I think Tyron Smith, if healthy, will start

[Denim Chicken]

You can put Tyron at RT since Steele isn't likely to be ready to go to start the season anyway. That's where he played late in the season and in the playoffs. That would leave Smith at LT. The concern is filling the LG position

I agree, though I'm hopeful that Steele is ready by start of season. I'm not advocating to not start Tyron, but we need to be cognizant that if we do, the line-up will eventually be shifting.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

I'm not worried about if Tyron will start...of course he will. The question is, and Dallas should be preparing for it, what about when he gets hurt and misses a chunk of the season. That is inevitable and/or predictable. They need to already be preparing for that scenario rather than get caught with their drawers down again.

 

[Smith22]

and Steele likely won't be back to start the season anyway..

Last update I heard, he was expected to be a full participant in July.

 

[glimmerman]

Left to Right starting 5 Oline:

Tyron Smith
Tyler Smith
Tyler Biadasz
Zack Martin
Terence Steele

Here is our starting Oline. Book it.

That’s what I am thinking. You may see Tyron come out and Tyler step in at LT if they are limiting Tyron to help him make it through the season. But Tyron is always in shape and gets rolled up on. Last season was one of the first times I have seen him get injured on his own. And the man walked it off and said he was fine. Lol. Tore it off the bone and grunted he was ok.

 

[Ekspozed]

People just need to stop with the "Tyron should be the swing tackle" argument. When healthy, Tyron will play. Why? Because he's still the best OT on the team. You don't sit your best player just because he MIGHT get hurt. If he's healthy, he's one of the top 2-3 OT's in the entire NFL. If he get's hurt, you deal with it.

His restructured contract is incentive based, where he gets docked pay if he does get hurt. But Tyron will start. He will either start at LT or RT. Tyler will start. He will either start at LT or LG. The undrafted Terence Steele will either start at RT, or be the swing tackle. There is NO SCENARIO at all where Tyron Smith is the swing tackle. Either he's healthy and starts, or he's hurt, and the younger guys play. If Tyron gets hurt, then the Cowboys have 4 players on the roster who can fill in at the swing tackle position - Waletzko, Ball, Edoga and Richards. All but Waletzko will get time at both Guard and Tackle during training camp.

I think earl knocks ball off the roster.

I think we start the season tyron Tyler bia Martin waletzko (unless Steele is healthy.

If/when tyron gets hurt (assuming Steele is back) we have many options.

Depending on waletzkos play at rt in place of Steele he can fill in at lt. If not you slide Tyler to lt and have the best of edoga/farniok/Richard's fill in at lg.

 

[glimmerman]

Don't be rude, you know they give him the veteran's day off at times, he still gets hurt and he's not even practicing sheesh

He needs the Romo treatment during the season. He will show up in shape. Give him the extra day of rest and if we are up big in a team sit him.

 

[glimmerman]

Tyler Smith gave up 6 sacks and had 11 penalties in 17 total games his rookie season playing LT.

In the last 3 seasons, Tyron Smith played 17 games (out of 50) and allowed 3 sacks, and had 8 penalties.

So, while Tyler may have given up twice the amount of sacks and 3 more penalties, he was healthy for 17 games and played well in his rookie season.

Now, Dallas is going to kick him inside to OG to allow for the oft-injured Tyron to play.

Dallas needs to stop blocking the growth of young players all in the name of playing aging, injured veterans.

The NFL is not about what you did for a franchise but what you can do for a franchise.

I know he was supposed to play LG next to Tyron before his injury. They knew he could play LT and will eventually take that job. But when Tyron is healthy he is top notch. The question is how long will he be healthy. We got a great player when we drafted Tyler. McClay did his job for sure there. Let’s hope the same with Mazi. If he plays DT as good as Tyler plays his position we just got a lot better against the run and pressure on the qb. They can line Parsons up behind Mazi and he can get upfield fast without Parsons getting his knees taken out.

 

[jaythecowboy]

I totally agree he will start, but I'm not so sure going into this year I would call him "the best OT on the team" any more. I think he starts more because Tyler can play LT or LG just as well which allows us to start all 3 and since Tyron is clearly more comfortable as an OT I think he plays LT or if you want to believe some of the rumors about Steele playing OG it could mean Tyron starting at RT. Regardless all 3 will start when healthy. Where matters less to me than who. Note - I don't think it is going to be the case that Steele plays LG all of a sudden, but it has been talked about.

If the plan was for Tyron to at best be a swing tackle we would have just cut him. His cap hit says he is starting. Whether he starts or dresses and sits we pay him that per game bonus and he is less likely to be hurt which would make his cap hit ridiculously large for a backup - part of the cap hit would hit next year not this year.

