If the deflategate concludes without the Patriots returning the trophy

[DFWJC]

Too bad that the facts were reported, as I stated, early. The can't walk back those facts. None for the colts, 92% for the Patriots were under inflated. That's intentional.

Not if they all deflated some, but the balls originally inflated right at the lower limit (the pats) dropped below the limit, only "by a tick" as they recently said....while the other balls inflated normally (Colts) dropped, but were still legal. Only one ball is difficult to explain out of he bunch.

I'd prefer to let the investigation find out the truth if that is even possible.
If they are guilty, so be it.

 

[cowboyblue22]

its over there will be no further on this the league wants it to go away to it will.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

It's going to be hard to buy what the league says because of how they handled the evidence in the SpyGate case. There has never been a sufficient reason for destroying the evidence and nobody that has ever dealt with similar situations like that stood up and said 'yes, based on my expertise the league should have destroyed the evidence.' Instead, everybody stated that the cheating done by the Patriots must have been very bad and likely greater than we imagined if the league were to immediately destroy the evidence.

I think the league got themselves in this pickle because now the Patriots have shown that the potential reward for cheating far outweighs the punishment for getting caught. Other teams that do not have a shred of integrity and unscrupulous have no reason to not try and cheat because winning a Super Bowl far outweighs losing a 1st round draft pick.

The league also didn't do itself any favors by giving such a severe suspension to the Saints for BountyGate despite a complete lack of evidence. So now their punishments for cheating are inconsistent and the amount of evidence they use to determine cheating is inconsistent.

Roger the Rube talks a good game about 'protecting the shield', but he has done nothing but make the integrity of the shield look like a laughingstock.

With that being said, even I would not take away the Super Bowl from the Patriots if I were commissioner.

My recommendation is to finally nip this cheating in the bud.

Belichick = suspension for 1 year, $5 million fine (goes to charity and Robert Kraft cannot renew his contract for 5-years. If Kraft attempts to pay off that fine in 5 years, he will be suspended from the league ala Steinbrenner from MLB in 1990)

Brady = 4 game suspension for 2015. Will be treated like a PED case

Patriots = Lose their first 3 picks of the 2015 NFL draft

Patriots = $10 million fine

I'm not even sure that this is enough because the rewards of winning a Super Bowl are still greater than these monetary fines, suspensions and draft picks. But, hopefully it would send a message that the league is not in the Patriots or any other team's back pocket. And if you cheat in the actual game, there is great punishment for doing so. It may not outweigh winning a Super Bowl, but if you cheat and don't win the Super Bowl, then you'll wish you never did.






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[nathanlt]

its over there will be no further on this the league wants it to go away to it will.

Nope, I'm calling the NFL repeatedly on this, as a concerned fan, and I hope others will too.

1-212-450-2000

Cheating in the NFL affects cheating in all levels, high school and college. That's why drug use must be punished, to keep high schoolers from thinking its the only way to get into the NFL.

 

[DFWJC]

Nope, I'm calling the NFL repeatedly on this, as a concerned fan, and I hope others will too.

1-212-450-2000

Cheating in the NFL affects cheating in all levels, high school and college. That's why drug use must be punished, to keep high schoolers from thinking its the only way to get into the NFL.

Do you want them to investigate further? That's fair to ask.

Or have you already made up your mind that they are guilty of intentionally deflating balls below the lower limit and, based on your professional scientific assessment, want them prosecuted to the fullest?

It kind of sounds like door #2.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Sorry, but when comparing the Vikings' transgression to the Patriots' (alleged) transgression, then intended outcome has everything to do with it.

The "crimes" are virtually identical and (allegedly) committed for the exact same reason. The only difference is one team sucks and the other is the best in the league this year.

I never mentioned the Viqueens.

Oh here is a newsflash, regarding the whole "best in the league this year" the Seahags lost the Super Bowl the Pats didn't win it. Yes there is a difference.

 

[DFWJC]

I never mentioned the Viqueens.

