I think we hired the wrong coach

[jazzcat22]

I wondered if I was the only one that noticed that. I know it happens sometimes but wow. And I saw a few others that were sketchy.

The Jackie Smith curse?

 

[glimmerman]

The Jackie Smith curse?

At least his drip was in the endzone. Lol. Which made it more heartbreaking.

 

[JayFord]

I don’t think I know

 

[DasTex]

Eagles pay for FA's and make smart draft picks when good players fall in their lap

Also were helped with Carson Wentz trade haul and smart trades - below is the results of the trade and various moves they used with the picks.


Eagles receive: DeVonta Smith, A.J. Brown, Kyron Johnson, Jalen Carter, Cooper DeJean, Jalyx Hunt, Jeremiah Trotter Jr, 2025 fourth-round pick, 2025 fifth-round pick
Colts receive: Carson Wentz, Matt Pryor, Alec Pierce, Jelani Woods, Bernhard Raimann, Andrew Ogletree
Saints receive: Chris Olave, Trevor Penning, Jordan Jackson

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...s ended up receiving,from the Colts for Wentz.

 

[Floatyworm]

i can now see the next Payton (Kellen) winning a Saints Superbowl in the near future....

Jaylen Hurts is hot garbage as a QB and he's tearing up the Chiefs Defense.

Been saying it for years....Jerry is making the same mistakes again. I get it...seems like we are putting together a pretty solid staff...but who is to say Kellen couldn't have done the same....if given the opportunity....and no ownership meddling.

 

[Dorsett33]

i can now see the next Payton (Kellen) winning a Saints Superbowl in the near future....

Jaylen Hurts is hot garbage as a QB and he's tearing up the Chiefs Defense.

You guys don't know what you want. When Kellen was here, half of you couldn't wait until he left. Kellen didn't win that SB alone. And Hurt was mediocre at best. It was the defense that won the game for Philly.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Kellen Moore would be hamstrung here by Jerry and Stephen. They are why the Cowboys can never build a roster like the Eagles can.

Having said that, I'm not sure Moore will find the same success in New Orleans either. Only time will tell.

 

[JW82]

They have the best oline/RB combo in the league. I can call plays there.

 

[loublue22]

The defense won that game.

 

[NDGAEDE]

Time will tell. Kellen is obviously doing something right, having had huge success in Philly and Dallas. I hope he does well in NO just out of spite for Jery and Stephen.

I don't know how he'll do when things get rocky, and players start pointing fingers. We'll see. He's not exactly set up for success in NO.

 

[KJJ]

i can now see the next Payton (Kellen) winning a Saints Superbowl in the near future....

Jaylen Hurts is hot garbage as a QB and he's tearing up the Chiefs Defense.

Get real! lol Moore doesn’t have near the talent in New Orleans he had with Philly. He won’t have the QB or RB he had with Philly or the number one defense. He did nothing with the Chargers the previous season.

 

[DoctorChicken]

I believe the "right" coach for this team was hired by the Chargers last year.

 

[Blackspider214]

i can now see the next Payton (Kellen) winning a Saints Superbowl in the near future....

Jaylen Hurts is hot garbage as a QB and he's tearing up the Chiefs Defense.

Why is Hurts considered garbage, is it wishful thinking? He's not garbage by any means. Remember when he was a turnover machine? He fixed that a ton. He's a threat to run and does it well.

 

[blueblood70]

i can now see the next Payton (Kellen) winning a Saints Superbowl in the near future....

Jaylen Hurts is hot garbage as a QB and he's tearing up the Chiefs Defense.

First of all, this is probably give me a long read because it's going to be one of my only posts today because I'm not dealing with sports today.... I'm gonna get it all out and snuff out this ridiculous threat in the first place..