This is incorrect. Only $6 million of his contract is guaranteed. He voluntarily restructured his contract because he's all about the Cowboys and he likely would have been cut otherwise. He has $9 million in incentives based on percentage of snaps and $2 million based on playoff games. If he plays less than half the season he's basically making swing tackle money.

 

[zrinkill]

Yes he will..... At RT

 

[75boyz]

Once the ink dried on that Tyron extension/money that kinda sealed the deal.
The major issue was beforehand and deciding to keep him.

Both Tyron Smith and Sean Lee,
the ultimate examples of good to great players IF healthy.

That IF word should have maybe been followed a little closer and let him go a year early vice a year late.

Not a popular opinion I know, but oh well.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Once the ink dried on that Tyron extension/money that kinda sealed the deal.
The major issue was beforehand and deciding to keep him.

Both Tyron Smith and Sean Lee,
the ultimate examples of good to great players IF healthy.

That IF word should have maybe been followed a little closer and let him go a year early vice a year late.

Not a popular opinion I know, but oh well.

May not be popular but those are the facts, if he is on the team and healthy he should play, but for sure there can be a good debate on wether his health issues should've caused a diferent path.

 

[Smith22]

When he's playing, he's still top 5.

Which is almost never. 17 games in 3 years.

That isn't top 5 material.

 

[glimmerman]

The contract matches the gamble of him getting injured. I wish all contracts would be like this. Regular and playoff games if you’re an elite player at a high priced position then give them a million a game. If injured and out for a season then have injury settlement. But if you miss a few games you don’t get paid.

 

[DCreppinBoysfan]

I’m jsut waiting for the annual summertime phrase “this the best he’s felt/looked in his career”. That’s usually the calm before the injury

 

[foofighters]

People just need to stop with the "Tyron should be the swing tackle" argument. When healthy, Tyron will play. Why? Because he's still the best OT on the team. You don't sit your best player just because he MIGHT get hurt. If he's healthy, he's one of the top 2-3 OT's in the entire NFL. If he get's hurt, you deal with it.

His restructured contract is incentive based, where he gets docked pay if he does get hurt. But Tyron will start. He will either start at LT or RT. Tyler will start. He will either start at LT or LG. The undrafted Terence Steele will either start at RT, or be the swing tackle. There is NO SCENARIO at all where Tyron Smith is the swing tackle. Either he's healthy and starts, or he's hurt, and the younger guys play. If Tyron gets hurt, then the Cowboys have 4 players on the roster who can fill in at the swing tackle position - Waletzko, Ball, Edoga and Richards. All but Waletzko will get time at both Guard and Tackle during training camp.

I think you're looking at it wrong. No doubt he starts at LT but our younger Smith needs as many reps as possible. We have to plan for Tyron not being there. If is there, great but we have to deal with what week 2 will look...depending if Tyron even makes it out of training camp.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I’m jsut waiting for the annual summertime phrase “this the best he’s felt/looked in his career”. That’s usually the calm before the injury

One thing you cant knock Tyron for is his work, he does show up every year in great shape like perfect shape for an OL... literally if he was not injury prone he would be the OT every other OT is judged from.

 

[Stash]

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/a-review-of-the-roster-post-draft.510832/page-2#post-12751773

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/a-review-of-the-roster-post-draft.510832/#post-12749036

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/why...e-picks-you-asked.510717/page-3#post-12746238

Two of your three ‘examples’ mentioned the same RT spot you did.

I’m not understanding the outrage.

 

[75boyz]

May not be popular but those are the facts, if he is on the team and healthy he should play, but for sure there can be a good debate on wether his health issues should've caused a diferent path.

Yep,
Tired but true as there comes, the best ability is availability.

As a business owner whose business has 17 working days out of the year and you have a very strong performing and proven employee who produces well when at work but hasn't made it to work for even half the required work days the last 3 years or so, what do you do?

Some times hard decisions got to be made.

 

[817Gill]

You can put Tyron at RT since Steele isn't likely to be ready to go to start the season anyway. That's where he played late in the season and in the playoffs. That would leave Smith at LT. The concern is filling the LG position

Steele is set to be ready to go by camp. I know we are scarred from the Gallup thing but all the info out there points to him being full go for camp.

He’s already doing full OL kick slide drills and by watching him you wouldn’t even be able to tell he had an injury.

Again, I know Gallup is fresh in our minds, but there’s been zero indication that Steele and/or Pollard will miss any significant TC time.

 

[BEARCATSKLZ]

Tyler needs to be the LT. You can't keep switching him around and stunting his growth.

O-Line needs chemistry... period... best 5 with the best chemistry... we are assigning starters in April? Why go to camp?