I'm convinced that Coach Prime is the best, last and only move for Head Coach under Jerry

[gimmesix]

Personally I'm intrigued by all of it, but also think it would be the riskiest hire you could possibly make. However, atleast it would bring some excitement back and trying something out of the box. Whatever we've been doing for 30 years hasn't worked anyway.

Jason Witten would be the riskiest hire. Just keeping it in perspective.

 

[VaqueroTD]

This fanbase claims to hate the way Jerry runs things, but they think just like him.

I think you’re missing the point. Most of us who support this move realize that there are very few coaching hires who will change the Jerry Business Model. Another coach who has no say on personnel moves, is dictated assistant coaches, answers to Jerry in the media, and so on…..The definition of insanity is doing the same and over and expecting different results.

 

[gimmesix]

Prime would be our best hope of someone who can get freedom from Jerry to make his own decisions. Prime has a bigger mouth piece.

Not sure it is something Jerry truly wants, but desperately needs.

I think Jerry gives his coaches some room to make their own decisions, but he also gives them a limit on what they can spend. For example, we brought in Erik Kendricks last year because he was a player that Zimmer wanted and the price was right. Quinn wanted Bobby Wagner, but we did not bring him in because the price wasn't right. I don't expect that to change under any coach. Same with the draft. I think it's just issues with Jerry being GM that makes fans believe that the head coach has no say in who we pick. Jerry ultimately makes the decision, but that role is based around what his personnel people and his coaches say. It's kind of like the Taco Charlton pick. Charlton was seen as a better fit for his scheme by Marinelli than TJ Watt was. A different coach and maybe we go with Watt there.

 

[MyFairLady]

Deon as the CEO. Baby Deon as the QB. Let him bring in some guys to coordinate the offense and defense. Purge the old turds. Fill the team with young guys anyone hungry for a pay day. This thing could pop off for sure.

Sadly we love our old turds and pay them like super bowl champs. We are stuck with a lead weight at QB. Jerry will always be the true CEO. This thing is hopeless.

 

[KMY_Amber]

With the right DC in the room, Kellen can be successful. Possibly even uber-successful. I believe that.

Kellen is destined for mediocrity as a HC, no way he's taking a Cowboys team to a Superbowl. To me, that's just a wasted choice.

 

[MyFairLady]

Kellen is destined for mediocrity as a HC, no way he's taking a Cowboys team to a Superbowl. To me, that's just a wasted choice.

He would be fine if you had a true overlord for a QB. No locker room will respect Moore unless the QB is setting the supreme example and demanding the team follows. We need to find out next Troy. The next Manning, Brady, Mahomes, etc.

 

[Chasing6]

I think Jerry gives his coaches some room to make their own decisions, but he also gives them a limit on what they can spend. For example, we brought in Erik Kendricks last year because he was a player that Zimmer wanted and the price was right. Quinn wanted Bobby Wagner, but we did not bring him in because the price wasn't right. I don't expect that to change under any coach. Same with the draft. I think it's just issues with Jerry being GM that makes fans believe that the head coach has no say in who we pick. Jerry ultimately makes the decision, but that role is based around what his personnel people and his coaches say. It's kind of like the Taco Charlton pick. Charlton was seen as a better fit for his scheme by Marinelli than TJ Watt was. A different coach and maybe we go with Watt there.

You think a $3M signing is giving his coaches room?

Sure, I agree. Jerry would allow all of his coaches to sign any and all all Pro Bowl FA's, as long as it is below $5M.

 

[BigD_95]

I would have LMAO @ this idea not too long ago but the more I watch and read, the more I’m convinced this is the ONLY last move for Jethro.

• Jerry is in awe of Deion like he was with Parcells.
• All of Deion’s colleagues report that he is the Alpha in all operations he runs. This may be the last man that can control the ship Jerry built. AND he can out hype the hype master. He would know how to give Jerry what he wants and still be looked at by the players as the final authority.
• He’s a former player. A lot of new HC from Detroit to Houston who prove the value of Ex-Player Head Coaches who can relate better with the players.
• For those saying he doesn’t watch enough film or X and O, NFL HCs are more the CEO than a coach in the NFL these days. Something that McCarthy was not good at. Jimmy knew how to push the buttons and so does Deion.
• Zimmer is Deion’s boy and would come back and be loyal to Deion. He worked with Prime at Jackson State and Colorado, and has a close relationship going back to Deion’s playing days. No more Garrett forced on Wade, or Kellen Moore forced on McCarthy. Deion would actually want Zimm as his DC.
• Deion is no nonsense despite what you might think from his commercial days. Anyone who watched him at Colorado knows he is a hard*** who will bring a tight grip and not be afraid to call out players who aren’t cutting it. His first day at Colorado he told half his players they wouldn’t cut it.
• Who knows, we may very well get some shenanigans with the draft and Hunter and Shadeur not playing for anyone but their lifelong Coach.
• Stephen can’t recruit in free agency worth a darn. With Deion we now have someone who can convince players to sign AND convince Jethro to spend the cash in free agency.
• Deion is ready. NFL player for several franchises. HS to small college to big time college. This is not like Witten or some of the crazy out there choices. Deion has proven at every level he can turn ships around.
• Go watch last year’s Sounds From the Sidelines when Deion and Shadeur met with Jerry in the pre-game. There is a tight bond there. They even muted the camera while they talked. These guys were already talking business. They have a bond that no coach has had with Jerry since his former college roommate Jimmy was here.
• Deion is fresh off the college circuit and has a team of scouts and analysts who are probably more knowledgeable of recent college players than our current crew.
• Deion has proven he can handle the spotlight that the Dallas HC position receives. He will pushback and manipulate the media just like Parcells and Jimmy did.

