I'm getting crucified over Phillips...

[Chrissyboy]

Yeah, we do... we know Jerry wanted to keep Bill, and was about 98 per cent certain that the ol' coach would stick around for another year...

My oh my!

This could go on for hours. You probably still wouldn't understand the points made!

I'm afraid that FACTS are not always leaked to the media. I'm also afraid that for very good PR reasons, Jerry and Bill are VERY unlikely to tell the whole truth on what was discussed!!

Your stubborn belief that what we have been told ARE the facts is what lets you down. Myopia may allow you to believe you have answers where in truth you don't understand the question.

Having looked at a few of your posts. Your arguments seem to follow this familiar path. Arguing as strongly as you can when not ACTUALLY being armed with the facts at all.

You appear to have this desire to create teams! I do not know nor have I become familiar with the said posters. I'll take this opportunity to say hello to them. I'm glad they felt the same way that I did! You've obviously grown accustomed to offending people (your vitriolic, self proclamation) then having your buddies crowd around you to pat you on the back!!!! What do these actions remind me of?

Taken from dictionary.com:

bul·ly
–noun 1. a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people.

While there I stumbled across another definition:

class
–noun 14. Informal. elegance, grace, or dignity, as in dress and behavior.

Suggested reading for the cure of myopia!

Have fun disecting each line.

 

[VA Cowboy]

You were asked which GM which includes hiring coaches, the WHOLE THREAD was about hiring coaches you never once mentioned draft LMAO

Man you spin so much people should call you Maytag

Just admit you're lost and move on.

 

[ZeroClub]

That's cool looking. What is it and what does it do?

It is a perpetual motion machine.

It keeps going and going and going ....

 

[zrinkill]

Get over it! The bottom line is the staff is coming together no matter who makes the decision and we are going to the Super Bowel regardless of whoever you think had the mic to make the decision on the hire.

Thats what I like to see ........ !!!!!

And sjordan I personally just enjoy arguing with the haters ..... I do not take it personally its just keeps me on my toes while I am doing my boring office work ......

 

[BigDFan5]

Just admit you're lost and move on.

Still waiting on you to show me you were talking only about drafting ability in the thread we were discussing coaching hires


go ahead find it and get back to me until then you are continuing to make things up

 

[VA Cowboy]

Still waiting on you to show me you were talking only about drafting ability in the thread we were discussing coaching hires


go ahead find it and get back to me until then you are continuing to make things up

If Jerry is such an idiot GM, it should be easy to name 10-15 GMs who have done a better job than Jerry. I'll bet you can't name 5 better GMs.

That was the question.

If you can't figure out the criteria to judge a GM by, then I can't help you.

But, please...by all means continue this another 10 pages....

 

[Hostile]

It is a perpetual motion machine.

It keeps going and going and going ....

Hilarious.

 

[BigDFan5]

If Jerry is such an idiot GM, it should be easy to name 10-15 GMs who have done a better job than Jerry. I'll bet you can't name 5 better GMs.

That was the question.

If you can't figure out the criteria to judge a GM by, then I can't help you.

But, please...by all means continue this another 10 pages....

Hey you are the one that named him as one of your top 10 GMs and then when it is shown that he is "meddling" and hiring assistants for his coach and not allowing the coach any control at all you changed your story

He went from top 10 GM to someonme you named only because of his draft abilities even though you never mentioned his draft abilities :laugh2:

 

[iceberg]

For shear entertainment value in the off season, you guys are the best. Just a couple of thoughts. First, lets assume that Jerry sat down with Wade and inquired about Dat as a LB or assistant LB coach. Why in the world would Wade, as a master of the 3-4, want an undersized LB who played the 4-3 his whole carreer to come in and coach a defense that he never played in? Reading Wade's own comments, his many years (was it 30) of coaching has givin him numerous contacts within the profession. Are we to believe that, instead of tapping into those contacts, the best Wade could do is hire Dat, a retired 4-3 LB whom he's never coached (as far as I know). Come on guys, lets not throw common sense out the window.

Second, our 3-4 LB'ers faultered down the stretch, in December, when it counted the most (see Bradie James). So how does Wade attempt to solve this problem? He hires a 4-3 LB to coach his more agressive scheme to a group of players that, by their own addmission, seemed lost at times. Doesn't make any sense again.

Lastly, Norv didn't make any "demands". Galloway said as much and he probably has Norv in his speed dial. But what Galloway said that he could have only gotten from speaking with Norv is that Jerry never called Norv again after a Saturday (?) night discussion. It was apparent that Norv had a vision for this team that didn't mirror Jerry's and Norv found the balls to say it, much to his credit. Was it Garrett calling or not calling plays, was it TO, was it switching back to a 4-3 or was it something else? We may never know. But it was obvious that the potential HC wanted to go in another direction. It might not have been a "demand", but lets not play with semantics. I was never sold on Norv anyway and, between the two, Wade was the better pick, IMHO.

except this seems logical and based on good solid facts that are hard to refute. no i don't know and won't pretend to know the logic behind those closed doors or what conversations were had.

but this is where we're different. VA will swear up and down jones did it yet he doesn't have any proof either.

but - regardless, good points on the 3-4 4-3 linebackers scheme, something to consider.

 

[iceberg]

It can't be any clearer. Do I personally have to read it aloud to you?

any reason you can't type yes/no but must answer the question with a question?

is jones keeping bowles and sprano bad?

can you prove phillips had no input in their retention?

just a couple of easy questions that answering them directly would wrap this up. all the jukes and ducks and weaves is what keeps this going further into stupidity.

 

[Chrissyboy]

I have to say guys; full props for energy, stamina and conviction.

I would now consider it time for all to walk away having taken their part in a thread which has covered preactically 15 pages had over 1500 viewings and...

...accomplished nothing!

Nice sparring to lift an otherwise dull February day....er wait is it Valentine's day? Somebody else other than myself is also set for trouble!!!

No wonder Superpunk spotted the sexual tension!!