If Aikman were the QB

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maybe a better question might be what if emmitt were the rb. we were able to win sans aikman. but not without emmitt.
 

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Irvin and Harper weren't exactly burners. Troy was just laser accurate with the ball.

But Irvin always got open. He was a very good route runner. Other teams accused him of pushing off because he was always open.
 

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If Aikman was the QB, he may have retired or demanded a trade after two years trying to throw to Dez Bryant. If he couldn’t get Dez to run the routes with the precision that allowed his accuracy and timing throws to spots, he would have gone crazy!

I couldn't agree more.
 

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For one win, yes they can. 3 in 4 years no they can't.

Why? If they can do it once, they can do it again.

People need to understand this one simple thing before even considering talking about football:

It's a TEAM game.
 

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And exactly how do you do that? They also played with different defensive rules. Think of it this way............Its January. Who do you want under center? 19 out of 20 Cowboy fans are going to take Aikman over romo in any kind of playoff scenario. Aikman was head and shoulders over Romo in terms of his decision making and leadership on the field. Troy was also way more competitive than tony. Romo was the king of regular season efficiency stats, but how many big games did he win or even play well in?

Wow - I haven't had to do this in awhile because 95% of people get it but I'll go back in the time machine for you. I'm not being mean or sarcastic I'm just surprised.

So here's how I do that and it's pretty easy. It's not an individual sport - it's a team game. It's that simple.

First - what in the world is a big game? It's a disingenuous statement. How many games do you have to win to make the playoffs? as Parcell's said you are what your record says you are and those teams truly were 8-8. Romo made them relevant, but they were never going to win. BTW - please ask Anthony Fasano and Patrick Crayton to hang on to TD passes when they get the chance in a "Big Game.".

Did you know no team has ever won a Super Bowl with a bottom 5 Def Pass Rating which is what Romo played with virtually his entire career because in "January" you have to play elite QB's who shred your defense -- case in point - Aaron Rodgers.

No QB in history has ever NOT won the MVP with Romo's stats in '14 and he played a virtually perfect playoff game against the Packers in a playoff game and lost on one of the worst calls in NFL history. It happens.

Rypien, Dilfer, Flacco and now Foles won a Super Bowl. Marino, Kelly, Moon and Fouts never won a Super Bowl - because they couldn't?

90.75 Playoff QB rating.
8 Td's
2 INT

He was not the problem and just for some reference--

Brady has thrown 3 INT's in TWO separate AFC Championship games and WON them both. Romo NEVER got bailed out of a game like that. Team game.
Roethlisberger won a Super Bowl with a 24 QB rating - Team game.
Eli won two because of two of the greatest defensive playoff runs in Super Bowl history giving up 15 PPG - the ultimate team game.

Troy was great, a great competitor on one of the greatest teams in history. Make no mistake I love Aikman. He also cost us a Super Bowl with a horrible first quarter against the 49ers - it happens and the end of his career was no picnic due to the talent (or lack of it) around him.

Romo was more than good enough but unless you're playing golf or tennis - teams win and teams lose.

There is only one question and you know the answer.

Who would have a better chance to win a Super Bowl, Tony on Troy's teams or Troy on Tony's teams.

That's how you do that. Easy Peazy Lemon Squeezy.
 

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Why? If they can do it once, they can do it again.

People need to understand this one simple thing before even considering talking about football:

It's a TEAM game.
Where's the scrub QB that won 3 in 4 years?
 

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As I said, 1 out 20 would choose Romo. You'd probably take Romo over Montana and Staubach b/c you don't remember them either.

You’re good at coming up with ideas and projecting them on to others and putting words in their mouth.
 

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But Irvin always got open. He was a very good route runner. Other teams accused him of pushing off because he was always open.


Irvin was notorious for pushing off. But, back in the 90's they allowed more physical contact so it went both ways. The timing he had with Troy was remarkable. Troy didn't throw the ball to Irvin. He knew exactly where Irvin was going to come open and would throw the ball to a spot on the field.............often before Irvin was even looking for the ball. It was just about impossible to defend.
 

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You are funny dude, the rings angle is flawed, Aikman had a far better team around him offensively and defensively....lol

The "rings angle" is how QBs are measured. Thats just the way it works in football. Winning matters. The HOF matters. You've got nothing but vague recollections and some very unpopular opinions to build your case.

I was a romo fan but in no way was he a better QB than Troy. You must have been a child in the 90's to have such an opinion.
 

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Where's the scrub QB that won 3 in 4 years?

Because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't happen. That's not a good argument. Obviously, a good QB makes winning more likely. It means the rest of the team doesn't have to be as good. It doesn't change the fact that it's a team game. The greatest QB in history on a crap team isn't going to win.
 

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The "rings angle" is how QBs are measured. Thats just the way it works in football.

This is the worst argument. "That's just how they're measured." It requires no critical thinking or rational thought. Just because other people measure QBs using an illogical standard, doesn't mean you have to follow suit. Use your noggin.
 

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If Aikman was the current QB of the Cowboys this past season in his prime, how do you think he would fare with these receivers and what do you think his opinion would be of them?

They wouldn't be. Aikman would not throw to guys who didn't run precise routes and who didn't make the catches. I mean, that's just the way he worked. IMO, none of these guys would be here, if Troy was still playing.
 

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This is the worst argument. "That's just how they're measured." It requires no critical thinking or rational thought. Just because other people measure QBs using an illogical standard, doesn't mean you have to follow suit. Use your noggin.

Never the less, I believe the poster is correct. This is who QBs are measured. See it time and time again.
 

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If either Aikman or Romo were the QB in 2017 we are a SB contender, that’s how much we missed great QB play. Dak played like a below average QB in the NFL and that simply doesn’t cut it.


Not with Garrett coaching this team.

We needed Romo to have a chance in Atlanta. Troy would've got destroyed in Atlanta.
 

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Never the less, I believe the poster is correct. This is who QBs are measured. See it time and time again.


We don't have to be as lazy as sports writers and media people if we don't want to be though.


Aaron Rodgers is a better Quarterback then Tom Brady. I don't care if Brady has been to 8 Superbowls. He's not better then Rodgers.
 

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Not with Garrett coaching this team.

We needed Romo to have a chance in Atlanta. Troy would've got destroyed in Atlanta.
Romo would have gotten destroyed in Atlanta. Would have been out by the end of the 1st quarter.
 

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Because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't happen. That's not a good argument. Obviously, a good QB makes winning more likely. It means the rest of the team doesn't have to be as good. It doesn't change the fact that it's a team game. The greatest QB in history on a crap team isn't going to win.
For 52 years it's been a great argument. It is what it is. I agree with the the other points, we are not in much disagreement.
 

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We don't have to be as lazy as sports writers and media people if we don't want to be though.


Aaron Rodgers is a better Quarterback then Tom Brady. I don't care if Brady has been to 8 Superbowls. He's not better then Rodgers.

I don't believe that. I believe that Tom Brady is the best QB I've seen play, in this era of football.

You may think that this is lazy but I've seen them both and I just think Brady is better.
 
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