It could crash and burn, but I don’t really see any other option at this point until Jethro croaks. The franchise is what it is and needs someone who can outshine, outhype and out-alpha Jethro. Coach Prime is your man.

I'm actually in agreement. I want Deion more than anyone else. I read a lot of him being an old school coach - holding everyone accountable. The guy is a winner. Demands it from himself & others.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I think you’re missing the point. Most of us who support this move realize that there are very few coaching hires who will change the Jerry Business Model. Another coach who has no say on personnel moves, is dictated assistant coaches, answers to Jerry in the media, and so on…..The definition of insanity is doing the same and over and expecting different results.

Deion IS the Jerry business model.

Deion is about Deion just like Jerry is about Jerry.

Deion is the Jerry Jones of coaches all the way down to wanting it to be a family business.

 

[Chasing6]

I'm actually in agreement. I want Deion more than anyone else. I read a lot of him being an old school coach - holding everyone accountable. The guy is a winner. Demands it from himself & others.

He would need to hold Jerry accountable and he most likely is the only one who could do it, which is our biggest problem. Without fixing that, the rest does not really matter.

If he can fix Jerry, have a solid coaching staff, and just let them coach we would be better off as a team.

 

[_sturt_]

Kellen is destined for mediocrity as a HC, no way he's taking a Cowboys team to a Superbowl. To me, that's just a wasted choice.

I see no evidence to affirm he's taking a Cowboys team to a Super Bowl with any certainty.

I also see no evidence to affirm he's destined for mediocrity.

I see a guy who has gained wide regard for his OC performance.

I see a guy who is young and rather bland personality-wise, but this isn't a league any more where young and rather bland personality has proven to be that compellingly negative any more. His dad was a coach, and so it's not a stretch to think KM has paid attention over the decades to his dad's experiences... that he has a good instincts.

So. I come back to this. If you give him the right DC, I think there's as good a chance that KM is successful as any other options supposedly on the table.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

I think you’re missing the point. Most of us who support this move realize that there are very few coaching hires who will change the Jerry Business Model. Another coach who has no say on personnel moves, is dictated assistant coaches, answers to Jerry in the media, and so on…..The definition of insanity is doing the same and over and expecting different results.

Bingo.

 

[GMO415]

I would have LMAO @ this idea not too long ago but the more I watch and read, the more I’m convinced this is the ONLY last move for Jethro.

• Jerry is in awe of Deion like he was with Parcells.
• All of Deion’s colleagues report that he is the Alpha in all operations he runs. This may be the last man that can control the ship Jerry built. AND he can out hype the hype master. He would know how to give Jerry what he wants and still be looked at by the players as the final authority.
• He’s a former player. A lot of new HC from Detroit to Houston who prove the value of Ex-Player Head Coaches who can relate better with the players.
• For those saying he doesn’t watch enough film or X and O, NFL HCs are more the CEO than a coach in the NFL these days. Something that McCarthy was not good at. Jimmy knew how to push the buttons and so does Deion.
• Zimmer is Deion’s boy and would come back and be loyal to Deion. He worked with Prime at Jackson State and Colorado, and has a close relationship going back to Deion’s playing days. No more Garrett forced on Wade, or Kellen Moore forced on McCarthy. Deion would actually want Zimm as his DC.
• Deion is no nonsense despite what you might think from his commercial days. Anyone who watched him at Colorado knows he is a hard*** who will bring a tight grip and not be afraid to call out players who aren’t cutting it. His first day at Colorado he told half his players they wouldn’t cut it.
• Who knows, we may very well get some shenanigans with the draft and Hunter and Shadeur not playing for anyone but their lifelong Coach.
• Stephen can’t recruit in free agency worth a darn. With Deion we now have someone who can convince players to sign AND convince Jethro to spend the cash in free agency.
• Deion is ready. NFL player for several franchises. HS to small college to big time college. This is not like Witten or some of the crazy out there choices. Deion has proven at every level he can turn ships around.
• Go watch last year’s Sounds From the Sidelines when Deion and Shadeur met with Jerry in the pre-game. There is a tight bond there. They even muted the camera while they talked. These guys were already talking business. They have a bond that no coach has had with Jerry since his former college roommate Jimmy was here.
• Deion is fresh off the college circuit and has a team of scouts and analysts who are probably more knowledgeable of recent college players than our current crew.
• Deion has proven he can handle the spotlight that the Dallas HC position receives. He will pushback and manipulate the media just like Parcells and Jimmy did.

