I Think We are Overrating Ourselves

[HighTechDave]

Parcells was an overrated punk.

he had awesome players. All he did was sit on the sideline and spew Sodium bicarbonate out his tight anus and sourpuss Pie-Hole.

screw that Jersey Scheit

 

[03EBZ06]

I'm going to keep my enthusiam in check until I see how the team is doing during the regular season.

I don't know how WP made the team better, I don't know how his style will effect the outcome of the games, and I don't know how him and the team will respond to adversity...only time will tell.

 

[Big Dakota]

Parcells was an overrated punk.

he had awesome players. All he did was sit on the sideline and spew Sodium bicarbonate out his tight anus and sourpuss Pie-Hole.

screw that Jersey Scheit

Tell us how you really feel :

OBTW, i think i'm gonna have to block you The kid's in the room.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

And while I'm at it, another problem was, until Owens joined the team (and even some times after) it was Parcells' team. He was the main attraction. If ya watched Monday night football, they were going to always lead with Parcells. The cameras were going to be on him the entire game. And I just don't see how a coach can be the main attraction of any team. And especially to the degree that Parcells was. It was all too much. It's a player's game.

Which is why it COULDN'T work with Bill and Owens, imo. No matter how they interacted, it would have come down to who is in the limelight more.

Owens HAS to be the center of attention. His exhibitionism demands it. And Bill was the 'image' of the Boys, as well as the voice when he was coach, an image that even TO couldn't usurp.

It wasn't fated to 'work' -- Bill just being Bill meant certain shenanigans had to be displayed just for TO to get his 'fair share' of the limelight.

This year, I expect NO lance armstronging, no ODing, no spitting, no radio show posturing, and NO pronounced whining.

Until and unless Tony takes center stage, Ownes' 'star' quailty is undisputed.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I'm right there with ya Musie.

Phillips has a depth of thinking that oddly, Parcells didn't.

I think it was two different philosophies and Parcells simply didn't have the assistants to build the team he wanted.

Parcells is very, very concerned about turnovers and winning time of possession. He doesn't want to give up big plays, he doesn't want to turn the ball over and he wants to keep the defense off the field.

If he can get that, he believes that he's giving his team more opportunities to score points (which is true) and the opposing team has to really work for everything they get because they won't get lucky with a big play or get good field position off a turnover.

Wade OTOH wants to get to the QB and wants to create turnovers. He understands that he puts his team in a position to give up big plays, but if he can create turnovers the more likely he's going to win the turnover battle and he feels that the QB position is too important to give the QB time to throw. Also, on average the QB's in the league are responsible for about 75% of the league's turnovers each year. So if they can sack the QB, they can force the main person responsible for turnovers to giveaway the ball.

Both ways work in the NFL. Lovie Smith thinks along the same way as Wade. Belichick thinks along the same way as Parcells. The main key, besides being able to execute what they plan to do, is how good are they at their weaknesses. If a Parcells team can get to the QB and create turnovers, he'll be really successfully. If a Wade team can prevent the big plays, they'll be successful.

I really believe the problem Parcells had here in Dallas, besides having to resurrect a sorry roster was keeping a guy like Zimmer around. I live in Atlanta and occasionally hear Zimmer talk about his defensive philosophies and I just groan when I hear him say really dumb things. Unfortunately when Parcells took over he spent most of his efforts resurrecting the offense and felt Zimmer could handle the defense. Once he got the offense to where he needed it, the defense could never really play up to expectations under Zimmer. Of course Zimmer blamed it on having to play the 3-4, but if you listen to him in interviews in regards to his 4-3 defense he's running in Atlanta, it's really the same ole crap.




YAKUZA

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Feel better LTN ?:

hee hee, I was 'ready' for Bill to retire too.

the memory of what he once WAS - that PASSIONATE, exhorting, pumping up da playuhs guy i remember on the NY, NE, and NY sidelines...

..and the image of what he was like in dallas, with that cold, icy, sidelines look of disgust ...nope...it was time, my friend, it was definitely TIME for the ponies, the broadcast booth, and the prize fight analysis.

All that was 'left' of the 'old' Parcells was the entertaining press conferences, i am afraid...the old fire, the dynamism, the charisma...almost completely extinguished, and the last drop of it must have been in that fateful playoff game last year. It's GOOD Bill retired. That game had to have taken the last ounce of blood left in his coaching veins.

But of course, he'll be my main man til I die, and I will MISS having a COACH to 'follow' as I did Bill. Then again, he IS in saratoga springs, just a 3 1/3 hr drive from me, so I could more easily stalk him if I had to.

 

[HighTechDave]

anyway, I think we are overrating ourselves, with no foundation.

need proof. This overexcitement of training camp, yeh we are excited about having football, but tap the brakes.

kick back, watch, and enjoy.

At least "Yak Tougue" is not our QB...................

 

[Everlastingxxx]

anyway, I think we are overrating ourselves, with no foundation.

need proof. This overexcitement of training camp, yeh we are excited about having football, but tap the brakes.

kick back, watch, and enjoy.

At least "Yak Tougue" is not our QB...................

I have my foot on the gas and believe this team can be just as good as any. This excitement i have gets me going in the mornings and keeps me awake at night thinking about the possiblities. If you choose to not think this positive, then so be it, but speak for yourself.

