If we could trade for Aaron Donald , Earl thomas or Rob gronkowski who would you pick and for what

[visionary]

With Donald you stand a legitimate chance of winning it all with a bus driver. He makes your D dominant. You’re adding that to a dominant run game. It’s the formula used by the ‘90 Giants, the ‘00 Ravens, the ‘02 Bucs, etc. That puts less pressure on needing a 1 to find your starting QB.

Can't agree with this at all
Esp given the very real concerns around Dak

 

[xwalker]

Gronkowski is 29 but injury prone but he's a tightend who could block and be great in the red zone. Earl thomas.... Well we've talked a ton about him he is 29 and going strong.even though he's been injured more in recent years. Aaron Donald would require giving up a food 2 first round picks but he is 26 and he would put our defense in another universe. He is a three tech and arguably the best in the game today. Him Dlaw and say Gregory would be menacing. Which one would you choose why and for how much

A 5th for Earl Thomas. Maybe 4th if he'll sign a somewhat reasonable contract.

You don't build teams under the current CBA by trading away two 1st round picks AND paying that player huge money. The only exception would be an elite QB like Aaron Rodgers but teams don't trade those players away. Good QBs rarely if ever hit free agency. Elite players at all other positions do become available. Not every position every year, but they do become available.

Let's pretend that Fletcher Cox was a free agent this offseason. The Cowboys outbid the Eagles and pay him 20M per season.

The Commanders trade two 1st round picks. Let's say that despite being the higher rated player, that Donald signs for the same 20M per just to make the trade happen.

Was the difference between Donald and Cox equal to the two 1st round picks?

How much is it worth to get Donald instead of Cox?

I would not give up one 1st round pick to upgrade from Cox to Donald.

 

[davidariust24]

Donald is the best defensive player in the league , but the price is too steep for Dallas. They cant afford to give up 2 firsts with so many holes to fill.

The only holes or so called holes are DT and safety and a primetime pass catcher which I think Gallup will become and maybe/hopefully gathers after another year.

 

[davidariust24]

donald is nice but irving offers a good % of what he offers for 2018.
so the price in $ and picks is not worth it.

dont trust gronk's body

et - depends on pick and salary.

out of the 3, would say et - but not willing to give a 2nd for him.

Good point but Donald doesn't get suspended or come out of shape

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Can't agree with this at all
Esp given the very real concerns around Dak

Yeah. I guess we have different views on the absolute need for a franchise QB. History has shown repeatedly that you don’t need one (a bus driver will do) if you have a dominant D and a dominant run game.

I’d have thought that the concerns about Dak surround whether he can be a franchise QB, not whether he can be a bus driver. But even supposing he can’t (which seems far fetched) it shouldn’t cost a 1st to get us another guy to drive the bus.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Aaron Donald, but I fear we wouldn't make that deal as long as we have Marinara running things. The guy is enamored with projects.

 

[CPanther95]

The only holes or so called holes are DT and safety and a primetime pass catcher which I think Gallup will become and maybe/hopefully gathers after another year.

Safety, TE, 2 WRs - plus unknown situations with your LBs and DBs. Not to mention, you'd be going all in on Dak and if he turns out to not be the QB to move forward with, you have no draft capital to replace him. By the time you can take advantage of Donald, the OL will have holes and Zeke's window will be closing.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

A 5th for Earl Thomas. Maybe 4th if he'll sign a somewhat reasonable contract.

You don't build teams under the current CBA by trading away two 1st round picks AND paying that player huge money. The only exception would be an elite QB like Aaron Rodgers but teams don't trade those players away. Good QBs rarely if ever hit free agency. Elite players at all other positions do become available. Not every position every year, but they do become available.

Let's pretend that Fletcher Cox was a free agent this offseason. The Cowboys outbid the Eagles and pay him 20M per season.

The Commanders trade two 1st round picks. Let's say that despite being the higher rated player, that Donald signs for the same 20M per just to make the trade happen.

Was the difference between Donald and Cox equal to the two 1st round picks?

How much is it worth to get Donald instead of Cox?

I would not give up one 1st round pick to upgrade from Cox to Donald.

Except Cox never hits FA. He gets franchised. So he costs you the same 2 firsts. Plus the same contract.

We’re talking about a likely HOF player here. A guy whose addition probably means the Rams are getting late first round picks. His value surely exceeds the combined value of Taco and Byron, for example.

 

[408Cowboy]

If you can get a top 5 QB in his prime, yes, you would give up 2 firsts and you'd be a terrible owner if you didn't.

If you already have a solid team and a franchise QB and had a chance to get a superstar DT in his prime, you should give up 2 firsts to help put your team over the top.

I wouldn't give up 2 firsts for Donald mainly because we may not be set at QB. I'd rather have first round picks to be able to get our franchise guy at QB than getting a superstar DT.

In those situations sure. But we're not there.

 

[waldoputty]

Good point but Donald doesn't get suspended or come out of shape

yea, but we dont need him that badly in the 1st half of regular season.
for the difference in pick value and $, irving is a much better value for 2018

 

[HardHittin'Witten]

Donald and it's not close for me. I'd trade Coakley, Matt Johnson, and a 1st.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Gronkowski is 29 but injury prone but he's a tightend who could block and be great in the red zone. Earl thomas.... Well we've talked a ton about him he is 29 and going strong.even though he's been injured more in recent years. Aaron Donald would require giving up a food 2 first round picks but he is 26 and he would put our defense in another universe. He is a three tech and arguably the best in the game today. Him Dlaw and say Gregory would be menacing. Which one would you choose why and for how much

Donald point blank!

 

[Bigdog]

Is this a trick question? Donald and it is not even close. He is a game changer.

 

[CATCH17]

The Donald.

 

[Bowdown27]

Donald and it’s not close.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

donald is nice but irving offers a good % of what he offers for 2018.
so the price in $ and picks is not worth it.

dont trust gronk's body

et - depends on pick and salary.

out of the 3, would say et - but not willing to give a 2nd for him.

Irving can't even stay on the field due to suspensions. He isn't a guy we can rely on

 

[xwalker]

Except Cox never hits FA. He gets franchised. So he costs you the same 2 firsts. Plus the same contract.

We’re talking about a likely HOF player here. A guy whose addition probably means the Rams are getting late first round picks. His value surely exceeds the combined value of Taco and Byron, for example.

It's an example. Elite players hit free agancy.

I never really know if people just refuse to understand a very simple concept such as the fact Cox was an example or if people are really just too dumb to comprehend.

Suh departed Detroit as a free agent in his prime.

Revis ended up on the Patriots at one point.

The 2nd best OG in the NFL changed teams this offseason.

A top 5 or better OG, DE and CB changed teams last year.

If you expand to top 10 players then the list gets fairly big.

 

[kskboys]

Seriously, Donald and it's not even remotely close.

 

[kskboys]

I would legit give up two first for Donald today without batting an eye.

Yup, and he's one of the very very few players I'd do that for.

 

[kskboys]

Does he put us in the superbowl this year? I doubt it.

He might.