I would like to hear the arguments of Garrett supporters

[tecolote]

I don't know if another coach can do better with Jerry as the boss.

Garrett has obvious game management problems and his offensive scheme is questionable; however, things could get worse if Jerry hires another Wade Phillips.

Do you want Jerry to make a another Roy Williams or Joey Galloway trade? Garrett appears to at least put up some resistance to Jerry's meddling which is something that Wade and Campo didn't even try to do.

Wade Phillips is a bad head coach, but he is much better than Garrett. After all was said and done, he did pretty well here.

 

[TimHortons]

Wade Phillips is a bad head coach, but he is much better than Garrett. After all was said and done, he did pretty well here.

"Pretty Well" is all relative. Pretty well compared to the Cowboys recent history? Definitely

 

[xwalker]

Wade Phillips is a bad head coach, but he is much better than Garrett. After all was said and done, he did pretty well here.

Do you also have ocean front property in Kansas that you'd like to sell me?

Wade had tons of talent when he was here. He inherited a talent and disciplined roster from Parcells.

Garrett inherited old roster full of players with a sense of entitlement and a huge salary cap mess.

 

[Wheeltax]

I'm a longtime believer in patience in Garrett, but at this point, it's obvious that the Garrett experiment in Dallas isn't working. There are no more excuses. He's had 3+ years now as HC, plenty of time to churn in talent that he wants, plenty of time to implement his system and his culture, plenty of time to prove that he's at least moving in the right direction and, if anything, it's going in the wrong direction.

Sorry, JG. I like you, I think you're a pretty smart guy and you seem nice and all, but it's just time for a change. Turn in your headset and playsheet, and good luck wherever life takes you.

Mr. Callahan, Mr. Kiffin, your services are also no longer needed.

Mr. Jones, please get out too.

 

[tecolote]

Do you also have ocean front property in Kansas that you'd like to sell me?

Wade had tons of talent when he was here. He inherited a talent and disciplined roster from Parcells.

Garrett inherited old roster full of players with a sense of entitlement and a huge salary cap mess.

I'm not talking about what they inherited and such, I'm just looking and facts, wins and losses, nfc east titles, playoff wins and stuff like that. Go look it up.

 

[Miller]

I'm listening to Garrett's press conference right now and the guy just doesn't get it. He basically throws Romo under the bus again but when confronted with, "couldn't you just tell him not to audible out" he gets flustered and starts saying that what he does on the headsets isn't something he needs to talk about. Luckily the media won't let up and they are drilling him. They followed it up saying "why did you give him the option" and Garrett just said he didn't know what they were trying to get at.

 

[Carl23]

I'm on record in the other mega-fire-Garrett thread already. But, in a nutshell, I think there's no excuse for audibling out of a run on offense in position to run the clock down. I don't care if it's on Romo or Callahan, or Garrett, the buck should stop with the head coach on that, and he should be in the headset if he needs to be to make sure we're working the clock down. This is the series Demarco Murray was yelling about, to be clear. It was really, really stupid.

That said, our biggest issue is just that we became defenseless as soon as we lost the backup LBs we had in there, especially Durant at MLB. Our defense is an absolute trainwreck, and no matter where the buck stops for that, it's not very realistic to beat up on the coordinators for not being able to fix it on the fly.

The biggest issue for Garrett now, though, is the way in which we've lost the last few games. We got toyed with in one, and we got the rug yanked out form under us in this one. While I still like everything I always liked about him as a coach, I also think he's pretty close to losing the team for good right now. It's a tall order to think we'd fix the defense in an offseason without another change at coordinator and without introducing a lot of unknowns to the equation. I'm concerned he doesn't have enough runway to make the changes he needs to make. In short, I'd be worried we'd lose a game or two early, and then lose the team altogether. That's a lot of risk to justify giving the guy one more season.

So, I think he needs to win the East, and he probably needs to win a home playoff game, too, to keep his job. I can't see how we can realistically do either of those things with the current defensive personnel. So, I'd bet he's gone after this season, and it will be the right decision.

I do still like the guy a lot, though, and think that many posters don't like him for all the wrong reasons. I hope I'm wrong, and the new guy brings in a positive new direction and a real change in our late season fortunes.

Seriously, one of the best posts on this board in awhile (maybe because I agree with everything you said 100%).

 

[xwalker]

I'm not talking about what they inherited and such, I'm just looking and facts, wins and losses, nfc east titles, playoff wins and stuff like that. Go look it up.

