I wish Henson would get a chance to play

[Cochese]

So there's nothing in between mind screwing and coddling?

I know what you are saying, but its not like Parcells has screwed up other QB's that went on to become solid players with his methods. I mean Simms dealt with it, Bledsoe dealt with it, Romo appears to be able to deal with it. It might come down to what some have speculated with DH and thats a lack of mental toughness.

 

[Juke99]

If Henson was on a team like the Jets, Browns, Packers, etc. He would have a better chance at this point. For the most part those teams are in rebuilding modes and the staffs are all new which would give him a fair chance to prove himself.

I understand what you are saying Juke.

It's been clear from the start...Parcells has not wanted to invest the time in a project like Henson.

Given the situation, that this is Parcells' last run at a ring, I suppose I understand that.

But it doesn't change the fact that IMO, he's done a lousy job with Henson.

 

[SloppyOctopuss]

Lets face it... decisions need to be made with Romo being eligible for free agency at seasons end. Getting a long look at him was a must and I dont fault the organization for that.

I do fault Parcells for the way Henson has developed to this point, starting with his debut on Thanksgiving day a couple years back and not getting a chance to get some exposure when we were obviously out of contention later that season.

I say we give him a one year deal because that is what he wants anyhow, that way if we aren't ready to hand the job to him in 2007 he can sign elseware and Henson can finally get a chance to show he can play!

 

[SkinsandTerps]

I know what you are saying, but its not like Parcells has screwed up other QB's that went on to become solid players with his methods. I mean Simms dealt with it, Bledsoe dealt with it, Romo appears to be able to deal with it. It might come down to what some have speculated with DH and thats a lack of mental toughness.

Different types of History with those franchises. Giants and Pats werent used to winning when Parcells arrived. Cowboys on the other hand were a year removed from the playoffs, with a rich tradition.

 

[Cochese]

Different types of History with those franchises. Giants and Pats werent used to winning when Parcells arrived. Cowboys on the other hand were a year removed from the playoffs, with a rich tradition.

You do realize the Cowboys actually MADE the playoffs in Parcells first year, right? After three straigh 5-11 seasons.

 

[chinch]

Nah....Parcells is simply the wrong coach at the wrong time for Henson.

Parcells has said Henson's biggest problem is that he doesn't relax...that his mind is too busy...

So ya think a good coach for a kid like that is someone who is a mind screwing hardarse?

Wrong time, wrong place.

Maybe he needs joe torre.... or just maybe he's in the right place at the right time.... tuna is a master at reclaimation projects

but give it up already with Henson.... he has shown NOTHING and has no purpose playing this preseason. Maybe next year (he's signed for a while 'ya know).

 

[RCowboyFan]

Parcells made a big stink about not pushing a QB into a game too early because of the risk of "losing" him...and that's exactly what he did on Thanksgiving.

Yep, I am starting to believe that too. Its strange that we read how Henson has improved "Mucho better", according to Mickey, then boom, next week, he is bum. I just don't get how he went from stud to dud within days? What surprises me, to see Henson not sulking on sidelines today. I really thought Henson probably would be down or stand offish considering the talk that he might be traded etc.

Its really a mystery to me. Since I thought for sure, last week, Henson days with Cowboys is done, and soon would be released or traded. I guess that could still happen, but I am no longer sure of that. It almost seems like we wont know what will happen till something really happens.

I mean, if you really want to cut ties with Henson, one would think you would get a series or two with probably 3rd string QB, Matt Baker. Or they that confident that there would be never a use for 3rd string QB or Vinny is on hand? I guess Parcells intends to play Baker whole half or two next two games

 

[Juke99]

I know what you are saying, but its not like Parcells has screwed up other QB's that went on to become solid players with his methods. I mean Simms dealt with it, Bledsoe dealt with it, Romo appears to be able to deal with it. It might come down to what some have speculated with DH and thats a lack of mental toughness.

Some guys respond. Some don't.

Clearly Henson doesn't. But because he doesn't respond, it doesn't mean he isn't mentally tough.

It's just my opinion that a coach is best when he can change his style to get the most out of a player.

I saw an interview with Angelo Dundee talking about the difference in the way he handled Ali and Ray Leonard...extreme opposites...and Dundee altered his style to get the most out of them.

Parcells will never to that.

 

[rcaldw]

I know what you are saying, but its not like Parcells has screwed up other QB's that went on to become solid players with his methods. I mean Simms dealt with it, Bledsoe dealt with it, Romo appears to be able to deal with it. It might come down to what some have speculated with DH and thats a lack of mental toughness.

That IS a possibility. It COULD be that Henson just doesn't have the mental toughness to play the position. But you have to at least acknowledge that Parcells may not be the right fit FOR THIS PLAYER. I mean that DOES happen. It happens that one coach can't get something out of a player that another coach can because they take different approaches. What Simms and Bledsoe and Romo respond to, may not be what it takes to get the most out of Henson. Or, as you suggest, maybe it will be proven in the end he just didn't have it. I would like to see what he could do with another approach.

It would be interesting to see what a Norv Turner or someone similar could do with Henson.

