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Sarge said:
This is just flat out pathetic.....sorry.

On second thought, I'm not sorry........


:rolleyes:
I could care less if you think it's pathetic or not. The cowboys won't

win a Super Bowl with this Dufus, and Jerry has always been quick

on the trigger. :rolleyes:
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
Actually JERRY IMO is the one to point fingers at, if you want to point fingers.

He never had a decent player to groom behind Aikman, and since then he has went cheap seats on replacements for young QBs to take over down the road.
I think I need to put this in my sig line so that when I say stuff people will know I already realize this.

As I said in another thread.

I am not merely frustrated with QB THIS year. In my opinion we never should have been in a position to rely on retreads, reaches and gambles at QB.

We've had success with blue chip QBs. Stick with what works.

I still believe Henson is a blue chip QB and if Parcells cannot get the potential out of him then he should hang his head in shame.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
Henson is not the answer and nor is Romo.

We could have had the answer sitting behind Aikman but instead waited till aikman got hurt and then drafted QC..then we got Hutch, then Henson.

We have wasted time on trying to pay for a single and hoping to hit a home run.

Bill has and would play a Rookie QB if he felt they were worthy...people seem to forget that he started Bledsoe as a rook.

This all goes back to Jerry Jones no matter how you slice it.

we don't know either qb's skills yet because parcells won't let them play. he'll bring in any vet he knows like a security blanket and ignore *any one else* on the roster.

and if it all goes back to jjones, fine. he hired bp.
 

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Jerry literally STUCK Bill with Quincy and Hutch his first year.

Finally, what we suspected was finally revealed by Tuna himself a week or so ago: when he came in: he was asked to evaluate and develop those two kids.

Bill put an enormous effort into Carter, only to see it blow up in his face. At his age, time is a factor, and he had a whole team to build, not just a QB to groom.

But I hope Tuna isn't blinded to the fact that he can build a great D and eventually a great O and not leave this team without ensuring the most essential component is here.

Here and with enough experience to not set the team back year while he grows.

I still think Henson is that component, despite the so-called mechanics setback.

I know the last thing Bill will do is throw a kid under center when the oline is struggling so much - won't do it to the kid or the entire team.

But this offseason and next season, there should be some changes made...if the D is going to evolve enough to carry the O....and we are still going to fall short...then let it carry a developing QB while he finds himself.
 

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Hostile said:
I think I need to put this in my sig line so that when I say stuff people will know I already realize this.

As I said in another thread.

I am not merely frustrated with QB THIS year. In my opinion we never should have been in a position to rely on retreads, reaches and gambles at QB.

We've had success with blue chip QBs. Stick with what works.

I still believe Henson is a blue chip QB and if Parcells cannot get the potential out of him then he should hang his head in shame.


Parcells should hang his head in shame because he can not make Drew a starter worthy of being a starter?

Sorry I find that silly.

You know there is a VERY strong possibility that Henson is just not going to be a decent starter in this league no matter if Walsh was coaching him.
 

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Hostile said:
I think I need to put this in my sig line so that when I say stuff people will know I already realize this.

As I said in another thread.

I am not merely frustrated with QB THIS year. In my opinion we never should have been in a position to rely on retreads, reaches and gambles at QB.

We've had success with blue chip QBs. Stick with what works.

I still believe Henson is a blue chip QB and if Parcells cannot get the potential out of him then he should hang his head in shame.

What indication has Henson shown that says he's a blue chip QB. He looked lost last year against the bears and was afwul in preseason this year. And i like Henson alot, but i'm not blinded from the reality that he not ready to play.
 

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What do you want BP to do? First year here he had to win, and took us to the playoffs with QC. Last year we had an outside shot of making it to the playoffs until late in the season, and then what? Do you really want to just throw up the white flag and give up on the season of a QB who looked incompetent in the thanksgiving game? And this year? BP is here to win, not toil around all year with Henson or Romo, two guys who I doubt could start for the Texans let alone us. If they were good they would have been playing somewhere else.
 

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iceberg said:
we don't know either qb's skills yet because parcells won't let them play. he'll bring in any vet he knows like a security blanket and ignore *any one else* on the roster.

and if it all goes back to jjones, fine. he hired bp.


Yet he still started bledsoe as a rookie.

odd.

I think people have WAY TOO MUCH man love for both Romo or Henson.
 

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Hostile said:
You know Jimmy, this is what really irks me about Parcells ruin the QB BS.

Lovie Smith or Bill Parcells? Who has more skins on the wall? Who would you think could have a greater impact on a rookie's development?

Parcells, and a few posters, act like a QB can't be developed early. Yet every year that just isn't the case.

Now, I'm not saying Drew Henson has earned the job, but he certainly deserved a Head Coach who was at least willing to give him a shot last year when we had the opportunity.

He blew it. Period.
No doubt Hos. No doubt, but hey we couldn't give up on a 6-10 season.
 

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Hostile said:
I think I need to put this in my sig line so that when I say stuff people will know I already realize this.

As I said in another thread.

I am not merely frustrated with QB THIS year. In my opinion we never should have been in a position to rely on retreads, reaches and gambles at QB.

We've had success with blue chip QBs. Stick with what works.

I still believe Henson is a blue chip QB and if Parcells cannot get the potential out of him then he should hang his head in shame.

