If we got a 1st and a 3rd for Pickens

Their passing game was atrocious. What were you watching my friend?
They use the running game to try and open up the passing game. That’s why Brown was upset all season.
Which is totally inconsequential to the point, since they didn't win the Super Bowl this year.
 
Would the offense be better or worse if we used the 1st from Pickens to draft a top Left Tackle and a 3rd on the best available WR?

Then we could still use our other 2 first on defense.
No one is going to drop a 1st on Pickens for the same exact reason Jerry isn't giving him a long term contract.
He's has to prove he can consistently produce 1k yards receiving without flaking out!
 
I dont get the obsession with draft picks. We would have to use the first to replace Pickens and there is low likelihood we get anywhere near his perf from a rookie. An extra 3rd isnt worth it.
 
Would like to see a chart of the people wanting to trade/keep Pickens and the people who were happy with the trade of Parsons.

See a lot of "why swap proven talent with picks" with the talk of trading Pickens, but saw a lot of people cheering the trade of "proven" Parsons for 2 first and an average DT.

Will we need to see Pickens lie on a trainers table to flip the script? lol

For the record, I don't care if they re-sign him or trade him. Fine with either.
Think this team needs more work before 2 WR's can be the difference maker in the playoffs.
 
I dont get the obsession with draft picks. We would have to use the first to replace Pickens and there is low likelihood we get anywhere near his perf from a rookie. An extra 3rd isnt worth it.
You wouldn't get the compensation this year anyway. Highly unlikely he will sign the tag before the draft. So you are basically going into the season with Lamb and Flournoy, even if you can trade him after the draft. That...is...dicey. I suppose you use the pick to poach a WR from another team but that's also dicey...depending on the player you choose...or the ones that might be available.
 
Moot point.

Not only will we not get a 1st and 3rd ...but we won't get a single 1st at all.

Waddle is not same situation as Pickens.
.different player. Different contract. Different human being. Different reputation

Zaney Zoner Logic is so basic in its way of thinking: whichever WR during the offseason got the highest trade yield, MUST be the baseline for what WE will get....despite history proving the opposite over and over and over again.

The Zaney Zoners were yapping about us getting a 1st round pick for our kicker with The Yips too. LOL

Save the replies telling me we WILL get a 1st...because <insert whatever whacky logic you have>. Just watch. See that it won't happen....and try to learn from what you see actually occur, so that next offseason you'll make more educated statements.
 
Would the offense be better or worse if we used the 1st from Pickens to draft a top Left Tackle and a 3rd on the best available WR?

Then we could still use our other 2 first on defense.
There is nothing wrong with our left tackle if he can stay healthy. We fell apart over there when Guyton was out. Steele did not have a great first year in the offense, but he did not stop us from being one of the top offenses.
 
Would like to see a chart of the people wanting to trade/keep Pickens and the people who were happy with the trade of Parsons.

See a lot of "why swap proven talent with picks" with the talk of trading Pickens, but saw a lot of people cheering the trade of "proven" Parsons for 2 first and an average DT.

Will we need to see Pickens lie on a trainers table to flip the script? lol

For the record, I don't care if they re-sign him or trade him. Fine with either.
Think this team needs more work before 2 WR's can be the difference maker in the playoffs.
I wouldn't exactly call Kenny Clark average. Williams is a stud. Clark's PFF was 68 for 2025. Not stellar but more than solid...he's a little less in the run vs. the pass rush. But we still don't know what he can be with a proper off-season in a different scheme.
 
I would go the other way. Draft a top wr and then the best tackle prospect available in the 3rd
 
Would the offense be better or worse if we used the 1st from Pickens to draft a top Left Tackle and a 3rd on the best available WR?

Then we could still use our other 2 first on defense.
No, not likely but you would also have $30M plus per year to throw around as well. If this was the plan, I suspect it would have happened before free agency as the team seems hell bent on telling everyone who will listen how many players they are going to sign this year. Personally, I'm still waiting...
 
Would the offense be better or worse if we used the 1st from Pickens to draft a top Left Tackle and a 3rd on the best available WR?

Then we could still use our other 2 first on defense.
Do you want a good offense this year or no? A 3rd is not replacing Pickens unless they get super lucky. How did it work out for Tennessee when they traded AJ Brown for a first? Our QB is not elite. He needs all the help he can get.
 
Do you want a good offense this year or no? A 3rd is not replacing Pickens unless they get super lucky. How did it work out for Tennessee when they traded AJ Brown for a first? Our QB is not elite. He needs all the help he can get.
Our defense was nearly last in the NFL in 2025. But I do agree our QB is not elite.
 
When? The last time we played football we won 7 games with the worst defense in the league.

Everything else is just conjecture.
he didn't comment on results, just philosophy. and he's right.
 
he didn't comment on results, just philosophy. and he's right.
It has not been proven that the philosophy has changed ........ this is probably just Jerry's nonsense trying something new for one season.

He has done that before.

You guys fall for this crap every few years.
 
It has not been proven that the philosophy has changed ........ this is probably just Jerry's nonsense trying something new for one season.

He has done that before.

You guys fall for this crap every few years.
it has. they traded an edge for an DT, they traded a first for another DT, they paid big money for an in house DT. That's a philosophy change. There's nothing to fall for, it's just a fact. If it yields results is something else entirely, but the philosophy and make up of the D is changed.
 
If Waddle nets a 1st and 3rd, Pickens, at a minimum gets you a 1st and 2nd.

If this was going down with, let's say, NE, I'd want their late 1st this year and next year's, while sending back a 3rd next year. I could see the Patriots wanting to adding a young WR with Maye.
Yes, you'd have to replace Pickens with a pick, but having #12, 20 and 31 really opens up your board and keeps you from reaching. If you get wiped out on defense in the top 11 picks, then a top WR should still be sitting there at 12. Then you can get Edge/CB at 20 and LB at 30 (which wouldn't be as much of a reach as at 20.
 
Would the offense be better or worse if we used the 1st from Pickens to draft a top Left Tackle and a 3rd on the best available WR?

Then we could still use our other 2 first on defense.
We are using our 1st. 2pic on defense either way surely
 
it has. they traded an edge for an DT, they traded a first for another DT, they paid big money for an in house DT. That's a philosophy change. There's nothing to fall for, it's just a fact. If it yields results is something else entirely, but the philosophy and make up of the D is changed.
You must not remember them spending a first round on a useless DT 3 years ago and signing 3rd round Osa Odighizuwa to an 80 million Dollar contract just last year.

Jerry does crap on a whim ........ its not a philosophy change.
 
Odds are higher that we whiff on those two picks or get one mid player out of two picks than us actually getting better now or in the future.
In other words, super high likelihood that Pickens is way better than any player/s we would get with those picks.
 

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