 

[SloppyOctopuss]

Maybe he needs joe torre.... or just maybe he's in the right place at the right time.... tuna is a master at reclaimation projects

but give it up already with Henson.... he has shown NOTHING and has no purpose playing this preseason. Maybe next year (he's signed for a while 'ya know).

He has shown a lot, did you watch any of the NFL Europe games? He was on fire and was probably the best player in that league until he got hurt.

Henson deserves a chance to play, especially in the exibition games. If anything maybe Parcells is letting him rest a little before playing him the next few weeks since he played a lot of football already a few months ago.

 

[peplaw06]

I agree with your thinking peplaw, but I guess my question is, which is it? Does he have value or not? If he has value, WORK WITH HIM, devote attention to him, let him PLAY sometimes. (Like a pre-season 4th quarter) If he has no value, if YOU ARE REALLY THAT DOWN ON HIM, then let him go. The guy is still young, and has the physical tools necessary to play on the NFL level, maybe someone else can get out of him what Parcells can't. Just my opinion, of course.

The bottom line is we have two backup QBs whose biggest weakness is that they're inexperienced. Henson has gotten some PT, we have seen him in the regular season, and we have NFLE tape on him. Romo doesn't have that much PT. So we play him to see what we have.

I think if we really thought Henson had nothing, no place on this team, or did us no good, then we would cut him or trade him. That's not the case. They obviously see something. There are things he needs to work on, and BP told us the main problem this week, nervousness. The thing with nervousness is it's one of those things that, when you least expect it, a guy can snap out of. In that case, a guy will make a rapid leap in his performance.

IMO if Henson doesn't get over this in the next year or so, he will be cut. He counts against our cap if it's any earlier. That is if we can't trade him. But there's always going to be a reluctance to cut your losses with a guy though if you think he has something.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

It's been clear from the start...Parcells has not wanted to invest the time in a project like Henson.

Given the situation, that this is Parcells' last run at a ring, I suppose I understand that.

But it doesn't change the fact that IMO, he's done a lousy job with Henson.

Fair enough, but why the confidence in Romo or the alleged (I dont know how to put it) favoritism ? It isnt like Romo has ever done anything in the league either.

And of course Bill wants to win now, that why he was brought in. If not for his status I think Jerry would have sent him packing by now.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

You do realize the Cowboys actually MADE the playoffs in Parcells first year, right? After three straigh 5-11 seasons.

I worded that wrong.

I meant when acquiring a new QB project.

 

[Cochese]

Sure you did. You said that the Pats and Giants werent used to winning? What do you call three straight 5-11 seasons?

 

[Juke99]

Fair enough, but why the confidence in Romo or the alleged (I dont know how to put it) favoritism ? It isnt like Romo has ever done anything in the league either.

And of course Bill wants to win now, that why he was brought in. If not for his status I think Jerry would have sent him packing by now.

I do think that Henson got caught between Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells...I can't prove that...but to see Henson standing on the sidelines on Thanksgiving looking depressed as hell with Jerry standing next to him trying to encourage him, said alot to me. Henson is Jerry's guy.

 

[chinch]

Fair enough, but why the confidence in Romo or the alleged (I dont know how to put it) favoritism ? It isnt like Romo has ever done anything in the league either.

And of course Bill wants to win now, that why he was brought in. If not for his status I think Jerry would have sent him packing by now.

common sense doesn't go over too well here when STUD BLONDE QBS are being discussed

sloppy - henson didn't show do much in Europe. any legit QB would have torn it up over there. Tuna even said he expected more then and now.

ps - if henson is so great, where are the plethora of trade offers??? oops.

 

[peplaw06]

Boy you Henson lovers are going to love this hypothetical...

What if.... bear with me...

Romo is the trade bait??

If that has been BP's plan all along. The media hype, etc. If Henson is the guy they want as the backup.






















Yeah probably not, but interesting to think about... Of course it would be a moot point if the Romo extension were finalized.

 

[RCowboyFan]

I do think that Henson got caught between Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells...I can't prove that...but to see Henson standing on the sidelines on Thanksgiving looking depressed as hell with Jerry standing next to him trying to encourage him, said alot to me. Henson is Jerry's guy.

Yeah, he might have been, but seems like BP finally managed to convince Jerry otherwise now.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Sure you did. You said that the Pats and Giants werent used to winning? What do you call three straight 5-11 seasons?

I guess you are too young to remember any of the 5 championships ? 3 under the Current owner ?

 

[Billy Bullocks]

I hope Henson does get some time and lights it up! I really think he would be doing as good as Romo right now, maybe even better. Parcells can't be all that smart if he don't see the raw talent Henson has.

I think Bledsoe will play the entire half of saturdays game and that's it for him until week 1. We should play Romo and Henson a quarter each the 2nd half, then let Henson get some major work against the vikings.

Ive rooted for both the QBs to suceed. My fam went to Michigan. So don't see me as a Henson basher. But lets not forget, he's not the only QB who came into this league with loads of talent only to amount to nothing. It takes more than talent to win, just ask Ryan Leaf.