If Aikman were the QB

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And exactly how do you do that? They also played with different defensive rules. Think of it this way............Its January. Who do you want under center? 19 out of 20 Cowboy fans are going to take Aikman over romo in any kind of playoff scenario. Aikman was head and shoulders over Romo in terms of his decision making and leadership on the field. Troy was also way more competitive than tony. Romo was the king of regular season efficiency stats, but how many big games did he win or even play well in?

This, if you play fantasy league Romo is your man. He will put up great numbers for you.
 

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Ummmmm, joke right?

Troy Aikman was a 6'5" Ripped Athletic 1st pick in the draft stud with a rocket .Troy Aikman in his prime was a bigger tougher Aaron Rodgers.

Troy won three superbowl championships in 5 years, beat the niners on the road in an nfc championship game. Was the highest rated post season passer in nfl history at the time he retired. And he did this at a time when they let qb's get hammerred! Romo wouldnt have lasted through one season in that NFL.Troy was awesome, a champion and a winner!

Romo is a chubby, short unathletic overachiever who played maybe 10 great games in 10 years! He was a choker and a loser who played like trash and threw game ending picks in almost every single big or meaningful game. His stats are a product of throwing alot trying to come back from behind after his turnovers.

Tony Romo never won anyrhing!

he was the biggest reason the last decade or so has been a complete waste of time! Hes like a jake dellome at best but who never won

Aikman = (3 x champ, winner, hof!)
Romo = (didnt even win 3 playoff games
Loser! Choker! Pudgy golfer)


Here's some real facts to your foolish rant. Aikman had the HUGE advantage of winning Super Bowls with a team built when there WAS NO salary cap. The Cowboys were VERY deep at ALL positions because Jones could pay his backups that would be starters elsewhere starter type money. The proof is when the cap started many of those backups were released and they ended up as starters on other teams. Next, name ANY time, including today, when Romo was chubby and unathletic. Romo was considered by most around the league both players, coaches, announcers and analysts as one of the MOST athletic players in the NFL. Romo used to move and dart around in the backfield for 5, 6, 7 seconds until a recever was open and then fire a strike to them. The ONLY reason the Cowboys did was well as they did during his time is because of what Romo had done. Most other QB's would have been setting records for the number of times they would have been saked, but Romo just kept buying time to get passes off. Romo unfortunately held a couple of records, one good one and one bad one for the defense. While Romo was QB he and the Cowboys had more 4th quarter come from behind wins than any other QB at the time. The Cowboys defense also held the record for the most times Romo and the Cowboys had the lead going into the 4th quarter only to have the defense give that lead up. Aikman was a great QB but was not mobile and if he played on the same team as Romo wouldn't have done as good or lasted as long because he would have been beat up to bad from sacks.

Aikman always had a extremely good team to work with - Romo didn't..
 

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Here's some real facts to your foolish rant. Aikman had the HUGE advantage of winning Super Bowls with a team built when there WAS NO salary cap. The Cowboys were VERY deep at ALL positions because Jones could pay his backups that would be starters elsewhere starter type money. The proof is when the cap started many of those backups were released and they ended up as starters on other teams. Next, name ANY time, including today, when Romo was chubby and unathletic. Romo was considered by most around the league both players, coaches, announcers and analysts as one of the MOST athletic players in the NFL. Romo used to move and dart around in the backfield for 5, 6, 7 seconds until a recever was open and then fire a strike to them. The ONLY reason the Cowboys did was well as they did during his time is because of what Romo had done. Most other QB's would have been setting records for the number of times they would have been saked, but Romo just kept buying time to get passes off. Romo unfortunately held a couple of records, one good one and one bad one for the defense. While Romo was QB he and the Cowboys had more 4th quarter come from behind wins than any other QB at the time. The Cowboys defense also held the record for the most times Romo and the Cowboys had the lead going into the 4th quarter only to have the defense give that lead up. Aikman was a great QB but was not mobile and if he played on the same team as Romo wouldn't have done as good or lasted as long because he would have been beat up to bad from sacks.

Aikman always had a extremely good team to work with - Romo didn't..


It is not a "HUGE advantage" b/c every team in the league plays by the same rules. We weren't the only uncapped team. Seriously dude? You can be fans of both guys. Unfortunately for Tony, Parcels left or his career would have seen a lot more winning. But don't come on here with a silly opinion like Romo was better than Troy.
 

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The question was asked if Aikman in his prime would have brought different results in 2017. First of all we haven't seen Dak in his prime. Second Aikman still would have had the same defense, the same Zeke suspension to deal with and the same injured LT with the same average group of receivers. My answer is the 2017 team would have been no better under Aikman than under Dak. Give or take a win or two. This is not an NFC Champion caliber team, yet

Aikman was a stickler for details. his words to Dez would have been the same as Larry Allens to that little kicker dude "Do your GD job!!!!"
 

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It is not a "HUGE advantage" b/c every team in the league plays by the same rules. We weren't the only uncapped team. Seriously dude? You can be fans of both guys. Unfortunately for Tony, Parcels left or his career would have seen a lot more winning. But don't come on here with a silly opinion like Romo was better than Troy.

Next time try to read a little closer and you will see that I said there was a HUGE difference between the Aikman Super Bowls teams and Romo's teams because during Aikmans time there WAS NO salary cap when the team was built. At no time did I say Romo was a better QB than Aikman. I only stated that Aikman was not mobile and Romo was and if Aikman played with Romo's line he wouldn't have lasted because he would have been killed behind that line. In other words it's foolish to compare between the eras because one had a huge advantage. Yes EVERY team TODAY have to worry about the cap but that wasn't what i said.
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One thing about the NFL with the cap, all teams are equal. Unlike baseball my Reds will never be able to compete with the Yankees and Boston etc. We make a star player and then cant keep him by being in a small market team. Baseball should have a cap to equal out the playing field all around.
 