Oh here is a newsflash, regarding the whole "best in the league this year" the Seahags lost the Super Bowl the Pats didn't win it. Yes there is a difference.

Green Bay lost the NFC Champ, the Seahawks didn't win it.
True?

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

Like I said... Show us all your posts talking about how much you hate the Vikes, Falcons, Jets or Browns.

Whoops..!! Looks like there aren't any..!!

wow what part of consistent REPEAT OFFENDERS don't you understand? Dense. It's beyond comical at this point. Just annoying really. Cliche comedy. You repeat the same tired comments over and over like you've never ready any points. I know you have you just don't have any good material any more. It makes you feel better to repeat yourself like a robot. hahaha

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

Of course it does. It has everything to do with the current "ordeal."

The "crimes" are virtually identical and (allegedly) committed for the exact same reason. The only difference is one team sucks and the other is the best in the league this year.

HERE IS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE...


REPEAT OFFENDERS.


one team makes a habit of bending the rules and getting caught. the other has one incident? maybe? not the same at all. if the vikes or any other team bent the rules as much as the pats than it would be the same. but nevermind you're not going to get this at all because you want to parrot your canned responses over and over like a Robot.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

Maybe because the topic is the Patriots?

cheatriots apologists i tell ya.

denial squad.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

cheatriots apologists i tell ya.

denial squad.

Huge Patriot fans for sure.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Green Bay lost the NFC Champ, the Seahawks didn't win it.
True?

Oh absolutely. I have some GB fans and they are still sick and feel they gave that game away. Which they did.

 

[Rogah]

I never mentioned the Viqueens.

Comparing the Vikes to the Patriots was the subject of the post to which you directly responding.

Oh here is a newsflash, regarding the whole "best in the league this year" the Seahags lost the Super Bowl the Pats didn't win it. Yes there is a difference.

Many of sports history's greatest championships came as a result of a blunder by the losing team. I don't know of a single example where the winners felt their loss was somehow diminished because the other team made a major blunder.

I don't know of any fan of the 1986 Mets who feels their championship is somehow worth less due to the fact that "the Red Sox lost it". The 1951 NL pennant ("The Giants win the pennant! The Giants win the pennant!") had one of the greatest managerial blunders of all time but 60 years later that game remains a classic.

 

[Rogah]

Green Bay lost the NFC Champ,

They also lost the divisional round game....

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Goodell punished (using the word lightly here) the Pats for spygate so they will get something.

I don't think they get anything.

They aren't going to do anything. The Pats are Goodell's favorite team.

I don't think they won't get anything due to favoritism.

its over there will be no further on this the league wants it to go away to it will.

This is why.



No penalty because they cannot prove ANYTHING. Whether we like it (we know Rogah loves it) or not!

 

[Rogah]

I don't think they get anything.

I don't think they won't get anything due to favoritism.

No penalty because they cannot prove ANYTHING. Whether we like it (we know Rogah loves it) or not!

Looks to me like an awful lot of people are coming to the realization that the Patriots did nothing wrong and they are laying the groundwork for some pre-emptive excuse making.

 

[Doomsay]

Looks to me like an awful lot of people are coming to the realization that the Patriots did nothing wrong and they are laying the groundwork for some pre-emptive excuse making.

Nah, the fact that a 5 day investigation is taking this long just reeks of NFL damage control for not having penalized your cheating team when they should have, nothing else. Your organization will never lose it's *.

 

[Rogah]

Nah, the fact that a 5 day investigation is taking this long just reeks of NFL damage control for not having penalized your cheating team when they should have, nothing else. Your organization will never lose it's *.

Please show me any sort of official record book, NFL book or league record with an asterisk anywhere.

Whoops! You can't..!!!

 

[Doomsay]

Please show me any sort of official record book, NFL book or league record with an asterisk anywhere.

Whoops! You can't..!!!

Envision a Sammy Sosa legacy. *

 

[Rogah]

Envision a Sammy Sosa legacy. *

Please show me any sort of official record book, NFL book or league record with an asterisk anywhere.

Whoops! You can't..!!!