If Ware ends up with 5 sacks?

[Cowboy4ever]

When figuring out "productive" Ware is being, don't forget, he isn't just rushing the QB. He is dropping in Pass coverage too. He is not Haley, who could just come off the corner without any other responsibilities. I agree, I dont think his pass rush as been very impressive so far, but alot of that is lack of creativity from the DC.

 

[Chuck 54]

Is that a downer? Bust? Expected? Good?

I expected more but thats what he is on pace for so far......

I don't care if he ever gets a sack...I want to see him pressuring the QB on a consistant basis and forcing quick throws or blocking adjustments.

He could get 16 sacks (1 per game), but if he has little impact on most of the passing plays, it's pretty worthless. I want to see consistant pressure like the great ones bring...the sacks will take care of themselves.

 

[roughneck266]

If he ends up with five sacks you can bet that everyone else is gonna have a lot more than normal. Just means quarterbacks are running for their lives in the opposite direction.

 

[ThEpLyMaKeR88]

he must get at least 7 to get in my book as a good pass rusher

 

[Sarge]

Sacks don't tell and won't tell the entire story. As long as Ware gets constant pressure (hurries) on the QB, I'll be happy.

QB hurries on a regular basis is a seriously underrated stat. It allows for others to obtain sacks and it allows for INT's. The less time you have to throw, the better from a defensive standpoint.

You can't judge Ware on sacks alone. They won't (hopefully) tell the whole story.

We'll see. I personally think he'll end up w/more than 5.

 

[dbair1967]

what if he only gets 5 sacks this yr, and all the fickle dopes declare him a bust, then he turns around and gets 15 sacks next yr?

considering nobody ever runs up high sacks totals in a Zimmer coached defense, I wont be surprised he only gets 5 or 6 sacks...but it doesnt mean he's a bust, especially after only one freaking season

David

 

[irishwaste]

Jeez, poor guy is only a rookie and people are talking about being upset with him if he dosent have double digit sack totals. As long as creates pressure and frees up guys like La'roi and Ellis, I think he's well worth it.

 

[Juke99]

Sacks don't tell and won't tell the entire story. As long as Ware gets constant pressure (hurries) on the QB, I'll be happy.

QB hurries on a regular basis is a seriously underrated stat. It allows for others to obtain sacks and it allows for INT's. The less time you have to throw, the better from a defensive standpoint.

You can't judge Ware on sacks alone. They won't (hopefully) tell the whole story.

We'll see. I personally think he'll end up w/more than 5.

:signmast: what he said.

Fact of the matter is, if you look at the sack totals for Charles Haley during his stint as a Cowboy, they aren't great. BUT he constantly applied pressure and had to be accounted for on every play.

If Ware develops an inside pass rush, I'll be thrilled. Right now, he's very much one dimensional in his pass rushing technique.

 

[Jarv]

Info from...

http://www.theboys.com/archives.asp

Charles Haley in 93 got...

6 sacks

94=12.5
95=10.5
96=1

Over 4 years averaged 7.5 sacks a year.

Haley is considered a sack master at 7.5 a year for us.

It was the pressure he created that made others around him better.

Ware is already doing the same.

Would I want more than 5 sacks from him ? Yes.

If the team ends up with 48 sacks this year...and Ware only got 5, I would be more than happy.

Did we win the SB in 93 with Haley getting only 6 sacks...yes. Thats all I look for.

 

[canters]

he will have more than 5 sacks.period

My guess is 7-9 sacks

 

[Nors]

8-10 sacks is my expectation.

He is not creating as much pressure as expected. Long season.

 

[31WillHammerU]

8-10 sacks is my expectation.

He is not creating as much pressure as expected. Long season.

I see where you are going with this one Nors. Ware was drafted to be a Catalytic difference maker. He isn't there yet, but I think he will be by the end of the season.

Double digit sacks for him would boost him to the catalytic level.

 

[Eddie]

10 sacks is less than 1 a game. I'd rather him have NO sacks, apply constant pressure on the QB, stuff the run, and play lights out for 60 defensive snaps ... than to have 1 highlight reel per game.

 

[jay cee]

"On pace for" is the most useless stat ever.

On day 1 of the current baseball season Dmitri Young hit 3 home runs for the Detroit Tigers. He was "on pace for" 486 home runs this year.

I'll worry about Ware if the season is nearing an end and he hasn't impressed.

I will be happy if he ends with 5 sacks and continues to put pressure on the qb and force him into other players, like he has done once or twice.

I'm already impressed with his play as a rookie 3 games into his career. I see the potential, and I don't see any reason why he should not continue to improve throughout this season and the coming years.

Some of these guys put such high expectations on players, then get angry when they don't meet those expectations.

 

[goshan]

'On Pace For' isn't useless after enough games have been played.
It is an indicator of how individuals or teams are performing so far and allows you to compare their performance to numbers that you are familar with.

Lets see where Ware is after 6-7 games.

 

[Doomsday101]

Is that a downer? Bust? Expected? Good?

I expected more but thats what he is on pace for so far......

I think it would be disappointing for him, myself I realize he is a young player being asked to do things he did not do in college and is being overloaded mentally right now. I do think that will change as he gets more playing time

 

[joseephuss]

'On Pace For' isn't useless after enough games have been played.
It is an indicator of how individuals or teams are performing so far and allows you to compare their performance to numbers that you are familar with.

Lets see where Ware is after 6-7 games.

Let him get through the first half of the season. I like where the Cowboy's bye week is this season. Eight games, bye and then 8 more games. I think having that break will help the developmen of Ware and the entire defense. Things could look much different the second half of the season.

 

[wileedog]

THis year my expectations of him considering where he's coming from and his position switch aren't too grandiose - I'd pretty much settle for becoming more consistent in run support, continuing his progress in pass coverage, and learning some better inside or counter-moves. I expect to see some pressure as he gets more comfortable and the coaches can start moving him around more, but 5 sacks with good pressures would be fine with me.

Honestly, by the end of the season I wouldn't be surprised if Burnett, Spears and Canty are making more of an impact than he does this year.

Next year, with a full offseason in the conditioning programming and a whole let less to learn and assimilate are when my expectations for Ware rise a whole lot.....

 

[Canadian BoyzFan]

Ware will not be a bust.........1,2,5,10, 11 sack it doesn't matter...he will not be a bust

Totally agree. This kid will be great.

 

[Alexander]

I am sure if he ends up getting five sacks, he will be labelled a bust by every knee jerk artist out there.

Five sacks from a player new to the position is not bad at all.