real, fundamental change.
 

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Exactly.................Jerry pays his star players top of the market contracts despite little to no playoff success.

People then want to blame the players for being greedy.

Hello, the players are not paying themselves, our wonderful GM agreed to those contracts so maybe he is the one fans need to blame.
how many jerseys do those player sell? that determines how big is your contract
 

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Cowboys losing like they did tonight and being below .500 is why many Cowboys fans refused to invest back in this team this season, even after they won 2 games in the last 2 weeks. Rush having another subpar game tonight is also why it was perplexing as to why the OP would even make a statement to imply that the last 2 weeks should be viewed as better than seasons in which the Cowboys won 12 or more games and made the playoffs.
 
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