I think it's hilarious


SO, You think this your point of view; that somehow Moore went to the eagles ,that made the eagles better ,he built the roster he was the head coach, he was the GM, like he was the missing piece like he's the magic man?
is that what you're trying to tell us?That's like saying Nick Foles and whoever the offensive coordinator was of that Super Bowl win in 2017, somehow was the magic piece ,and yet what do you do after where is Nick Foles now?
maybe you don't understand it, I like team dynamic. the TEAM concept of, teams win championships...
Did you see that roster ,especially on defense did you see a defensive line that looked like one of the best since the 86 bears or the Ravens that defense shut down and confused one of the best offenses in football when it comes to drawing up plays and making that defense was great maybe somebody ought to take that defensive coordinator oh wait a minute they probably won't because they understand..

look at the roster.. You know the irony I'm sitting here and I remember back in 96 was around 1995 I guess wasn't that switzer's first year and everybody around here said anybody could have been hired and took Jimmy Johnson's roster that team and won two more Super Bowls and they got close to doing so so it was the roster right I mean literally Jimmy Johnson gets moved off this team and they go right back to an NFC championship game got really close and then the next year won it again it's kind of ironic right everyone sits here and says it wasn't Barry switzer that anybody who just went in and didn't mess it up was gonna win with that roster.. The irony is it was coming from it's like you that said that so literally now Kelly Moore somehow a a boy genius ready to pull up on the scene and be the next Sean McVeigh he's gonna be the next Kyle Shanahan the next Andy Reid that's what we're witnessing here that's what Mr. uncle Oscar is saying he's one of those bad uncles from Thanksgiving LMAO

you know the deeper irony here is Kellen Moore was made fun of when he left and that Jerry was gonna make him the next Jason Garrett and everybody said that that senile old man of our GM and our owner was saved when Mike McCarthy no longer wanted more here and got rid of him it was supposed to be a positive right now you guys flip the script and say he's a boy genius and he's the reason the eagles won a Super Bowl wow the hypocrisy around here how when your mood changes it becomes facts..


oh and that's right he gets to bring the staff and all these players so you're saying if he transfers the entire eagles team to the Saints they switch places that's what you're saying 'cause if not then that's not the proper perspective of what your eyes are seeing you're not elevate jalen hurts, jalen hurts played this exact same way he even threw an interception but unlike the fumble that happened last time it didn't affect them because of how great the defense played just absolutely shut down Andy Reid's offense ,

now some of you may know in the last Super Bowl against the same team literally the same game throwing the ball all over the place at this time he had a better running back and the defense absolutely shut down and destroyed and that's the key Patrick Mahomes in that offense that is how they won that game..

That is what a team looks like when they can run the ball effectively if the defense can get them the lead get them points and then you can put it on cruise control it opens up the rest of the game if you can't see that this has nothing to do with Kelly Moore they did this the last time they were at the Super bowl the only difference is the defense and the run game which has nothing to do with Kellen Moore because it was already there they just simply added one of the best running backs in the game and yes that was the GM ..

Go to the chalkboard and write this 1150 times,

not Moore not Moore nothing to do with Moore...

but yes, if you want to give him all the credit like somehow Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn and Cohen are going to go just switch their teams over just flip flop and they're just going to boom, instant success?

then you've got a problem with your eyes and your understanding of football.


. Now let me key you in on some key football points this is how it works,

I thought that if you don't as a team and as a general manager go get your coach immediately and start building early in the process that you're behind they're the last team the Saints were talking about to get their head coach well who's available for their staff sounds like they're going to be picking that fruit off the ground you know over ripe or rotten fruit not going to have the pick of the litter Brian Schottenheimer was hired early in the process and he had all this time he put together a great staff he may not look good on the surface by himself but you're only as good as the sum of your parts and right now that some of the parts is looking really good Jerry has no jealousy he's not looking over there because Kelly Moore was the only one that wanted that job and he was the last one in the entire process to take the job and now he's got to go over there as a first time head coach one of the greenest first time head coaches of all time and try to recreate what the ego just did that's what you're saying that that is just going to walk over there and build this roster just like that and he's going to have more success than Schottenheimer?

Is that what you're trying to tell me?

that your eyes ,the eye candy maybe, all that motion maybe you are having a seizure but what you're seeing is not going to easily be recreated because if it was all teams would be doing it there'd be a new Super Bowl team every year..