I guess Barry Switzer was a great NFL head coach. He did win a Super Bowl (with Jimmy's players).

 

[CATCH17]

I do still like the guy a lot, though, and think that many posters don't like him for all the wrong reasons. I hope I'm wrong, and the new guy brings in a positive new direction and a real change in our late season fortunes.

My biggest peeve with Garrett is he doesn't win and doesn't give us really any kind of advantage as a coach.

He pretty much sucks.


You give Dave Campo this same talent and you'd be getting the same results.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

I've never been a Garrett (or Romo) supporter, but there are some things that have obviously gotten better since Garrett became head coach. For one, we started to cut ties with all the overpriced veterans. There are some left (not nearly as many as there were 3-4 years ago) but most of them came before Garrett took over. Also, I liked that we addressed the O-line in the first round of the draft. I like Dez, Sean Lee (when healthy), and a few other guys that Garrett drafted. Other than that, I can't think of anything.

 

[jwitten82]

I've never been a Garrett (or Romo) supporter, but there are some things that have obviously gotten better since Garrett became head coach. For one, we started to cut ties with all the overpriced veterans. There are some left (not nearly as many as there were 3-4 years ago) but most of them came before Garrett took over. Also, I liked that we addressed the O-line in the first round of the draft. I like Dez, Sean Lee (when healthy), and a few other guys that Garrett drafted. Other than that, I can't think of anything.

Dez and Lee were drafted when Wade was coach.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I don't want to call anyone out, but i would love to hear from a couple people in particular

true, but there are some who will NEVER admit they are wrong regardless of the situation

 

[Wheeltax]

I guess Barry Switzer was a great NFL head coach. He did win a Super Bowl (with Jimmy's players).

I wonder how Garrett would do with Switzer's talent

 

[visionary]

Do you also have ocean front property in Kansas that you'd like to sell me?

Wade had tons of talent when he was here. He inherited a talent and disciplined roster from Parcells.

Garrett inherited old roster full of players with a sense of entitlement and a huge salary cap mess.

Given a choice between idiots I would rather have the guy who knows he is an idiot over one who thinks he is a genius

 

[tecolote]

I guess Barry Switzer was a great NFL head coach. He did win a Super Bowl (with Jimmy's players).

First of all, I said Wade was a bad head coach, but he was better than the terrible one we have right now. As for Switzer, he was not a great NFL coach, but anything else than winning a Super Bowl would've been considered a failure with him, and he did it. So he gets a pass from me.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

I think you would be hard-pressed to find a single person in this franchise's management or a "franchise player" on this team that is immune from criticism today.

My only problem with replacing Garrett is that you would be treating a symptom and not the disease that has rotted out this franchise. Replacing Garrett would be giving the appearance of motion and improvement when, in fact, the over-riding factor that is ruining our seasons remains the same. You know who I'm talking about,,,

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Dez and Lee were drafted when Wade was coach.

Oh ok. Then I guess the only things I really liked were Tyron and Beard. At least he addressed the O-line. Didn't like the lack of D-line though. I guess you have to credit him for turning this O-line from pathetic into pretty darn good in a matter of 3 years.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Garrett has obvious game management problems and his offensive scheme is questionable; however, things could get worse if Jerry hires another Wade Phillips.

Garrett's bad game management and bad coaching in general have nothing to do with Jerry. It's all him!

 

[Deep_South]

Like Bill Cowher said yesterday, Jerry routinely makes coaching decisions. Jerry says all major decisions are a result of a consensus, but he has all of the money and power, so I think that should be taken with a grain of salt. If there is one universal truth, it would be that people do not routinely want to relinquish power once they have it, IMO. That means Garrett wanting to give up play calling to Callahan does not pass even an initial smell test. It sounds like Jerry's idea, and the real consensus is that everybody wants to keep their jobs, so they do what the boss wants them to do.

As long as Jerry is deciding who calls the plays, and who knows what else, I don't think it matters if we change coaches or not. We need another Parcells, but I doubt if Jerry will do something like that again until he's desperate, like he was when he had three straight 5-11 seasons and needed a new stadium. That new stadium looks like it's going to last for a few decades, at least, so it may be a while until we get a coach who can really get something done.

 

[heavyg]

Im not a Garrett supporter. But here is my take on the next two games. I WANT TO WIN. But, if we lose the thought that Garrett could be gone helps ease the pain. I have become numb to losing over the last few years. I used to be upset for days after a loss. Now its just a hour or so.