If Shottenheimer is named the head coach of the Cowboys, I am out

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Sad to say, but this front office isn't about winning or doing what's best for the team and players, nevermind the fans. They crap on all of it and simply don't care. Can't complain when players deserve the opportunity to get a ring and ownership does nothing about it. Even now when they can actually make a solid change they go with the usual "we like our guys" routine. Jerry and Stephen have completely sucked the life out of this organization. When all hope is lost, that pretty much sums it up.. this team has no shot with them running things.
 
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Why wait? There is not a head coach out there that can fix this team. Good coach might win 8 games, a bad one maybe only 3 but the results are the same. No playoffs, not even a chance at a ring.
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jerry is milking this to be talked about lol, all a game to him. He will make announcement SB week.
 
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If Shottenheimer is named the head coach of the Cowboys, I am out.

I know no one cares if I am in or out, but after 65 years of being a Cowboys fan, I believe it is telling that a lifelong fan will call it quits with his team. I glommed on to the Cowboys when they were competing with the Dallas Texans. I especially imprinted on No. 17, Dandy Don Meredith. He was and remains my favorite player of all time. That is not meant to say that he was the best player, even at his position, it was his humanity, cool, and humor. Who is the best player at his position on the Cowboys all the time? Hands down, Troy Aikman. I have seen every QB, up close and personal. No one threw the ball with such precision. When he targeted Irwin, the ball was placed right between the 8s. His long ball was also a thing of beauty. He also had fire in his belly and never backed down. Many folks would say Roger. As much as Roger was a great representative of the organization, his passing abilities were nowhere close to Aikman's. I remember going to many games and watching Staubach's first few passes. If his down and outs to Pearson sailed well above his head, as it often did, then we were in for a long day. And it happened a lot. Roger was a great leader and athlete. His Roger Dogger abilities were impressive. But if you had to pick one Cowboys' QB, it has to be Troy.

But I regress. I was at the last Super Bowl that Dallas played in. It was against Pittsburgh in Tempe. Cowboys won. Because of Cowher, the game was closer than it should have been. Since then we have endured 30 years of ineptitude. I don't need to discuss this, we all know the reasons why.

This leads to my declaration. If Shottenheimer is named head coach I am out. If this is Jerry's move it says that he does not care about winning. I have suspected that for a long time. This would be my final straw.

About 5 years ago I stopped buying anything Cowboys and I refused to go to a game either at Jerry World or on the road. I was done giving the Jones family any of my hard-earned money. I have advised other Cowboys fans to do the same thing. Jerry only cares about two things; Jerry and money. He is a narcissist and a money grubber of the worst kind.

Shottenheimer is a person who got his job because of his father. He was so negatively regarded that McCarthy decided he would call plays instead of leaving that to his offensive coordinator. Shottenheimer has shown nothing to indicate that he is any more than a position coach. Making him the HC is expedient for Jerry. Shotty will not rock the boat, will let Jerry interfere in all decisions and most importantly won't cost Jerry money. My guess is that he would take less money than Big Mike. That will make Jerry a very happy guy.

The only thing wrong with this equation is that the team will not improve, the Cowboys will continue their mediocrity and the fan base, including me, will continue to be frustrated.

I have seen this movie before. It has repeated for 30 years. It is the same BS every year. I always joke about the Cowboys always winning the Super Bowl twice a year. Once, right after the draft and the other in training camp. In those two moments, Jerry is waxing his complete bull **** and we the fans somehow buy into it even as our minds know better. Jerry is the ultimate P.T. Barnum and I have been the ultimate sucker for now going on 3 decades. That will end immediately after the coronation of the next Head Coach Flunky. Fool me 30 times shame on me.

If this is the eventuality, I will watch the NFL with dispassion. I will not care who wins or who loses. The league has become a shadow of its former self. The league declared itself as "entertainment" to obtain a waiver from anti-trust regulation and with that declaration the honesty of the league came into serious question. Now that the league endorsed gambling and is profiting from the same, the credibility of the outcome of games, especially the big ones is seriously in question, at least with me. (See the last three SBs. In each, the team that won, was referee aided in their winning drive, not just once, but several times for infractions of the rules that no one else saw.

So it is all up to Jerry. Name Shotty as the next head coach and I am out of here. So, Jerry what is it going to be?
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I agree with most of what you say,but I am ok with shotty.
NO guy they interviewed or talked about can do better than mike or JG.
So it doesnt matter. Shot seems likable, more so than the others.

If jerry had hired BB or Ben Johnson then there would be hope, but he didnt so I think shot is just fine.
 
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Pokes12 said:
If Shottenheimer is named the head coach of the Cowboys, I am out.

