If the Broncos want Romo

KJJ

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The player we could get at 20 wouldn't be that much better than the one we can get at 28.

That trade isn't getting fair value for Romo.

That depends on how the draft falls, moving up 8 spots could land a very good player who was expected to go sooner. Moving up 8 spots is a pretty significant move. All it takes is one unexpected pick early in the draft to change everything. Once we get past the draft, it becomes more unlikely we're going to get anything for Romo in a trade. Once free agency starts teams will start addressing some holes and complete the process on draft day. Romo needs to be part of his new team as soon as possible to learn a new offense and get a feel for the players he'll be working with. For us to trade Romo it has to be a worthwhile trade for us to be willing to eat the entire $19.6M. If we release him we can spread that money out over 2 seasons.
 

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After giving up 3 picks including a #1 for Paxton Lynch last April, I have doubts Denver is going to want to trade for Romo which would put Lynch on the back burner for at least another year. With them having 2 young QBs that could create a sticky situation because they may have to part with one of those QBs if they bring Romo in. With Romo unable to stay healthy the past 2 seasons that makes it pretty tough to trade for him when Denver knows they have a good chance of landing him for nothing after he's released.
 

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There could be a player at #20 the Cowboys really like that would have little chance of lasting to #28. To move up 8 spots in the first round would take at least a 3rd round pick and I would take a 3rd round pick for Romo right now. Using Romo to improve our draft position that could possibly land us a solid player may be the only way of getting anything of value for him. If he's used to move up in the draft and it lands us a player who becomes a cornerstone for years to come, that would be a worthwhile trade.
 

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It helps with the trade.

How so?

None of his current contract is guaranteed and at $14 million for 2017 (19 mill for 2018), its a bargain if you believe he can still play

His "as is" contract is one of the reasons why a team would want to trade for him.
 

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The Bronco's strategy is to publicly be "uninterested" in Romo while privately wanting/needing him very much. I think they believe they can wait it out until the Cowboys finally release him. It's a gamble . Watch how fast they jump in the mix once it's announced that Romo has a tentative agreement with another team.
 

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Romo's age and injury history especially the past 2 seasons is going to scare teams from wanting to trade anything of value for him because you can't look past next season with him. He's not a QB you can look down the road with and build with. Any team that's at least a couple of years away isn't going to be interested in him and he's not going to be interested in that team.

Romo is one more "significant" injury away from having to retire because no one will want him if he only lasts a few games next season. If something else breaks on him, he's done. No team can go forward preparing a QB to be their starter who can't stay healthy. Romo has to think about his quality of life after football and he can't keep playing if he keeps being injured for weeks/months at a time.

Everyone knows he still has the ability but it's his HEALTH that scares everyone. The Cowboys were so terrified of another injury they only played him a series in the season finale and he had to talk the team into it. Anytime he takes a hit whoever signs him will be holding their breath.
 

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This is a big staring contest, which could be seen as a benefit to Dallas over other teams in some ways. The upper management of this team is impervious to public perception helping or hindering their job security. The only ones under the gun are coaches, and the current coach is as teflon as they've ever been with this ownership.

On the downside the Cowboys doing nothing creates continued cap pressure for the foreseeable future and has the ownership paying big money for a guy who never plays. From the other teams' perspectives Dallas has to offload Romo for these reasons and they're just waiting for his release. If the Cowboys were willing to anger Romo they could hold on out of spite and watch other management teams burn when their QBs turn out to be hot messes while a QB1 sits on the bench in Dallas. That doesn't sound like a professional organization though. At least to the management of this team IMO which is why I think he'll be released.

If Romo isn't traded the vengeful part of me wants to see him stay in Dallas and watch the Texans' and Bronchos' QBs crash and burn as their defenses play lights out and misses the playoffs.
 

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If the Broncos want Romo, the Cowboys need to have him redo his contract and trade pick 28 and Romo to Denver for pick 20. I can't see them releasing Romo when they can do this and how in the world is Houston not trying to get Romo? The Cowboys trading Romo to Denver seems to make sense and is the best fit for Romo.

I like the idea of swapping picks and have said as much previously. Have worked on mocks using the idea. It's been mentioned before by others, and would seemingly be one of the more viable trade scenarios. Value wise, the move up should equate to around a 3rd as others have mentioned. Wouldn't mind seeing the Cowboys try to recoup a 5th round pick in the deal as well...but would take the simple exchange of picks.
 

