If missing the playoffs means Wade is gone...

[Hostile]

What the hell has Stephen done for you consider him the "football mind" of the family?

How about the testimony of Jimmy Johnson and others around the NFL on how good he is at what he does?

Oh no, what would those types know? I forget.

 

[Monster Heel]

How about the testimony of Jimmy Johnson and others around the NFL on how good he is at what he does?

Oh no, what would those types know? I forget.

Didn't Jimmy Johnson think this team was "different" a few weeks ago?

He's a talking head at this point.

 

[WoodysGirl]

How about the testimony of Jimmy Johnson and others around the NFL on how good he is at what he does?

Oh no, what would those types know? I forget.

But that's not really the point, Hos.

Stephen has learned at the feet of Jerry. He's been in the business only two years less than Jerry, but he's considered more of a football man than his father.

This is not knocking Stephen, because I do think this franchise would be in good hands, but I don't understand this logic that as soon as Jerry steps aside that all will somehow change with the Cowboys.

Who do they think Stephen learned football from?

 

[Hostile]

But that's not really the point, Hos.

Stephen has learned at the feet of Jerry. He's been in the business only two years less than Jerry, but he's considered more of a football than his father.

This is not knocking Stephen, because I do think this franchise would be in good hands, but I don't understand this logic that as soon as Jerry steps aside that all will somehow change with the Cowboys.

Who do they think Stephen learned football from?

Jerry is better at what he does than a lot of people realize. That's the sad part of all of this.

 

[Bach]

But that's not really the point, Hos.

Stephen has learned at the feet of Jerry. He's been in the business only two years less than Jerry, but he's considered more of a football than his father.

This is not knocking Stephen, because I do think this franchise would be in good hands, but I don't understand this logic that as soon as Jerry steps aside that all will somehow change with the Cowboys.

Who do they think Stephen learned football from?

Good point.

But I do have more hope with Stephen simply because I don't think he's nearly the egomaniac his dad is. But, we could all just be in for a big surprise.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I posted this in another thread, so I may as well paraphrase it here since my reply in this thread has called my Cowboys loyalty into question :

I was never really happy about the choice of Wade Phillips as Cowboys HC. I'm ready to see him gone.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT JUMPING OFF OF THE COWBOYS BANDWAGON.

That's something I will never do.

Please don't hold me responsible for anything I say this week: I'm feeling the pressure of living among Aints fans here on the bayou. I tend to get really nervous when big games are on the line, and I've had this one circled ever since the schedule came out!!

 

[Bach]

Jerry is better at what he does than a lot of people realize. That's the sad part of all of this.

:laugh2:

 

[craig71]

I think Stephen is a pretty smart cookie,they don't put dummies on the competition committee.I think that where Stephen excels is taking the best traits of those around him and aplying those traits to the challenges that face him.I'm sure he has learned things from Wade and i'm also sure he learned a thing or two from Parcells.He's also had the benefit of learning from the mistakes that Jerry has made along the way and how those mistakes can haunt a franchise years down the road.I also think what allows him to adapt and absorb information so well is his lack of a mega-sized ego.


Craig

 

[Juke99]

Jerry is better at what he does than a lot of people realize. That's the sad part of all of this.

Miguel, you and I have gone round and round on this...

If you want to give Jerry props as an owner who wants to win. No problem.

Even if you want to give him props on his input into player selection, cap management. No problem. In fact, I'll even give ya some latitude about his selection of coaches.

But he sucks at running an organization. Most self made successes do. Basic business principles of business management elude him. Not even a point for discussion. He plain flat out sucks at it.

And the problem is, you can assemble all the parts, but if you insist on taking the wheel when you don't drive well, nothing good is going to come from that.

 

[Bach]

Miguel, you and I have gone round and round on this...

If you want to give Jerry props as an owner who wants to win. No problem.

Even if you want to give him props on his input into player selection, cap management. No problem. In fact, I'll even give ya some latitude about his selection of coaches.