if there was a blueprint you can't recreate what you had especially as a first time head coach but hey all we need to do is watch and then we can comment 2 years from now on how this all worked out just like nobody liked the Mike McCarthy higher he turned out to be the best hire of 2020 by far not even a close second was the most successful hire of 2020 and everyone's all over this schottenheimer higher like the same way all negative you might be surprised but the best thing to do is not over rate some spare part with absolutely no experience in this league Brian schottenheimer has been doing this for 25 years and obviously has a whole lot more contacts besides being the son of a former head coach and a very successful NFL head coach you don't think he learned from his dad you don't think he's more prepared then Kellen Moore or Ben Johnson or Liam Cohen I'm not saying that that would be the case for their success because it's going to take a good roster to do this and that's where we need to sit back and see how this works out the salary cap free agency the draft how it all comes together but anybody giving Keller more discredit for last night doesn't know anything about football.. He was a plug and play coach any offensive coordinator with any kind of half a brain could have took that roster and did the same thing.. He basically was running alongside a train that was already headed in that direction and just basically was helped on at the last second grab the bar they pulled him up and he was able to do what he should have done been a successful offensive coordinator and that's all it is stop overrating what he done that was an all in roster one of the best off seasons and almost everything worked out for him..

The Saints umm OK.

 

[Chasing6]

Sounds like you are making excuses for a certain QB.

Mahomes played below par all season long. Compared to his previous years.
Now was it because the overall offense was below par. I don't think so.
KC won 4 or 5 games, because the opposing team misses last second FG's or some other missed play.
They easily could have not been there at all. But things like this happen. See the NYG and Eli, 2 times.

mountain mahomes.

 

[Chasing6]

Sounds like you are making excuses for a certain QB.

Mahomes played below par all season long. Compared to his previous years.
Now was it because the overall offense was below par. I don't think so.
KC won 4 or 5 games, because the opposing team misses last second FG's or some other missed play.
They easily could have not been there at all. But things like this happen. See the NYG and Eli, 2 times.

Sounds like you don't comprehend football.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Get real! lol Moore doesn’t have near the talent in New Orleans he had with Philly.

I didn't get it either. Not sure he was completely serious. I hope he wasn't.

 

[KingCorcoran]

I think i saw where 2 plays Jaylen threw the ball for more than 30 yards you take away those 60 yards and his 220 Passing goes down to 160 yards passing + 75 yards rushing. that Defense won them the game he did not deserve the MVP of the game..

I don’t understand taking away his two longest passes. He did throw them. They count.

 

[blueblood70]

You guys don't know what you want. When Kellen was here, half of you couldn't wait until he left. Kellen didn't win that SB alone. And Hurt was mediocre at best. It was the defense that won the game for Philly.

D great = stop the run ,pressure the qb into mistakes, O run a lot up because of D, throw off the run = success any OC could do this.. MOORE is being overrated for sure..

People have it right above and I've said it too I mean you didn't realize they can't take the roster or the coaching staff that surrounds some of these offensive coordinators to their next stop therefore recreating it it's gonna be difficult at best it probably almost damn near impossible.. I mean how are they going to recreate the defense the run game the offensive line the defensive line I mean the coaches that are around them supporting them I mean this is just insane we go from Kellen Moore wanting to be pushed out of here because they didn't want Jerry to have the opportunity to hire him and elevate him like Jason Garrett they called him Jason Garrett 2.0 he goes to the chargers doesn't do much he gets on a loaded team looks like boy genius..

now everybody's saying that we hired the wrong person!!

no, actually Jerry is the one who hired Schottenheimer over Moore. Facts

Kellen Moore wanted this job and it probably was his to lose until Schottenheimer said the right things in the double interview, backed by ex=bosses , Pers, and the locker room.. BS now has the right staff built by his guidance, and Jerry turned down moore..

it's not the opposite but Jerry wanted moore here he'd be here.. Only time will tell which of these coaching hires we're the correct ones as long as we keep perspective is which one is gonna have the most advantages by the roster by the moves made by the front office we will see because we need to keep that into perspective it doesn't matter who came here they probably could have got Shanahan or McVeigh to come here, Hell hired the entire eagles coaching staff from top to bottom bring them here and you'll find out they might get lucky to win seven games just like what happened last year with all the injuries and what not we don't know what's gonna happen in the future but the coaching staff is only as good of some of these parts everyone working together with a championship roster..

And yet here we are some of you are clueless now we hired the wrong guy and Kellen Moore all of a sudden went from dud to study some of y'all need to calm down and aaron rodgers words relax...

 

[Chasing6]

The team choked. But I have seen mahomes play a lot better under pressure. Not taking away from egirls play. They poured it on and finished.

Pressure from a blitz is significantly different from pressure from front 4.