If Colt does not go down, who are the National Champs today?

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dbair1967;3207996 said:
Got a link to the video of it? Or this still pic?

I honestly dont remember anything other than when I saw it live. I do know it seems to be only Texas fans that think the call was absolutely correct.

Fast forward to 3:10 of the video.

[youtube]2u9faBwfQDk[/youtube]
 

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dbair1967;3207988 said:
Nebraska didnt play Alabama's schedule either.

As for the Bradford comment, you basically intimated that Texas could have handled OU with Bradford, but not Alabama. So I responded by noting that Bradford had basically nothign to do with the outcome of OU/Texas because he hardly played. OU was incredibly mediocre this year.

I'm sure on any given day any team "can play with" a certain team, but I doubt you'd find anybody, and certainly not a number of neutral people who'd agree with you that OU or Nebraska were anywhere near as good as Alabama this year.

That's true but what does that have to do with Nebraska having a better defense and/or being able to play with Alabama?

I intimate nothing. Texas has played OU with a healthy Bradford and come out victorious. Bama has not but that's here nor there. With a healthy Bradford, Bama would be hard pressed to beat OU. OU's defense is also very good and, IMO, would play very well against Bama's offense. Honestly, Bama is not special offensively. If you score early on them, you can beat them because all they have is a running attack. OU with Bradford could do that IMO.

I'm pretty certain that I could find a great many people who would say that OU with the #7 defense in the country and a healthy Heisman Winner Bradford at QB could not only play with OU but stand a very good chance of beating them.

I'm also certain that I could find a decent amount of people who look at what Nebraska was able to do against Texas with Colt and what they did to Az and say that Nebraska could also play with Bama.

After last night, I think there are probably a good many people who are not nearly as impressed with Alabama's defense and recognize that Bama, for the most part, is one dimensional on offense. Lets not go into special teams because Bama was horrid in this area.
 

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now we got to hear the Texas fans cry

we would have won if we had Colt

get over it

thats Macks fault - he should of played the Gilbert when hew got up by 20 pts

instead of padding Colts stats
 

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ScipioCowboy;3208020 said:
Fast forward to 3:10 of the video.

[youtube]2u9faBwfQDk[/youtube]

Thanks for putting this up, but it really doesnt show anything because you cant see it. When does the ball hit the ground?

I still have no idea whether the call was right or wrong. The fact that he even put them in the position to where that could happen though is probably more of the issue.
 

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UnoDallas;3208034 said:
now we got to hear the Texas fans cry

we would have won if we had Colt

get over it

thats Macks fault - he should of played the Gilbert when hew got up by 20 pts

instead of padding Colts stats

Who's the backup for Bama? Does anybody know right quick who the backup is for Florida? Would anybody other then an OU fan have known who the backup was for Bradford earlier in the year? I know anybody can jump on Google and find out but what I'm trying to say is that if your in the hunt for a National Championship, you don't really get your backup QB a lot of reps.

If you want to say it's Mack's fault, then fine, it's Mack's fault and he would probably be the first to agree with you. However, that's not really the way it works most times and even if he did have a seasoned guy behind Colt, that player would not have been ready to step in against Alabama in that situation. It is what it is.
 

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dbair1967;3208060 said:
Thanks for putting this up, but it really doesnt show anything because you cant see it. When does the ball hit the ground?

I still have no idea whether the call was right or wrong. The fact that he even put them in the position to where that could happen though is probably more of the issue.

I suppose that you will simply have to take our word for it. When the game was played, they superimposed both images and you could clearly see, without a doubt, that there was time still left on the clock.
 

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dbair1967;3207996 said:
Got a link to the video of it? Or this still pic?

I honestly dont remember anything other than when I saw it live. I do know it seems to be only Texas fans that think the call was absolutely correct.
What exactly is your agenda? You seem to be dissing Texas and the Big 12 in every possible manner. There must be a reason why you are wallowing in the mud (and slingin' it!) today.

Tough week at the office? Bad holidays? What's up with you, DB?
 

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ABQCOWBOY;3208073 said:
I suppose that you will simply have to take our word for it. When the game was played, they superimposed both images and you could clearly see, without a doubt, that there was time still left on the clock.

Ultimately maybe it was the right call, but isnt the rule that there has to be INDISPUTABLE VIDEO evidence to overturn the call on the field? I jsut dont recall ever seeing anything indisputable. I doubt they showed the refs anything where shots were super imposed. They did rule originally that time ran out, correct?
 

