I'll Say It For a Few of Us

[Bob Sacamano]

I totally agree. Jerry Jones now knows what he wants in a head coach

and that could possibly spell the end for Parcell at the end of this year.

He is in no way untouchable. I hope he takes his Jersey=butt the hell

out of Dallas. again just my opinion

who do you have in mind that Jerry should hire once he cans Parcells at the end of the year

I swear, you guys take Parcells for granted, is he perfect? hell no, but he doesn't have many faults like say...Dave Campo

 

[Bob Sacamano]

We have adopted the win now philosophy and time is running out so........we will not see a young QB in the game anytime soon..

so starting all these rookies is a "win-now" philosophy?

c'mon man, think

 

[Bob Sacamano]

you either load up to win now (as we're doing) or you load up for the long haul (as we're not doing).

we're not loading up for the long-haul, then why are all these rookies, and youngsters playing prominent roles?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Henson is not the answer and nor is Romo.

We could have had the answer sitting behind Aikman but instead waited till aikman got hurt and then drafted QC..then we got Hutch, then Henson.

We have wasted time on trying to pay for a single and hoping to hit a home run.

Bill has and would play a Rookie QB if he felt they were worthy...people seem to forget that he started Bledsoe as a rook.

This all goes back to Jerry Jones no matter how you slice it.

was Tom Brady not a single? he was a 6th round pick and until he went in for Bledsoe, was sitting on the bench too

 

[rcaldw]

Sorry, repost because Summerisfunner went crazy , and I'm afraid no one will see it.


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Originally Posted by ctalker
Agreed that Henson should of got some playing time last year and they shouldn't have messed with his mechanics. Glad to hear they are having him go back to his old throwing motion, which is the same as admiting they made a mistake.




I've not heard this. Where did you see or hear that they changed his motion back? Anyone else read or heard this?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What indication has Henson shown that says he's a blue chip QB. He looked lost last year against the bears and was afwul in preseason this year. And i like Henson alot, but i'm not blinded from the reality that he not ready to play.

Eli Manning looked lost last year, but he had a few games to find his way...and he came straight from college

why do people still believe that Henson is ready to see the field? and no, I'm not disagreeing with those who say he may never be ready, because that could be just the case, but on the otherhand, noone can strongly disagree that he will

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He is tapped out.

and you know this because...

why is Henson still on the team? it can't be because of his contract, what is it then?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Agree totally, Herms... But I'm curious, what makes you think Henson is still the one in Parcells' eyes?

maybe because he's still with the team

 

[Bob Sacamano]

It was not at some point...it was from the get go...and the idea that he was a top pick further speaks of what I am saying.

He did not get a guy at a yard sale like QC, Hutch, Romo and Henson.

how is that part of what you're saying about Henson being tapped out?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Cmon, at least be fair with your evaluation. We all know that Bill wasn't on his last leg when he started Bledsoe. Parcells knows that he can start rookies at other positions and it doesn't drag a team down like it does to play a rookie at QB. Even when you win with a rookie (or 2nd or 3rd year) player at QB it is a difficult task with lots of ups and downs.

I happen to think that Chris Simms is talented, but even in his 3rd year Gruden is playing it very close to the vest with Simms under center.

All this talk about what Henson can or can't do is what is silly. The guy WAS blue chip prospect out of high school, AND while he was in College. That isn't the opinion of a few fans with "man love" or whatever you call it, that was the opinion of pro football scouts. HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU GET A 3RD ROUND PICK FOR A GUY OUT OF FOOTBALL FOR 4 YEARS IF HE WASN'T A BLUE CHIP PROSPECT?????

And don't say Jerry Jones because Jones wasn't alone in the bidding department.

Ron Wolf, for one, thought very highly of Henson.

We aren't dreaming this up. And I don't care what anyone on this board says, Drew Henson was never given the kind of chance that a lot of these young guys are given. Even right now I'm watching the lowly Brooks Bolinger playing for the Jets. He is no blue chip prospect, but even HE looks better the more he plays.

So we can have this discussion all day, but what it comes down to is a lot of you are into being competitive, and respectable. I want us to take the approach that we are going to build with our own guys and aim for long term success.

I still think Henson can play. I don't care if I'm in the minority on that or not.

Where I'll agree is this. The longer he sits the less chance there is that he will amount to anything because the age clock is ticking.

*BANG* murder she wrote

cheers

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't support Henson, I just don't support Bledsoe. Look, don't blame Bledsoe. He is doing the best he can for a player of his age. And it's not we have talent and depth at wide receiver either. However, all of us knew Bledsoe wasn't the answer. Yes, that's a bold assertion but I don't think anyone in here truly trusted Drew Bledsoe. I know a lot of us are "glass is half full people" and others just wanted to support Parcells but no one here can say that they knew without a doubt that Bledsoe was the answer. Cmon guys, he was an aging QB with no mobility who doesn't have an star studded roster of wide receivers.