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That depends on how the draft falls, moving up 8 spots could land a very good player who was expected to go sooner. Moving up 8 spots is a pretty significant move. All it takes is one unexpected pick early in the draft to change everything. Once we get past the draft, it becomes more unlikely we're going to get anything for Romo in a trade. Once free agency starts teams will start addressing some holes and complete the process on draft day. Romo needs to be part of his new team as soon as possible to learn a new offense and get a feel for the players he'll be working with. For us to trade Romo it has to be a worthwhile trade for us to be willing to eat the entire $19.6M. If we release him we can spread that money out over 2 seasons.
Any qbs that go top 20 are not top 20 talents. This causes some more talented players to be available.
 

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After giving up 3 picks including a #1 for Paxton Lynch last April, I have doubts Denver is going to want to trade for Romo which would put Lynch on the back burner for at least another year. With them having 2 young QBs that could create a sticky situation because they may have to part with one of those QBs if they bring Romo in. With Romo unable to stay healthy the past 2 seasons that makes it pretty tough to trade for him when Denver knows they have a good chance of landing him for nothing after he's released.
Really? What is to stop Romo from signing with another team as a free agent? All Denver has to do is swap 1st round picks and they have him.
 

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Romo's age and injury history especially the past 2 seasons is going to scare teams from wanting to trade anything of value for him because you can't look past next season with him. He's not a QB you can look down the road with and build with. Any team that's at least a couple of years away isn't going to be interested in him and he's not going to be interested in that team.

Romo is one more "significant" injury away from having to retire because no one will want him if he only lasts a few games next season. If something else breaks on him, he's done. No team can go forward preparing a QB to be their starter who can't stay healthy. Romo has to think about his quality of life after football and he can't keep playing if he keeps being injured for weeks/months at a time.

Everyone knows he still has the ability but it's his HEALTH that scares everyone. The Cowboys were so terrified of another injury they only played him a series in the season finale and he had to talk the team into it. Anytime he takes a hit whoever signs him will be holding their breath.
The teams that want him, need him and there is more than one team. It doesn't scare Denver to trade picks with Dallas to get Tony Romo.
 

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Really? What is to stop Romo from signing with another team as a free agent? All Denver has to do is swap 1st round picks and they have him.

Romo can sign with any team that wants him as a free agent and with everyone knowing he'll be released at some point will keep most if not all teams from wanting to trade anything of value for him. I'm sure most if not all would be willing to part with a 6th or 7th rounder for him but that wouldn't benefit the Cowboys more than releasing him and being able to spread $19.6M over 2 seasons.

You make it sound simple but Denver being willing to fall 8 spots to acquire Romo isn't that easy of a decision when they have 2 young QBs they like. Adding Romo may cause them to have to release one of those young QBs. Adding Romo could have a negative affect down the road, losing one young QB and having the development of their other young QB stunted.
 

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Romo can sign with any team that wants him as a free agent and with everyone knowing he'll be released at some point will keep most if not all teams from wanting to trade anything of value for Romo. I'm sure most if not all would be willing to part with a 6th or 7th rounder for him but that wouldn't benefit the Cowboys more than releasing him and being able to spread $19.6M over 2 seasons.

You make it sound simple but Denver being willing to fall 8 spots to acquire Romo isn't that easy of a decision when they have 2 young QBs they like. Adding Romo may cause them to have to release one of those young QBs. Adding Romo could have a negative affect down the road, losing one young QB and having the development of their other young QB stunted.
So, what is going to happen? Tell us, everybody wants to know.
 

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The teams that want him, need him and there is more than one team. It doesn't scare Denver to trade picks with Dallas to get Tony Romo.

They traded 3 picks to acquire Paxton Lynch last April and making another trade to acquire Romo will stunt the development of Lynch who needs to start playing. Romo doesn't have much time left and one more "significant" injury will end his career which makes trading for him a real gamble.
 

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So, what is going to happen? Tell us, everybody wants to know.

I've already given my opinion as to what I think will and won't happen. Check my archives it's you that wants to know.
 

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They traded 3 picks to acquire Paxton Lynch last April and making another trade to acquire Romo will stunt the development of Lynch who needs to start playing. Romo doesn't have much time left and one more "significant" injury will end his career which makes trading for him a real gamble.
Flipping pick 20 for pick 28 and Romo is a gamble? Would it stunt Lynch like it stunted Prescott last year?
 
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