But he sucks at running an organization. Most self made successes do. Basic business principles of business management elude him. Not even a point for discussion. He plain flat out sucks at it.

And the problem is, you can assemble all the parts, but if you insist on taking the wheel when you don't drive well, nothing good is going to come from that.

^
This

 

[Alexander]

I think having a good working relationship with Jones is important

When you say "good working relationship" you do mean being a flunky, right?

 

[Doomsday101]

When you say "good working relationship" you do mean being a flunky, right?

No because I do think Jerry listens to the his input. I think that is evident by Brooking, Sensabaugh,Igor and Decallima being members of this team along with some of the other defensive addition in we have added to the defense since Wade has been here.

 

[Alexander]

Jerry is better at what he does than a lot of people realize. That's the sad part of all of this.

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I guess that depends on what you mean by "at what he does".

If it means being a promoter of his brand, sideshow barker and salesman, absolutely. He's the best.

Talent evaluation? Running a successful football team as the driving force behind all things personnel, no.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

How about the testimony of Jimmy Johnson and others around the NFL on how good he is at what he does?

Oh no, what would those types know? I forget.

Ok i'll ask this again. What has Stephen done for you to assume that he's the football mind of the family? What has he done in sports in general? This reminds me about 10 years ago when Mavs fans use to tell me Donnie Nelson was the football mind in the Nelson family and soon as his dads leave the talent starts to become inferior to what it once was. We can sit here and assume what Stephen can be but there's not zero proof that he's anymore of a football mind the Jerry is. And let's be honest here. Jerry has screwed up. But let's not act like these screws up have occurred this decade. The f's occurred trying to follow up Jimmy.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

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I guess that depends on what you mean by "at what he does".

If it means being a promoter of his brand, sideshow barker and salesman, absolutely. He's the best.

Talent evaluation? Running a successful football team as the driving force behind all things personnel, no.

You believe this team lacks talent? Or do you give Parcells credit for this teams talent?

 

[Alexander]

You believe this team lacks talent? Or do you give Parcells credit for this teams talent?

It took Coach Parcells revamping the scouting department and reinstalling order to something that Jones took great pains to rip apart after Jimmy Johnson left. I give a lot of credit to Parcells for simply ridding the organization of Larry Lacewell and establishing some semblance of rational thought in the draft room. Before that, it was comical.

Talent evaluation isn't simply being around to "listen" to his scouts as he finally started doing more consistently. It is no different than his ability to listen to his geologists about where to best drill for oil. Every now and again, he can guess and hit a gusher. That doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about on a technical level.

As much as Jones fashions himself as being a talent evaluator/poobah ala Al Davis, he simply isn't.

 

[Doomsday101]

It took Coach Parcells revamping the scouting department and reinstalling order to something that Jones took great pains to rip apart after Jimmy Johnson left. I give a lot of credit to Parcells for simply ridding the organization of Larry Lacewell and establishing some semblance of rational thought in the draft room. Before that, it was comical.

Talent evaluation isn't simply being around to "listen" to his scouts as he finally started doing more consistently. It is no different than his ability to listen to his geologists about where to best drill for oil. Every now and again, he can guess and hit a gusher. That doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about on a technical level.

As much as Jones fashions himself as being a talent evaluator/poobah ala Al Davis, he simply isn't.

BP did some good things and we have continued. I have nothing bad to say about BP but Jones changed how things would be done. Remember Jerry is the boss nothing happens unless he lets it happen. Jerry still listens to his scouts and the input of the coaches

 

[Beast_from_East]

I just cant see how Jerry could keep Wade if we either dont make the playoff or make the playoffs and are one-and-done.

The fans would practically riot.



That being said.......No way in hell would I ever root for the Boyz to lose.

 

[Idgit]

If winning the Superbowl means one more year of Wade, should we try not to win the Superbowl on purpose?

 

[Maikeru-sama]

:bang2:

Okay, so maybe the fanbase needs to be blasted.