I know no one cares if I am in or out, but after 65 years of being a Cowboys fan, I believe it is telling that a lifelong fan will call it quits with his team. I glommed on to the Cowboys when they were competing with the Dallas Texans. I especially imprinted on No. 17, Dandy Don Meredith. He was and remains my favorite player of all time. That is not meant to say that he was the best player, even at his position, it was his humanity, cool, and humor. Who is the best player at his position on the Cowboys all the time? Hands down, Troy Aikman. I have seen every QB, up close and personal. No one threw the ball with such precision. When he targeted Irwin, the ball was placed right between the 8s. His long ball was also a thing of beauty. He also had fire in his belly and never backed down. Many folks would say Roger. As much as Roger was a great representative of the organization, his passing abilities were nowhere close to Aikman's. I remember going to many games and watching Staubach's first few passes. If his down and outs to Pearson sailed well above his head, as it often did, then we were in for a long day. And it happened a lot. Roger was a great leader and athlete. His Roger Dogger abilities were impressive. But if you had to pick one Cowboys' QB, it has to be Troy.

But I regress. I was at the last Super Bowl that Dallas played in. It was against Pittsburgh in Tempe. Cowboys won. Because of Cowher, the game was closer than it should have been. Since then we have endured 30 years of ineptitude. I don't need to discuss this, we all know the reasons why.

This leads to my declaration. If Shottenheimer is named head coach I am out. If this is Jerry's move it says that he does not care about winning. I have suspected that for a long time. This would be my final straw.

About 5 years ago I stopped buying anything Cowboys and I refused to go to a game either at Jerry World or on the road. I was done giving the Jones family any of my hard-earned money. I have advised other Cowboys fans to do the same thing. Jerry only cares about two things; Jerry and money. He is a narcissist and a money grubber of the worst kind.

Shottenheimer is a person who got his job because of his father. He was so negatively regarded that McCarthy decided he would call plays instead of leaving that to his offensive coordinator. Shottenheimer has shown nothing to indicate that he is any more than a position coach. Making him the HC is expedient for Jerry. Shotty will not rock the boat, will let Jerry interfere in all decisions and most importantly won't cost Jerry money. My guess is that he would take less money than Big Mike. That will make Jerry a very happy guy.

The only thing wrong with this equation is that the team will not improve, the Cowboys will continue their mediocrity and the fan base, including me, will continue to be frustrated.

I have seen this movie before. It has repeated for 30 years. It is the same BS every year. I always joke about the Cowboys always winning the Super Bowl twice a year. Once, right after the draft and the other in training camp. In those two moments, Jerry is waxing his complete bull **** and we the fans somehow buy into it even as our minds know better. Jerry is the ultimate P.T. Barnum and I have been the ultimate sucker for now going on 3 decades. That will end immediately after the coronation of the next Head Coach Flunky. Fool me 30 times shame on me.

If this is the eventuality, I will watch the NFL with dispassion. I will not care who wins or who loses. The league has become a shadow of its former self. The league declared itself as "entertainment" to obtain a waiver from anti-trust regulation and with that declaration the honesty of the league came into serious question. Now that the league endorsed gambling and is profiting from the same, the credibility of the outcome of games, especially the big ones is seriously in question, at least with me. (See the last three SBs. In each, the team that won, was referee aided in their winning drive, not just once, but several times for infractions of the rules that no one else saw.

So it is all up to Jerry. Name Shotty as the next head coach and I am out of here. So, Jerry what is it going to be?
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Did you have faith that Jimmy Johnson was going to have success in Dallas?

See, that's where I learned my humility on head coaches.

Not only was I so very very confident that Buddy Ryan was right that college coaches in the NFL can never work... I was still very very confident of that 12 months in... for obvious reasons.

We don't know what we don't know.

And. Head coaches aren't the difference anyways. Talent is.

I'm not going away. I'm persuaded that no 80+ year-old owner is going to set himself up for disaster, and to the contrary, he's going to ultimately make the decision that is in his own best interests... and hiring a guy who isn't going to create marketing buzz, by the way, does nothing to substantiate the claim that Jerry's all about money. "Well, but it does... he's that adamant not to pay anyone top dollar." I disagree. He's persuaded (as I am) that the head coach isn't the tipping point hire. You need any of the pool of HC candidates who have the capacity to take a team to a Super Bowl... I mean, look at Cincinnati... you can try to sell me that Zac Taylor was critical to their getting to a Super Bowl, but you're going to fall short. He's good enough.
 
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For the next regime whoever the HC is Jeff Blasko RB coach had a runner almost 1100 yards nice progress in Rico Dowdle and Jeff Zgonina DL coach a unit that seemed to get better as the year progressed . Lawson Golston OSA Parsons Mazi seemed to improve over the rookie yr ….worth interviewing these 2 by the next HC
 
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I can relate. I grew up with 70's Landry Cowboys and its hard to relate to Jerry Jones' version of the team. There is less to admire and they are collectively a bunch of losers. I won't walk away b/c I know i'll outlive Jerry and i'm generally an optimist, but I don't get overly excited about wins and expect losses. Its an easy team to walk away from.
 
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I wouldn't hold it against anyone for jumping ship

I'm a fan of the players and organization, not the ownership.

I'ma hang on forever.
 
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