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DFWJC;3208085 said:
What exactly is your agenda? You seem to be dissing Texas and the Big 12 in very possible manner. There must be a reason why you are wallowing in the mud (and slingin' it!) today.

Tough week at the office? Bad holidays? What's up with you, DB?

I dont have any "agenda". I do however firmly believe that the SEC is better than the other conferences. And also firmly believe the system they use now is a total fruad.
 

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dbair1967;3208060 said:
Thanks for putting this up, but it really doesnt show anything because you cant see it. When does the ball hit the ground?

I still have no idea whether the call was right or wrong. The fact that he even put them in the position to where that could happen though is probably more of the issue.

Actually, I contend the issue is more this: Colt McCoy owns virtually every major passing record at the University of Texas and more wins than any other quarterback in the history of college football.

He was a great collegiate quarterback, and had a very successful college career, which is now over. It's troubling he was injured last night, but that is now past. It's my sincere desire that everyone acknowledge his accomplishments and give him his due.

It's a pity some can't.
 

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dbair1967;3208113 said:
Ultimately maybe it was the right call, but isnt the rule that there has to be INDISPUTABLE VIDEO evidence to overturn the call on the field? I jsut dont recall ever seeing anything indisputable. I doubt they showed the refs anything where shots were super imposed. They did rule originally that time ran out, correct?

Well, as the video shows, there was a tick remaining on the clock when the ball hit the ground. I saw it and, clearly, so did the refs.
 

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dbair1967;3208119 said:
I dont have any "agenda". I do however firmly believe that the SEC is better than the other conferences. And also firmly believe the system they use now is a total fruad.

Well if that's all it is, I can agree with you wholeheartedly on both accounts. just seemed a bit more person for some reason and I was curious what was behind it.

SEC is better than the rest, imo. But i don't think the Big 12 is trash.
The system is broken, and that bothers me beyond what I can say here.
 

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dbair1967;3208113 said:
Ultimately maybe it was the right call, but isnt the rule that there has to be INDISPUTABLE VIDEO evidence to overturn the call on the field? I jsut dont recall ever seeing anything indisputable. I doubt they showed the refs anything where shots were super imposed. They did rule originally that time ran out, correct?

In college, the refs don't see the play. In college, there is a both who determins if the call is correct or not and then it is communicated to the officials on the field. The evidence was undisputable. It was the correct call right down to the football landing and the clock ticking.
 

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ScipioCowboy;3208127 said:
Well, as the video shows, there was a tick remaining on the clock when the ball hit the ground. I saw it and, clearly, so did the refs.
I have that Tevoed and there is NO dispute that there was time remaining...I was disappointed that Colt allowed it to be so close though.
 

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dbair1967;3208113 said:
Ultimately maybe it was the right call, but isnt the rule that there has to be INDISPUTABLE VIDEO evidence to overturn the call on the field? I jsut dont recall ever seeing anything indisputable. I doubt they showed the refs anything where shots were super imposed. They did rule originally that time ran out, correct?


I don't have a dog in this but the question I have is this, does Nebraska get that call if things are reversed there?
 

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alohawg;3208202 said:
I don't have a dog in this but the question I have is this, does Nebraska get that call if things are reversed there?

I don't understand the question? Are you asking if Nebraska would have gotten the second or two back if they were on offense and Texas were on defense?

If that is your question, the answer is yes. I believe that in the last 2 minutes of each half, all close calls are reviewed by replay. Their is no challenge flag or anything like that. They simply review it and whatever the finding is, that's the call. This is not a situation where Texas got a nod because they are Texas. This is about making sure the right call is made. If I didn't understand your question, then I am sorry in advance.
 

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Listening to 103.3 ESPN.

Some of the things these UT fans are saying is just crazy.

One fan claims that Alabama should be ashamed at winning the National Title.

This is almost worst then the fan that called into The Ticket before the Rose Bowl game against USC and said that Mack Brown would have to win 5 more championships before the Texas faithful would forgive him for all his past failures :eek: .
 

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alohawg;3208202 said:
I don't have a dog in this but the question I have is this, does Nebraska get that call if things are reversed there?

I think we're on the same page.
 

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ScipioCowboy;3208127 said:
Well, as the video shows, there was a tick remaining on the clock when the ball hit the ground. I saw it and, clearly, so did the refs.

you can see the ball hit the ground in that video?
 

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dbair1967;3208233 said:
you can see the ball hit the ground in that video?

The ball hits behind the net at 3:25.

Here's a brighter video with the clock and video overlay.

[youtube]nJpuj7RLK0U[/youtube]

But I venture you're still going to see what you want to see.
 
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