I don't know that Henson is the answer and I'm not going to act like he is the one ready to take this team to the next level. But why not try? If you took the effort to acquire him then why not play him and develop him? That was my issue with Parcells. If you have a guy like Henson on the roster then we could have started the second half of last season and this season to determine if we have someone who is capable of leading this team. Now, we are going to have to start over unless Bledsoe plays considerably better the rest of this season.

33 years old, isn't aging by QB standards

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Im trying to understand, really. What benefit would there be to playing young QBs on this team? We hant been good on the ground game and we sure arent supplying the blocking needed to throw.
I mean do we want to develop a qb or have a Carr, Harrington or the most shell shocked QB in the history of the game Ramsey?

I know no team is perfect for a young QB but our offense isnt even close to it.

Im really trying to understand not argue or be hard headed.

that's actually a very good question

 

[Doomsday]

Do you all close your eyes everytime Henson comes in the game or what? The guy sucks there is reason he is third string behind a YOUNGER QB.

 

[Cbz40]

so starting all these rookies is a "win-now" philosophy?

c'mon man, think

Maybe you are the one that needs to think......The thread is about the QB position.

 

[TunaFan33]

You know Jimmy, this is what really irks me about Parcells ruin the QB BS.

Lovie Smith or Bill Parcells? Who has more skins on the wall? Who would you think could have a greater impact on a rookie's development?

Parcells, and a few posters, act like a QB can't be developed early. Yet every year that just isn't the case.

Now, I'm not saying Drew Henson has earned the job, but he certainly deserved a Head Coach who was at least willing to give him a shot last year when we had the opportunity.

He blew it. Period.

Drew Henson sux, period. Why Jerry threw away a 3rd rounder for this piece of trash is anyone's guess.

BTW-did you watch the Raiders game last night? Bad news is that Norv Turner may be the captain of this ship next year.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Nice post! I feel better reading it.....some valid points.

 

[Aikmaniac]

I'd take Drew Brees in a heartbeat. He'd feel right at home with Witten at TE and Julius/Barber out of the backfield. He has the right amount of mobility to avoid a rush and the smarts to either throw the ball away or take a sack. He also has the intangible impromptu ability to make a play out of nothing.

Trouble is I think Rivers is gone and Brees stays in SD.

 

[TunaFan33]

Would Trent Dilfer or Kelly Holcomb done any better than Drew if they were signed instead?

 

[Jarv]

I ate my crow earlier this year. I was against Bledsoe coming here when we picked him up. His play in the 1st 7 games started me on my crow dish.

Now I ask, did I eat it too early ?

I was at the game yesterday, when Drew came out he gave me NO INSPIRATION at all with his play.

Now, lets look at this from an outsiders point of veiw. I was there with a couple of Giants fans. A couple from my riding gang, there son has season tickets. I also met a bunch of Giants fans who were actually rivals, but friendly (I guess I would be too if I met Giants fans at Dallas and we were kicking thier butt).

The word from all of the Giants fans I spoke with...Your team would be very scary with a good QB.

So, we have all taken positions on the QB matter and it has become very personal to all of us. Kinda like having our blinders on.

The knowledgeable fans whom I spoke with, who really have no stake or emotion about out team, feels like the QB position is what is holding us back...

Anyhow, just thought you might be interested in what OTHER people...Non Cowboys fans...Think.

By the way, frozze my butt off yesterday...lol

 

[DipChit]

The word from all of the Giants fans I spoke with...Your team would be very scary with a good QB.

So, we have all taken positions on the QB matter and it has become very personal to all of us. Kinda like having our blinders on.

The knowledgeable fans whom I spoke with, who really have no stake or emotion about out team, feels like the QB position is what is holding us back...

Anyhow, just thought you might be interested in what OTHER people...Non Cowboys fans...Think.

Well then they also must think that their front 4 is the best ever assembled too. Cause when you have a guy penetrating so fast *he* almost takes the handoff.. or when you rush just 3 guys and still are in the QB's face in under 3 seconds you must be pretty damn good if the o-line you're up against isnt thought to be hideous.

I mean surely the fact that we got 2 Tackles that have no business starting, Center play that is less than average, and a couple Guards that are getting long in the tooth wasnt lost on those fellas, right?

Certainly we could be better at the QB position.. duh. But to think that if we swapped him out for Eli's big bro all would suddenly be well.. I doubt it.

All our games would prolly just be like all the Colts vs Pats games leading up to this year. When Peyton somehow looked rather average for various reasons.