I think this sums up Weeden's performance against Arizona

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By the way, it's plays like this where I get frustrated at placing blame on the coaching staff overall. I think the one major mistake they made was the playcall on 4th and 1, which was disastrous. But when you are calling plays that are springing guys open on a regular and your QB doesn't even consider it, I think it's hard to lay that at the feet of the coaches.

I hated that 4th and 1 call. The Cowboys are much better at running the ball when the defense is spread out.

The next worst call was an empty backfield on 3rd and 2. That works with Romo, but with Weeden it was doomed to fail.

Overall, like you said, the play-calling didn't really matter that much with Weeden not find the open receivers and not being able to throw accurately.
 

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I hated that 4th and 1 call. The Cowboys are much better at running the ball when the defense is spread out.

The next worst call was an empty backfield on 3rd and 2. That works with Romo, but with Weeden it was doomed to fail.

Overall, like you said, the play-calling didn't really matter that much with Weeden not find the open receivers and not being able to throw accurately.

I don't remember the empty backfield you're talking about, but I do know he had executed on another similar play at some point in the game.
 

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WEEDEN'S PERFORMANCE

We know Weeden had a poor game. Watching the coaches film only confirmed it. Weeden predetermined his reads at the line of scrimmage and forced throws into coverage. This also caused him to leave plays on the field. There were times, if he had just scanned the field, he would have had an open receiver for a medium or deep pass. Granted, Arizona probably has the best tandem of man corners in the NFL in Peterson and Cromartie but there were opportunities for plays to be made and Weeden couldn't deliver. I have to mention that Bryant didn't help the cause with a couple of drops.

There were quite a few examples I could include but these two plays illustrate everything about Weeden and his performance.

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Weeden tries to connect with Bryant and misses. He ignores the man beater route to his left. Beasley runs across the field wide open for the first down. Weeden predetermined his read and forced the throw into Bryant. I'm sure they looked over that play on the sidelines after and saw Beasley wide open. Would they (Weeden) learn from their mistake?

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If you didn't notice right off the bat, it's the same play call with the same formation and personnel. As you can see Weeden again ignores the man beater route and again Beasley is open. Instead, Weeden tries to force the pass to Witten which was easily picked off. That interception essentially sealed the game for Arizona.

I love the work you do on these analysis with the Gifs; however, I could have saved you some time summing up Weeden's performance: He Sucked!
 

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Seriously, he can eye Dez real quick from his peripheral vision and still watch the middle of the field. It's like his eyes were looking through a funnel or something and he couldn't see anyone but the person he was staring down.
 

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If you didn't notice right off the bat, it's the same play call with the same formation and personnel. As you can see Weeden again ignores the man beater route and again Beasley is open. Instead, Weeden tries to force the pass to Witten which was easily picked off. That interception essentially sealed the game for Arizona.

I didn't have a problem with this decision. Yes, he could have gone to Beasley, but his man does get through the trash and he had Witten if he had only put some air under the ball and thrown it to the sideline.

Unfortunately, Weeden doesn't know how to put air under the ball.
 

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Seriously, he can eye Dez real quick from his peripheral vision and still watch the middle of the field. It's like his eyes were looking through a funnel or something and he couldn't see anyone but the person he was staring down.

Same thing we saw in the preseason. He has no field awareness. If his predetermined read is open, there's a chance he'll complete the pass. If not, there's a chance he'll throw it there anyway and risk an interception.
 

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Same thing we saw in the preseason. He has no field awareness. If his predetermined read is open, there's a chance he'll complete the pass. If not, there's a chance he'll throw it there anyway and risk an interception.
I wonder sometimes how a person makes it to the NFL without knowing how to look off LBrs and Sfts. And corners that don't know how to turn their head around. Baffling
 

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I didn't have a problem with this decision. Yes, he could have gone to Beasley, but his man does get through the trash and he had Witten if he had only put some air under the ball and thrown it to the sideline.

Unfortunately, Weeden doesn't know how to put air under the ball.

If the throw is quicker and lofted toward the pylon, it could be a TD. Honeybadger made a good play. It isn't out of the realm of possibility that Romo could have made this same play. But considering the rest of weeden's body of work, he just doesn't have the credit to receive benefit of the doubt here.
 

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Really?

Did you not see three defenders converge on Dez in the first one?

Know why? Because Weeden never took his eyes off of him.

Had Dez caught that ball he would've been trucked.

That's why they have check downs and more than two receivers on the field.

Oh yeah. The check down receivers............they were open.

I'm agreeing with you lol. Weeden was keying in on receivers and sticking with those guys. And none of them were his check downs. I agree with that. Its what he did.
 

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I'm agreeing with you lol. Weeden was keying in on receivers and sticking with those guys. And none of them were his check downs. I agree with that. Its what he did.

Apologies. Sometimes my angst of a crap athlete clouds my thought process. Or lack thereof in this instance.
 

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Yeah but as Jaws said it wasn't his fault. Cmon guys he wasn't all that bad.

Jeez that is absolutely horrible. Dude just focused on his 1st read.

Question. Is it a read if you only set out to go to one player ......NO MATTER WHAT!!!???!!
 

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Apologies to the coaching staff..........Beasley actually received a quasi pick from Witten on the 1st play........maddening that Weeden if he knows the playbook at all that wasn't his 1st look, We have M Irvin etc complaining JG and Linehand don't use pick plays, even a hint of a bunch set, but there it is, and Weeden doesent even look at it.

Edit.......heck, the 2nd play has Witten giving Beasley the same screen, and Beasley coming open again, this time the LB plays it better but Beasley has a chance to score. One would think Linehan on the sidelines would've shown Weeden the overhead shots of this play since they came back to it........and Weeden still didn't look at the Beas........
 

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Yeah but as Jaws said it wasn't his fault. Cmon guys he wasn't all that bad.

Jeez that is absolutely horrible. Dude just focused on his 1st read.

We saw the same thing in pre season.
You thought things would change?
 

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WEEDEN'S PERFORMANCE

We know Weeden had a poor game. Watching the coaches film only confirmed it. Weeden predetermined his reads at the line of scrimmage and forced throws into coverage. This also caused him to leave plays on the field. There were times, if he had just scanned the field, he would have had an open receiver for a medium or deep pass. Granted, Arizona probably has the best tandem of man corners in the NFL in Peterson and Cromartie but there were opportunities for plays to be made and Weeden couldn't deliver. I have to mention that Bryant didn't help the cause with a couple of drops.

There were quite a few examples I could include but these two plays illustrate everything about Weeden and his performance.

LegitimateDecimalCapeghostfrog.gif

Weeden tries to connect with Bryant and misses. He ignores the man beater route to his left. Beasley runs across the field wide open for the first down. Weeden predetermined his read and forced the throw into Bryant. I'm sure they looked over that play on the sidelines after and saw Beasley wide open. Would they (Weeden) learn from their mistake?

BonyAssuredEquine.gif

If you didn't notice right off the bat, it's the same play call with the same formation and personnel. As you can see Weeden again ignores the man beater route and again Beasley is open. Instead, Weeden tries to force the pass to Witten which was easily picked off. That interception essentially sealed the game for Arizona.

Weeden Sucks like a vampire in a blood bank!
 

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He tried to force it to Dez way too many times.

When you have a receiver who considers himself one of the best in the league and gets frustrated when he doesn't get targeted, you kind of have to cater to that as a QB.
 
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