Im not going to argue about Henson being any thing. There just might not be any thing there to get all the potential out of. We have no clue, Parcells sees the kid every day. I never understand these statements.
What shows up at the college level doesnt always convert to the NFL level especialy after a five year hiatus.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
Parcells should hang his head in shame because he can not make Drew a starter worthy of being a starter?

Sorry I find that silly.

You know there is a VERY strong possibility that Henson is just not going to be a decent starter in this league no matter if Walsh was coaching him.
No, I said if he can't tap into a QBs' potential he should hang his head.

Until the kid actually has a chance to play I'll not assume that. I'm not into premature evaluation. I still have high hopes we can tap into what he has that wowed so many NFL scouts.
 

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rcaldw said:
I know what I express here isn't popular or PC for this board, but I'll say it anyway because it is true.

What I'm saying today I have said since last year. It has nothing to do with Bledsoe, it has to do WITH A PHILOSOPHY, and the current one disappoints me.

There, now maybe I'll feel better.

Love the post brother.. there are more here that agree with that than you think. You know, actual objective fans that hold a standard to what Cowboys football is supposed to be...Not blind unquestioning support of the coach.
 

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Hostile said:
No, I said if he can't tap into a QBs' potential he should hang his head.

Until the kid actually has a chance to play I'll not assume that. I'm not into premature evaluation. I still have high hopes we can tap into what he has that wowed so many NFL scouts.


He is tapped out.

I know you got man love for him and I don't say that in a mean way.

However the kid is tapped out IMO.

If he can not even make 2nd string over Romo...then he is not going to magically become good enough to become starter.

Many players have great skills in college, have all the measurables, have the look and so on....yet they just do not have it when it comes to being a starter in the NFL.

Henson will probably go to NFL Europe next offseason and then if he struggles there he will be gone ala hutch IMO.

We have wasted too much time on yard sale QBs to groom.
 

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Dave_in-NC said:
Im not going to argue about Henson being any thing. There just might not be any thing there to get all the potential out of. We have no clue, Parcells sees the kid every day. I never understand these statements.
What shows up at the college level doesnt always convert to the NFL level especialy after a five year hiatus.
Roger Staubach makes it worth taking a look and if Parcells had given him playing time last year it would be 3 years not 5.

Explain to me the logic of staying with Vinny last year.

Explain to me the logic of staying with Bledsoe in the Philly and Cardinals blowouts. You hate the very idea of Drew Henson? Fine, I could give a flying crap. Put in Romo.

Giving these kids no experience at all is mind boggling. He's too stubborn.
 

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Hostile said:
Roger Staubach makes it worth taking a look and if Parcells had given him playing time last year it would be 3 years not 5.

Explain to me the logic of staying with Vinny last year.

Explain to me the logic of staying with Bledsoe in the Philly and Cardinals blowouts. You hate the very idea of Drew Henson? Fine, I could give a flying crap. Put in Romo.

Giving these kids no experience at all is mind boggling. He's too stubborn.


I will say it again.

If it is just him being too stubborn..then why did he start Bledsoe as a rookie?

On second thought...to heck with that...I HATE QB threads about backups...so I pass (no pun intended) on further talk of backup qbs.
 

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DMX690 said:
What indication has Henson shown that says he's a blue chip QB. He looked lost last year against the bears and was afwul in preseason this year. And i like Henson alot, but i'm not blinded from the reality that he not ready to play.
Out of curisoty, how did Kyle Orton look in pre season this year?
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
Jerry literally STUCK Bill with Quincy and Hutch his first year.

Finally, what we suspected was finally revealed by Tuna himself a week or so ago: when he came in: he was asked to evaluate and develop those two kids.

Bill put an enormous effort into Carter, only to see it blow up in his face. At his age, time is a factor, and he had a whole team to build, not just a QB to groom.

But I hope Tuna isn't blinded to the fact that he can build a great D and eventually a great O and not leave this team without ensuring the most essential component is here.

Here and with enough experience to not set the team back year while he grows.

I still think Henson is that component, despite the so-called mechanics setback.

I know the last thing Bill will do is throw a kid under center when the oline is struggling so much - won't do it to the kid or the entire team.

But this offseason and next season, there should be some changes made...if the D is going to evolve enough to carry the O....and we are still going to fall short...then let it carry a developing QB while he finds himself.
Agree totally, Herms... But I'm curious, what makes you think Henson is still the one in Parcells' eyes?
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
I will say it again.

If it is just him being too stubborn..then why did he start Bledsoe as a rookie?

he was a lot younger and it in for the long haul, bp. now he seems to cut - push back anyone who may challenge his choice for a retread of the day qb.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
Yet he still started bledsoe as a rookie.

odd.

I think people have WAY TOO MUCH man love for both Romo or Henson.

Bledsoe was the first pick in the whole draft.

I would hope Parcells would give him a shot at some point with that team.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
Well...we can waste a few years on henson and be in the same or worse spot...I just don't think the kid has what it takes...I was hopeful at one time but that time has passed.

What we should have done was gotten a young QB in here instead of trying to play bargain basement shopper and hoping to hit a home run while paying for a single.

But hey that is one guys opinion.

Echo that

Of all the answers that could have been called today, I know Drew Henson wasnt one of them.
 
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