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CATCH17

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Sure based on what?

The front office wanted to keep Murray he just wanted more money. FO was right.

And as for this draft we've been connected with each and every prospect. Apparently we like everyone the best. That is what counterintelligence does to confuse the opponent.

Unless they take Buckner then nobody is really confused as to who they would select.

The pick is Ramsey unless we trade out.
 

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Unless they take Buckner then nobody is really confused as to who they would select.

The pick is Ramsey unless we trade out.

You can repeat yourself all you like. I asked for basis.

They could just as easily take Bosa or anyone else.
 

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Do you guys really think this 'leak' of who likes what 2 weeks before the draft is actually valid?

They are basing it off comments from Broaddus and from Kevin Turner from 105 that have said they heard the scouts prefer Ramsey and the coaches love Zeke.

This is not concrete but is what these personalities say they are hearing at Valley Ranch or through back channels.

We have no way to know if it is true, front brain.
 

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They are basing it off comments from Broaddus and from Kevin Turner from 105 that have said they heard the scouts prefer Ramsey and the coaches love Zeke.

This is not concrete but is what these personalities say they are hearing at Valley Ranch or through back channels.

We have no way to know if it is true, front brain.

I'm not saying that it isn't being reported. I'm saying teams go out of there way with meetings informing their charges to not reveal this type of thing. When it starts coming out in volume like it has been in VR for the past two weeks my BS detector starts beeping.

I look at it from the vantage point of 'why would the Cowboys want other teams to believe this' on most of it.
 

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I'm not saying that it isn't being reported. I'm saying teams go out of there way with meetings informing their charges to not reveal this type of thing. When it starts coming out in volume like it has been in VR for the past two weeks my BS detector starts beeping.

I look at it from the vantage point of 'why would the Cowboys want other teams to believe this' on most of it.

I was just telling you where it came from, there is no way to verify the truthfulness of the assertion.
 

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Exactly.


I'd rather have Ramsey on our team and roll with Morris and McFadden them Elliot plus what is currently in our secondary.

Doesn't your position assume we're not going to take a DB in this draft? We can take Elliott and a corner in the second, third or fourth.
 

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If true and Scouts want Ramsey and Coaches want Elliott than which would you prefer ?

I'm leaning Elliott but want be sad with Ramsey just concerned over lack of Turnovers from him
and I think Elliott makes the bigger team impact !!! my opinion only.

Ramsey cant catch a cold in the Artic.............somebody used a "hands of stone" card on him and the effect never wore off.:laugh:


So my vote is for Zeke..........besides, with our Div 3 quality defense, we are going to need to score 40+ points a game to win anyways.
 

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You should always listen to your scouts over your coaches. Coaches shouldn't even be a factor on draft day. They don't know the players like the scouts do.

But if my scouts wanted Ramsey I'd fire my scouts.
 

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This draft is already over anyway. Wentz to the Eagles. That's game over. They have a future. We have jack squat.
 

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With Lamar Miller this would have been a very easy pick. I still would have go to Ramsey. Look I like Elliott, I just find it hard to justify drafting a RB given the resources currently allocated to that position.

There are no resources allocated to the position, that is the problem. Bargain basement vets are not resources.
 

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There are no resources allocated to the position, that is the problem. Bargain basement vets are not resources.

whatever. McFadden was statistically a top 5 rusher. Morris is a quality back to have as part of a rotation. And they resigned Dunbar. You can never have enough defensive backs, I can't say the same for running backs. But again, they could've signed Lamar Miller, shifted McFadden to RB2 and we wouldn't be having this discussion. You guys hate "bargain basement vets" and at the same time dont want to pony up and pay a young RB just entering his prime. Make up your mind.
 

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If true and Scouts want Ramsey and Coaches want Elliott than which would you prefer ?

I'm leaning Elliott but want be sad with Ramsey just concerned over lack of Turnovers from him
and I think Elliott makes the bigger team impact !!! my opinion only.

I'm on the same boat as you. The only reason I would lean towards Zeke a little bit more is just simply because we are in win now mode. But if we were to build, I would go with Ramsey
 

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Our o-line made McFadden, who's a middle of the road running back, fourth leading rusher in the NFL last year. Just imagine what they would do with an elite talent like Zeke Elliot?

Gawd almighty - (Jim Ross Voice)
 

SilverStarCowboy

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Ramsey could be a once in a lifetime player. Those who compare J. Ramsey to TNew and Mo are lost and spaced.
 

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This draft is already over anyway. Wentz to the Eagles. That's game over. They have a future. We have jack squat.

Weak as hell, man. Wentz is no longer an option, so you can remove yourself from his jock and get your priorities straight now.

Draft ain't close to being over and there's no guarantee Wentz becomes anything close to what you're hyping him to be.

They've gambled everything on Wentz, and I hope and believe it will backfire on them.
 

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This draft is already over anyway. Wentz to the Eagles. That's game over. They have a future. We have jack squat.

I'm going to enjoy watching Wentz over the years given your whining.

If/when he doesn't work out relative to his cost. .. You'll never live this down.

I saw he was number 1 on your board. Good luck with that.

These throwers are mediocre.
 
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