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This, if you play fantasy league Romo is your man. He will put up great numbers for you.
And if you consistently have a great oline, defesne and coaching...he could take you to a super bowl win or three.

he didn't have that, so he had to improvise.
 

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One thing about the NFL with the cap, all teams are equal. Unlike baseball my Reds will never be able to compete with the Yankees and Boston etc. We make a star player and then cant keep him by being in a small market team. Baseball should have a cap to equal out the playing field all around.
That’s not completely true while they are at a disadvantage. Teams like the Reds choose not to compete in Free Agency.

Smaller market teams don’t even care if they fill the stadiums because their TV packages generate the revenue .

All you need to look is at smaller markets like St Louis see what a greater investment can bring.
 

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That’s not completely true while they are at a disadvantage. Teams like the Reds choose not to compete in Free Agency.

Smaller market teams don’t even care if they fill the stadiums because their TV packages generate the revenue .

All you need to look is at smaller markets like St Louis see what a greater investment can bring.

Stunned they still have Votto.
 

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One thing about the NFL with the cap, all teams are equal. Unlike baseball my Reds will never be able to compete with the Yankees and Boston etc. We make a star player and then cant keep him by being in a small market team. Baseball should have a cap to equal out the playing field all around.


There are advantages and disadvantages to between the NFL,MLB and NBA. In MLB they have that penalty tax now that is to dissuade teams from buying up all the talent. The NFL has the hard cap. On the disadvantage for the NFL, players contracts aren't fully guaranteed. In MLB and the NBA they do, at least for most players. I was so saddened to see the cap start in the NFL. This is a capitalistic society and if there was no cap started I truly believe the Cowboys would have won 3 - 5 more Super Bowls with that 90's team and maybe more. I've always said if a team/owner can't keep up because they are to cheap or unable to spend like Jones and his desire to win Super Bowls, sell the team to someone that can. The cap started basically because of 2 teams. The peckers because they don't have a "owner", the franchise is held by the local American Legion Post and the browns because Art Model was to cheap and had the least amount of personal wealth of all the rest of the owners.
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Next time try to read a little closer and you will see that I said there was a HUGE difference between the Aikman Super Bowls teams and Romo's teams because during Aikmans time there WAS NO salary cap when the team was built. At no time did I say Romo was a better QB than Aikman. I only stated that Aikman was not mobile and Romo was and if Aikman played with Romo's line he wouldn't have lasted because he would have been killed behind that line. In other words it's foolish to compare between the eras because one had a huge advantage. Yes EVERY team TODAY have to worry about the cap but that wasn't what i said.
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How is having no cap an advantage for Aikman? That makes no sense. If anything its easier to build a team now b/c you can get parts in free agency. It took longer to build pre-1996.. We just haven't had a good team builder in Dallas since Parcels left.
 

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How is having no cap an advantage for Aikman? That makes no sense. If anything its easier to build a team now b/c you can get parts in free agency. It took longer to build pre-1996.. We just haven't had a good team builder in Dallas since Parcels left.
There is some truth to this. You still need to have an eye for talent and basically build thru the draft. And there was FA before the Cap.

The major difference is you can’t afford to retain all of your players beyond their Rookie contracts which forces you to manage your rosters differently.

The teams having the most success this era have the ability to continue churning their roster balancing the Cap with young players and veterans who continue to produce.
 

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Having a Cap was an advantage for Troy only because we had built a great team they could hang on to longer than you could now.

We could have built a better team around Romo but we didn’t . That’s on Jerry not the Cap.

The Cap doesn’t allow you to overcome missing in the draft because you can’t afford in Cap to go out buy enough talented guys to fill all the holes you miss in the draft.
 

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There are advantages and disadvantages to between the NFL,MLB and NBA. In MLB they have that penalty tax now that is to dissuade teams from buying up all the talent. The NFL has the hard cap. On the disadvantage for the NFL, players contracts aren't fully guaranteed. In MLB and the NBA they do, at least for most players. I was so saddened to see the cap start in the NFL. This is a capitalistic society and if there was no cap started I truly believe the Cowboys would have won 3 - 5 more Super Bowls with that 90's team and maybe more. I've always said if a team/owner can't keep up because they are to cheap or unable to spend like Jones and his desire to win Super Bowls, sell the team to someone that can. The cap started basically because of 2 teams. The peckers because they don't have a "owner", the franchise is held by the local American Legion Post and the browns because Art Model was to cheap and had the least amount of personal wealth of all the rest of the owners.
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Agree
 

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And exactly how do you do that? They also played with different defensive rules. Think of it this way............Its January. Who do you want under center? 19 out of 20 Cowboy fans are going to take Aikman over romo in any kind of playoff scenario. Aikman was head and shoulders over Romo in terms of his decision making and leadership on the field. Troy was also way more competitive than tony. Romo was the king of regular season efficiency stats, but how many big games did he win or even play well in?


How many big games has Peyton Manning played good in? At some point the guys around you have to step up.

Our defenses have just allowed too many points in big games for us to ever stand a real chance.

Aikman usually played with a top NFL defense and could play 2nd fiddle to the Jerry Rice of Runningbacks in Emmitt Smith.

Emmitt was our horse. Aikman just rode the horse.

Romo had to be the horse, driver, teacher, and whatever else you can think of.

Aikman just played in a more optimal situation.

When FA killed our roster Aikman was a shell.
 

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  1. Aikman
  2. Romo - that's my homie but comeon Troy is da man
  3. Dak - he's third cause we are only comparing those three in the thread. Obviously guys like a Danny white, Roger etc would be better
 
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