If you could have one current head coach

Alexander

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LOL. Some good replies in this thread.

Pretty funny to suggest that somehow because of Jerry, a poor coach is better for us than a good coach.

Well, there is the very high tolerance for ambiguity to consider.
 

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I think a factor has to be, who gets along with Rod Marinelli. This is the 2nd year of going back to Tampa 2, 4-3. JJ is going to want to keep Marinelli since they just spent this FA period and draft to put pieces together to make it work. Regardless of what happens to JG, Rod will be back.

You've also gotta wonder about the chances of Marinelli being promoted to HC if Garrett gets the axe. Marinelli could possibly co-exist with Jerry (although it's questionable) but then, a DC would have to be hired to replace Rod. It's a sticky wicket, no? OTOH, is there a possibility Linehan might be considered? Think about that, folks.
 

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You've also gotta wonder about the chances of Marinelli being promoted to HC if Garrett gets the axe.

That would be a huge mistake. An 0-16 season should be enough to suggest he is better as a coordinator than a head coach.
 

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That would be a huge mistake. An 0-16 season should be enough to suggest he is better as a coordinator than a head coach.

LOL -- point well taken -- and then there's that! So, what about Linehan? It's not like the options are likely to be boundless.
 

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I don't think they gloss over anything. Why do you say they do? I'm as big a Garrett homer as there is, and while the game management issue is overblown, I've freely admitted a number of times that it's an obvious weakness of his. I don't see what's so wrong in saying so.

It's also an issue that's not exposed if we add the necessary talent on defense we desperately need. And it can be mitigated at the coordinator level. And he can improve.

It's a liability, and an unfortunate one, but it's not a fatal flaw. There are a lot of good coaches who win in this league without dominating an opponent on game day.

Unfortunately, Garrett has proven his gift of mismanagement is a fatal flaw, as it costs us multiple games on a yearly basis. He should have been fired a long time ago, the kinds of mistakes he has made are ludicrous. Incompetent coaching isn't supposed to be something a team has to overcome.
 

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LOL -- point well taken -- and then there's that! So, what about Linehan? It's not like the options are likely to be boundless.

I do not think he would go with anyone on the current staff.

If he does the painful act of firing his handpicked trainee, he will go the opposite direction. That is usually what he has done.
 

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To piggy back off of the If you could trade for one player thread, if you could have any of the other 31 head coaches to replace Carrot top, who would you pick? I am going with Jim Harbaugh.

Yet another bash Garrett thread. So unimaginative.
 

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Sean Payton with or without Jeremiah.

He knows how to win with our old coaches and players, which we couldn't.

He's also the guy that wanted Romo when he was here and when he left to NWO.

That tells me something.

I think Belicheat would be a great addition, for 2 reasons, he knows how to win games. Somehow made the playoffs last year with no offensive weapons minus Brady of course, and because if he got caught cheating again, Jerry would have a reason to be in the spotlight. We all know how much he loves that
 

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For those that say Garrett (even with the ability to choose any current coach)...

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I do not think he would go with anyone on the current staff.

If he does the painful act of firing his handpicked trainee, he will go the opposite direction. That is usually what he has done.

Therein lies a considerably scary scenario. Making decisions concerning HCs from outside sources surely hasn't been Jerry's forte. It seems to me like someone he's very familiar with and knows they're compatible would be the safest bet.
 

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Belichick would win 11-12 games a year with this same roster. I think he is in a class by himself. I think jim Harbaugh 2nd.

Then why was Belichick so pathetic in Cleveland?
 

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Then why was Belichick so pathetic in Cleveland?

He was a rookie HC and had a lot to learn...and most importantly he was in Cleveland...nobody really wins in Cleveland.

That excuse might have worked years ago...not so much now.
 

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Then why was Belichick so pathetic in Cleveland?

Those Browns teams were absolutely terrible. You couldn't turn a team around overnight during the pre-salary cap era like you can in today's league.

Belicheck still had an 11-5 season there btw, with a playoff win.
 

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Then why was Belichick so pathetic in Cleveland?

How was he pathetic in Cleveland? He made the playoffs with an 11-5 record in 1995 and his final year was destroyed by the move to Baltimore being announced at the midpoint of the season and the Browns in first place.
 

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He's really not. Harbaugh with this team over this run would very likely be getting a similar treatment from our fans. Perhaps he'd have fared better defensively, but I have a hard time imagining that given that our players who were inherited underperformed their contracts on that side of the ball due to either age or injury fairly significantly the last two seasons. Our fans won't look past the lack of playoffs.

That said, Harbaugh and Kelly would be my two favorite coaches on the market for a generic franchise. For the Cowboys with Jerry, it's a lot tougher. Garrett's a good temperament fit. It's not easy coming up with personalities that wouldn't conflict here. Sean Payton might work, since we know him. I think Zimmer's going to be a pretty good coach in Minny, and he'd work here. John Fox, maybe?

Conflict's not all that bad, sometimes going with the flow can be.
 

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Unfortunately, Garrett has proven his gift of mismanagement is a fatal flaw, as it costs us multiple games on a yearly basis. He should have been fired a long time ago, the kinds of mistakes he has made are ludicrous. Incompetent coaching isn't supposed to be something a team has to overcome.

I don't think it is. And at best, it's contributed to some losses and not caused them.

Even then, a lot if that speculation is just regular old second guessing of play calls that happens to every single losing head coach ever. It's the exact same thing you see with the harsh criticism of Romo, and not an actual reflection on Garrett's coaching ability.
 

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He was a rookie HC and had a lot to learn...and most importantly he was in Cleveland...nobody really wins in Cleveland.

That excuse might have worked years ago...not so much now.

I'm quite positive that pretty much any coach in the league could have reasonable success with Tom Brady or Peyton Manning at quarterback.
 

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Conflict's not all that bad, sometimes going with the flow can be.

No doubt. There's a ton of conflict in Harbaugh's current situation that nobody's talking much about. Though it would be an epic story under Jerry Jones in Dallas.
 

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I'm quite positive that pretty much any coach in the league could have reasonable success with Tom Brady or Peyton Manning at quarterback.

Keep on denying how good of a coach is or belittling the guy if you want to do so for some weird reason. Keep on that silly train if it makes you feel good.
 

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How was he pathetic in Cleveland? He made the playoffs with an 11-5 record in 1995 and his final year was destroyed by the move to Baltimore being announced at the midpoint of the season and the Browns in first place.

And he wasn't as successful as Garrett up until that point.

My point is, the league is full of mediocre coaches that win. Mike Tomlin is a joke, and his teams have won. Pete Carroll never won anything until he started cheating at USC. You really think Mike McCarthy is anything special? What about Mike Ditka, who was pretty much a cutout cartoon character on the sideline who did almost nothing? Look at Shanahan since Elway retired.

In fact, some of the best coaches are the least successful. Circumstances dictate a lot. Tom Landry struggled for years before Meredith and Staubach arrived.
 
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