 

[HighTechDave]

oh no, I'm positive on our team, just tappin the brakes a hair until they actually prove something.

dude, you should have seen my group at the Irvin watchin party. We are on board, no question, but just need to see something other than overreacting media reports at 6 and 10

 

[Everlastingxxx]

oh no, I'm positive on our team, just tappin the brakes a hair until they actually prove something.

dude, you should have seen my group at the Irvin watchin party. We are on board, no question, but just need to see something other than overreacting media reports at 6 and 10

But why? Why not believe the sky is the limit until proven otherwise?
If my hopes are dashed, then so be it. Just part of being a true Cowboy fan.

 

[HighTechDave]

But why? Why not believe the sky is the limit until proven otherwise?
If my hopes are dashed, then so be it. Just part of being a true Cowboy fan.

point taken, and agree, just putting Reality brakes on a bit.

still haven't seen nothing, but will Thursday somewhat

this coming from a Cowboy Fan who watched his BOYZ practicing at the Forrest Lane field back in the day. Yes, old, but I was 10, and a diehard as I am now.

 

[Rampage]

But why? Why not believe the sky is the limit until proven otherwise?
If my hopes are dashed, then so be it. Just part of being a true Cowboy fan.

cause we haven't won a playoff game in 10 years

 

[HighTechDave]

cause we haven't won a playoff game in 10 years

ouch. but true

Again, we here are trying to separate ourselves from the rest of the wanna bees......

like the Giants/Foreskins/loserscumbagbatterythrowingwhitetrashdorkpukeboyswithworthlessDNAforhumanity

oh



need I say more,,,,,,

 

[Rampage]

dave, this team is a bunch of underachievers as far as i'm concerned. i pray they prove me wrong this year

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I think we are overhyping da boyz, because it is a new season with a new coach, setting us up for a let-down

that is all. I'll wait for the final analysis after the 2nd pre-season, but I'm not Impressed right now. Too much giddy stuff. The boyz are still my team, just "show me the money"

Well, that is possible about the overratednessnessivitismness

I remember thinking we were a can't miss for the Super Bowl in 1988 -- and during many other Landry years -- when Ol Tom Landry and Schram was huffing and puffing to get back to glory days

Could be we are overrated, but this season it is for real!!!:laugh2:

 

[HighTechDave]

guys,,,,

I've just haven't seen anything yet. Damn, we have our PomPoms out, yes and I understand, but we haven't done the "Splits" to make us go "Oh My ***** Gawd"

lol

(do the visual)

 

[Vintage]

I don't think I am overrating the Cowboys when I say 10-6 is a distinct possibility. Maybe you are right; maybe I am.

But unlike the "Parcells is holding people back" crowd, I believe that some of the players just did not perform acceptably in Parcells' scheme.

Blame Parcells all [you] want, but Parcells sculpted Ware into an all around LBer. Something [we've] been crowing about as being superior to Merriman because of that ability.

Yeah, I want to see Ware rush the passer more. But I also want to seem him out in coverage. Because of the Ellis/Ware/Spencer trio that is going to man the OLB position.....Ware is the only one I trust in coverage. Sure, Spencer/Ellis aren't as good of a pass rusher(s) as Ware....but the difference in coverage is going to be more than the difference in pass rushing ability.

For those expecting Ware to be almost exclusively rushing the passer a la Merriman, I think they are going to be disappointed.

If we can generate a pass rush from the opposite OLB spot and get better play from the DL, I think we could be a pretty good team.

 

[dmq]

As the young DC has already surmised, the defense is talent laden, and media metric-gurus have pretty much annointed the O Pro Bowlian.

Then there is the undisputed FACT that the last head coach's control freakism robbed the star running back of all but his most robotic moves, the star receiver of his rightful diversity of routes, and the young QB of the benefits that should rightly have resulted from his intelligence and mobility. And of course, they all played not just hurt but injured, and were worn down to a nub by a hellish training camp routine.

Parcells also fattened up his defensive players like cows for the slaughterhouse, rendering them sluggish and inefficient. Linemen were not trusted to stunt, or zone blitz, dumb as they were in the HC's mind.

Bill misplayed most of his personnel and rotated unwisely. Insisted on read and reacting when proactivity was called for, and elevated bend don't break to an art form, only to meet disaster when safeties who should have been blitizing were called upon to cover. Insisted on two gapping and the ever constant phobia over run D..well, clearly, the team's talent was rendered moot and now that Bill has finally retired himself, the true abilities of the players will be unleashed.

The 'loss' of control-obsessed, leader-bashing, robot-making Tuna should translate to at least THREE more wins - easily.

Yes. The extent to which Parcells stood in the way of this team's talent and success can NOT be over-estimated!

Not to mention convincing Jerry to pay big bucks for a kicker that had psychological problems when the most clutch kicker of all time that was great at kickoffs was still on the board.

 

[03EBZ06]

But unlike the "Parcells is holding people back" crowd, I believe that some of the players just did not perform acceptably in Parcells' scheme.

Yup, same here. BP did make some mistakes but I strongly believe some of the players did not perform last year.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think we are overhyping da boyz, because it is a new season with a new coach, setting us up for a let-down

that is all. I'll wait for the final analysis after the 2nd pre-season, but I'm not Impressed right now. Too much giddy stuff. The boyz are still my team, just "show me the money"

I'm excited because I think this team has improved from last season and I expect this team to play better than they did last season. How far will we go is anyone’s guess but I'm not going to down play what I think this team is capable of.