It could crash and burn, but I don’t really see any other option at this point until Jethro croaks. The franchise is what it is and needs someone who can outshine, outhype and out-alpha Jethro. Coach Prime is your man.

All good except:

• Stephen can’t recruit in free agency worth a darn. With Deion we now have someone who can convince players to sign AND convince Jethro to spend the cash in free agency.

Grown arse men who are free agents turn down the volume and use their eyes to see the dollar amount.

 

[Chasing6]

Kellen is destined for mediocrity as a HC, no way he's taking a Cowboys team to a Superbowl. To me, that's just a wasted choice.

However, that choice meets Jerry's requirements.

1. Easy to control
2. Most likely the cheapest one to hire.
3. Already has a relationship with Dak.
4. Easy offensive transition.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

The guy is a winner.

Barely. His FBS (Div.1) record is 13-12.

 

[Blue&Silver]

I would have LMAO @ this idea not too long ago but the more I watch and read, the more I’m convinced this is the ONLY last move for Jethro.

• Jerry is in awe of Deion like he was with Parcells.
• All of Deion’s colleagues report that he is the Alpha in all operations he runs. This may be the last man that can control the ship Jerry built. AND he can out hype the hype master. He would know how to give Jerry what he wants and still be looked at by the players as the final authority.
• He’s a former player. A lot of new HC from Detroit to Houston who prove the value of Ex-Player Head Coaches who can relate better with the players.
• For those saying he doesn’t watch enough film or X and O, NFL HCs are more the CEO than a coach in the NFL these days. Something that McCarthy was not good at. Jimmy knew how to push the buttons and so does Deion.
• Zimmer is Deion’s boy and would come back and be loyal to Deion. He worked with Prime at Jackson State and Colorado, and has a close relationship going back to Deion’s playing days. No more Garrett forced on Wade, or Kellen Moore forced on McCarthy. Deion would actually want Zimm as his DC.
• Deion is no nonsense despite what you might think from his commercial days. Anyone who watched him at Colorado knows he is a hard*** who will bring a tight grip and not be afraid to call out players who aren’t cutting it. His first day at Colorado he told half his players they wouldn’t cut it.
• Who knows, we may very well get some shenanigans with the draft and Hunter and Shadeur not playing for anyone but their lifelong Coach.
• Stephen can’t recruit in free agency worth a darn. With Deion we now have someone who can convince players to sign AND convince Jethro to spend the cash in free agency.
• Deion is ready. NFL player for several franchises. HS to small college to big time college. This is not like Witten or some of the crazy out there choices. Deion has proven at every level he can turn ships around.
• Go watch last year’s Sounds From the Sidelines when Deion and Shadeur met with Jerry in the pre-game. There is a tight bond there. They even muted the camera while they talked. These guys were already talking business. They have a bond that no coach has had with Jerry since his former college roommate Jimmy was here.
• Deion is fresh off the college circuit and has a team of scouts and analysts who are probably more knowledgeable of recent college players than our current crew.
• Deion has proven he can handle the spotlight that the Dallas HC position receives. He will pushback and manipulate the media just like Parcells and Jimmy did.

It could crash and burn, but I don’t really see any other option at this point until Jethro croaks. The franchise is what it is and needs someone who can outshine, outhype and out-alpha Jethro. Coach Prime is your man.

It just adds to the slideshow. Nothing surprises me anymore.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

The problem Jerry is going to have with hiring coach prime is Jerry is going to have to pay big money for his coordinators and assistant coaches on top of the money he will spend on Deion to get him here. It will get the Cowboys much attention, more fans, and plenty of prime time games so it will be worth it. I just don’t see Jerry giving up the spotlight for too long.

#1 requirement of being a good head coach:

Endless drive to win

Deion has that. And, you cant teach it.

 

[KMY_Amber]

He would be fine if you had a true overlord for a QB. No locker room will respect Moore unless the QB is setting the supreme example and demanding the team follows. We need to find out next Troy. The next Manning, Brady, Mahomes, etc.

OK, well, the Cowboys may not have that. So KM is not a good fit. And I really don't want him back calling plays either.

The Eagles offensive success is based on a superior o-line and running game. I think you or I could call plays for the Eagles and find success.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Colorado was decent because Deions name alone brought kids in. The thing that made Deion successful in college (recruiting), which is what 90% of college sports is about, is about 5% of what the NFL is about.

Now take that 5% and make it 1% with Jerry as the owner and not willing to sign free agents or trade for them and the #1 thing Deion is supposedly good at is now pointless. Because the final say on who comes to Dallas is Jerry Jones.

The NFL is about drafting, developing, scheming, having the right minds around you, culture building, and accountability.

Deion hasn’t shown to be good at any of those things.

This will be a disaster, but at least it will be entertaining.

Deion never struck me as being intelligent or hard working but he's certainly got the notoriety and "standing" to be a walk-around coach and leader in the Cowboy circus. We would have to have some high quality coordinators and positional coaches for the actual coaching though... which is a problem... most quality coordinators are temporary solutions angling for head coaching positions. Then there's the problem at GM,,,

 

[cowboyec]

i'd put aaron glenn in there with him.
i think both could succeed here...despite the f/o.
they both would have the locker room...day 1.